Is Windows 7b stable enough for normal usage
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mattbiernat
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Is Windows 7b stable enough for normal usage
Is Windows 7b stable enough for normal usage, that is internet browsing, watching movies, word processing? All those praises on how fast it is makes me want to switch OS but I don't want something that will keep on poping BSOD on me.
note to moderator: im sorry, i did not realize that i have posted this in Vista forum. plz move this into appropriate locations. thank you.
mod edit: Changed the references of Vista 7b to Windows 7b.
note to moderator: im sorry, i did not realize that i have posted this in Vista forum. plz move this into appropriate locations. thank you.
mod edit: Changed the references of Vista 7b to Windows 7b.
Last edited by mattbiernat on Thu Jan 15, 2009 5:24 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Re: Is Vista 7b stable enough for normal usage
Have a look at this blog http://windowsteamblog.com/blogs/window ... -beta.aspx which contains
andAlso, another important thing to keep in mind is that the Windows 7 Beta will expire on August 1st, 2009.
MS products are hardly usable when they GA, so what do you expect of a beta?The Windows 7 Beta is targeted toward the enthusiast crowd – people excited and knowledgeable with technology. If you don’t quite understand much of what I’ve written above, it is probably best you don’t try to install the Windows 7 Beta.
Re: Is Vista 7b stable enough for normal usage
WMP on Windows 7 still seems to have some problems (i.e. corrupting files). IE8 seems to have security vulnerabilities (and probably other bugs as well). Office 2007 may work well though, haven´t tried it yet.
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Re: Is Vista 7b stable enough for normal usage
Short answer...if you know how to clean install Windows, then yes, it's very stable for regular day-to-day use. I've been running a clean install of Windows 7 on my X301 for over a week now and haven't had any BSOD or program crashes. However, initially I did try upgrading from an existing Windows Vista installation and that didn't work very well. Lots of crashes and glitches. Also, keep in mind that most of the Lenovo Thinkvantage utilities don't work with Windows 7.
Thinkpad X200s w/ Ultrabase
C2D SL9600 / 8GB / 160GB X25-M G2 / BD MULTI / 12.1" WXGA / INTEL 4500MHD / INTEL 5150 / BT / AT&T WWAN / W7
C2D SL9600 / 8GB / 160GB X25-M G2 / BD MULTI / 12.1" WXGA / INTEL 4500MHD / INTEL 5150 / BT / AT&T WWAN / W7
Re: Is Vista 7b stable enough for normal usage
the more you install the more unstable the system gets for me.... but running only a fe select apps seems to do the trick for me.... and I'me using it for work..... although I do backup 2 or 3 times daily.
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mattbiernat
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Re: Is Vista 7b stable enough for normal usage
on my x300 i mainly use the following applications:
1. WMP11
2. Office2007
3. Opera
will i encounter any problems? i know somebody reported problems with WMP12 so i will just skip it.
oh and i don't use anything thinkvantage except for hibernate shortcuts and easy eject. but i can live without those.
update okay what the hell. i have recovery cds for vista, i am downloading 7b and I will see if it works for me or not.
1. WMP11
2. Office2007
3. Opera
will i encounter any problems? i know somebody reported problems with WMP12 so i will just skip it.
oh and i don't use anything thinkvantage except for hibernate shortcuts and easy eject. but i can live without those.
update okay what the hell. i have recovery cds for vista, i am downloading 7b and I will see if it works for me or not.
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sportfreak
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Re: Is Vista 7b stable enough for normal usage
hmmm well i have installed it few days ago, and i had absolutely no problems with it whatsoever and i had office 2003 and many other everyday apps installed in it, and trust me it runs very nicely and fast too..
and i am planning to install ubuntu in the dual boot mode so that i can see how it is in everyday use..no BSOD at all as of now..dint needed to download any separate drivers for my thinkpad, except for the fingerprint reader..will let let u know if anything comes up..
until then, keep ur spirits high and let the ball rolling!!!

and i am planning to install ubuntu in the dual boot mode so that i can see how it is in everyday use..no BSOD at all as of now..dint needed to download any separate drivers for my thinkpad, except for the fingerprint reader..will let let u know if anything comes up..
until then, keep ur spirits high and let the ball rolling!!!
Thinkpad X61
Intel T8100, 6GB RAM, Ubuntu 11.04, 16GB SSD, X6 Ultra-base ( hell yeh .. )
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Thinkpad R40 - RIP
Intel T8100, 6GB RAM, Ubuntu 11.04, 16GB SSD, X6 Ultra-base ( hell yeh .. )
Thinkpad R500
Intel T6750, 4GB RAM, 80GB 7200rpm, Win 7 Professional.
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Not getting any younger thinkpads:
Thinkpad R40 - RIP
Re: Is Vista 7b stable enough for normal usage
Runs great for me for office 2007 and internet browsing. Very fast and stable.
32 bit version.
32 bit version.
x61t 1.6 4g Ram Travelstar 7k200 Windows 7 31.9 + .1 bit
T40 2.0 dotham 2g ram 2915a/b/g
T40 2.0 dotham 2g ram 2915a/b/g
Re: Is Vista 7b stable enough for normal usage
From my experience so far, I would say yes - BUT REMEMBER W7b expires August 1st, 2009. That is a big reason not to make this your only OS - unless you store everything on a network or external hard drive.
DKB
Re: Is Vista 7b stable enough for normal usage
...or unless you hack that beautyGomJabbar wrote:From my experience so far, I would say yes - BUT REMEMBER W7b expires August 1st, 2009. That is a big reason not to make this your only OS - unless you store everything on a network or external hard drive.
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Re: Is Vista 7b stable enough for normal usage
We don't discuss that sort of thing here.Marin85 wrote:...or unless you hack that beauty...
DKB
Re: Is Vista 7b stable enough for normal usage
Nor do I, it must have slipped out somehowGomJabbar wrote: We don't discuss that sort of thing here.
EDIT: I meant Gates (like StarGate(s) or WaterGate(s)), didn´t realize we also have a few Bills...
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Re: Is Vista 7b stable enough for normal usage
Can't you just reinstall it on 7/31/09?
x61t 1.6 4g Ram Travelstar 7k200 Windows 7 31.9 + .1 bit
T40 2.0 dotham 2g ram 2915a/b/g
T40 2.0 dotham 2g ram 2915a/b/g
Re: Is Vista 7b stable enough for normal usage
I believe not if you (have) use(d) the key provided by M$ after starting the download. However, you could try reinstalling it every month, so there will be no need to enter any key. I don´t know if the public made betas have some sort of built-in clock to keep with the end datebigwormie wrote:Can't you just reinstall it on 7/31/09?
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Re: Is Vista 7b stable enough for normal usage
Yes, but wouldn't you only be able to use it for one day as it expires on Aug. 1?bigwormie wrote:Can't you just reinstall it on 7/31/09?
Re: Is Vista 7b stable enough for normal usage
I am quite sure regardless of when it is installed, it will not run after August 1st, 2009.
Microsoft wrote: The Windows 7 Beta will stop working on August 1, 2009.
To continue using your PC, please be prepared to reinstall a prior version of Windows or a subsequent release of Windows 7 before the expiration date. See Installing the Windows 7 Beta.
DKB
Re: Is Vista 7b stable enough for normal usage
Even if you have never entered the provided key 
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Re: Is Vista 7b stable enough for normal usage
Probably not (the computer clock would probably be checked), but I cannot say so categorically. Yet, what would be the point? Reinstall every month? No thanks.
Perhaps the only way would be to set your computer clock back some months. Even that likely wouldn't work as Window 7 would probably update the time and date over the internet!
Perhaps the only way would be to set your computer clock back some months. Even that likely wouldn't work as Window 7 would probably update the time and date over the internet!
DKB
Re: Is Vista 7b stable enough for normal usage
Hm, yes, I now remember, that was the case with Vista betas as well. I don´t believe M$ will do differently this time.
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Re: Is Vista 7b stable enough for normal usage
I did a clean install on my T40p and have had the occasional lockup. IE 8 isn't ready for primetime
yet, but firefox 3 seems to be ok. Not too bad for a beta, but I wouldn't depend on it as my
primary OS. Looks promising, we'll see what the RTM build brings.
yet, but firefox 3 seems to be ok. Not too bad for a beta, but I wouldn't depend on it as my
primary OS. Looks promising, we'll see what the RTM build brings.
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CoffeeBeans
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Re: Is Vista 7b stable enough for normal usage
Mine is running very well, have installed Avira AV, Comodo FW, OO3, FF3, VLC and Ccleaner onto it and they've all been running faultlessly 
Re: Is Vista 7b stable enough for normal usage
I have run it for a few weeks on my T42 (1GB RAM, stock 60GB HDD). I used it quite extensively last week at home with Office 2K7 (mainly Excel and Word), FF3, and Google Chrome. Opened a lot of windows in everything and it seemed to run better, faster, and more stably than the default install of XP! I can say that because before running Win7 I did a fresh recovery of XP from the recovery partition on the HDD (which is still there for when 2nd August 2009 rolls around).
Highly recommended.
Highly recommended.
Re: Is Vista 7b stable enough for normal usage
It's my sole OS on my T23, not bad for an 8 year old computer. Installation is easier than XP due to more drivers being detected. I'm not a power user but everyday operation is near as quick as XP.
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neenee
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Re: Is Windows 7b stable enough for normal usage
I have had no crashes or lockups since I installed Windows 7 beta on my desktop and laptop several weeks ago.
I come from Vista and thus far my experiences have been nothing other than positive.
I come from Vista and thus far my experiences have been nothing other than positive.
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mattbiernat
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Re: Is Windows 7b stable enough for normal usage
okay i did not anticipate so many responses in this thread. i have already installed 7 and it works much better for me than Vista but not quite the same as XP. I still keep my XP on T60, just because getting work done on XP seems so much easier.
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Re: Is Windows 7b stable enough for normal usage
I'm hearing great things about Windows 7. I downgraded my T61 To XP Pro because Vista Business seemed too bloated, although it looked nice, but XP Pro is much quicker. Hopefully Microsoft will offer a good upgrade deal.
T61 6459-CTO, T8100 Intel Core 2 Duo @ 2.10 GHz, 4GB Ram, 320 GB Seagate HD
XP Pro SP3 (downgraded from Vista Business)
Thinking of upgrading to Windows 7, not sure yet.
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T23
T60 2623-D9U T2300
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Thinking of upgrading to Windows 7, not sure yet.
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agarza
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Re: Is Windows 7b stable enough for normal usage
I was tired of XP. It began using the CPU a mysterious process eating 40% of the CPU which caused the fan to run more often. I installed on the same partition as XP, I'm now unable to access XP because of a corrupted file but I'm quite pleased with the performance. Only hiccup is I can't get to work the OSD and neither TPFancontrol as it behaved on XP.
I'm now waiting for my WD Scorpio Black 320GB and today just upgraded the ram to 4GB so I guess this year I'm finally transitioning from XP to 7 (I haven't really used vista a lot, I wiped it 2 days after I received my T61 with Home Premium on it, the thing couldn't let me do anything with just 1 GB of RAM)
I'm now waiting for my WD Scorpio Black 320GB and today just upgraded the ram to 4GB so I guess this year I'm finally transitioning from XP to 7 (I haven't really used vista a lot, I wiped it 2 days after I received my T61 with Home Premium on it, the thing couldn't let me do anything with just 1 GB of RAM)
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Re: Is Windows 7b stable enough for normal usage
After month working great:
W7 on t60p 200gb HD, 3GB RAM, photoshop elements 6, lightroom 2, cubase, dreamweaver cs4, firefox 3, thunderbird 2. Is more stable than my old vista.
W7 on t60p 200gb HD, 3GB RAM, photoshop elements 6, lightroom 2, cubase, dreamweaver cs4, firefox 3, thunderbird 2. Is more stable than my old vista.
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mattbiernat
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Re: Is Windows 7b stable enough for normal usage
i found the hibernation to be more stable in 7 than in Vista. faster too.
Re: Is Windows 7b stable enough for normal usage
I used Windows 7 x64 from January on my T61p until I got a new unit this week. On the T61p, I was able to get most of the ThinkVantage software (didn't try the CSS or Rescue and Recovery) and all the devices except for the fingerprint reader and three unidentifiable "base system devices" to work. Finding device drivers that worked for a couple of the devices turned out to take a lot of web crawling.
With any beta OS the mantra is "don't use on a production system" and "use at your own risk." I used this one on a production system and feel that my risk was much less than with any previous Windows beta. I hedged my risk by doing all this on a separate hard drive that I swapped for the original one with the Vista preload; I retained the original hard drive and robocopied %userprofile% very frequently in case something went wrong.
All of the software that I purchased in the last 1-1/2 years worked, and most of the older applications worked as well.
I expect Windows 7 to be a big improvement over Vista.
With any beta OS the mantra is "don't use on a production system" and "use at your own risk." I used this one on a production system and feel that my risk was much less than with any previous Windows beta. I hedged my risk by doing all this on a separate hard drive that I swapped for the original one with the Vista preload; I retained the original hard drive and robocopied %userprofile% very frequently in case something went wrong.
All of the software that I purchased in the last 1-1/2 years worked, and most of the older applications worked as well.
I expect Windows 7 to be a big improvement over Vista.
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Since 1993, TP 720, 760, 760 CD, 770, A22p, T22, X23 (still fully functional), T40p, T42p, T43 (this and subsequent systems all still in use), T60p, X60T, T61p, X61T, T500 (switchable graphics), X201T, X220
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