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Windows 7 on T43p

#1 Post by Quicklite » Fri Feb 06, 2009 6:43 am

Finally installed Windows 7 on my T43p, I was rather disappointed by Vista which I installed yeaterday, but Windows 7 does seem impressive sofar.

Booting up is now noticible faster than on Vista; generally feels more smooth, and there is no BSOD at all; however, unlike windows vista, not everything works directly after install:


USB now works at USB full speed :( , when I installed vista, it was working at HI-speed, without any drivers. :?

The sound driver download from windows 7 update failed to work, while there is only XP driver from IBM, which also does not work. :(

Fingerprint app from IBM initially said it did not see the hardware, when I tried vista compatibility mode, it just crashed. I'm now trying to use the UPEK driver. Edit, this now works. :mrgreen:

For any other T4x users, here is the link:
http://www.upek.com/support/downloads/w ... rtypes.asp




However, on the plus side, the stability of graphic drivers are now much better, where as in vista, I had trouble changing the frequency at all, I now can overclock more than I was able to on XP, via Ati tool.
T41: 1.6Ghz/0.7GB,XGA 14.1,Ati 7500 Mobility,40GB, DVD-ROM(Sold)
T43p: 2.13Ghz, 2GB, SXGA 14.1,ATi V3200 FireGL,80GB, DVD-ROM(Sold)
M1730:2.50Ghz, 4GB, WUXGA 17, NV 9800m GT Sli,400GB, BR-RW (Sold)
T400 :2.26Ghz, 2GB, WXGA+14.1, Intel 4500 GMA, 160GB, DVD-ROM (Sold)

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Re: Windows 7 on T43p

#2 Post by Marin85 » Fri Feb 06, 2009 6:53 am

Quicklite wrote:However, on the plus side, the stability of graphic drivers are now much better, where as in vista, I had trouble changing the frequency at all, I now can overclock more than I was able to on XP, via Ati tool.
How did you manage that? According to techpowerup ATItool works only on Windows 2000/XP/2003 (including x64). It doesn´t work for me on Vista, so I don´t expect it to work for me on Win 7.
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Re: Windows 7 on T43p

#3 Post by Quicklite » Fri Feb 06, 2009 7:05 am

In the beta version, they do support it; however, in older, stable version, I don't think it does. ATitool 0.27 beta 1 introduced support for vista, since most drivers for vista works on windows 7, I don't see a problem. 0.27 Beta 4 is the latest I think.

Here, vista is listed as supported, meaning it ought to work with 7 without issues.

http://www.download3k.com/System-Utilit ... ITool.html
T41: 1.6Ghz/0.7GB,XGA 14.1,Ati 7500 Mobility,40GB, DVD-ROM(Sold)
T43p: 2.13Ghz, 2GB, SXGA 14.1,ATi V3200 FireGL,80GB, DVD-ROM(Sold)
M1730:2.50Ghz, 4GB, WUXGA 17, NV 9800m GT Sli,400GB, BR-RW (Sold)
T400 :2.26Ghz, 2GB, WXGA+14.1, Intel 4500 GMA, 160GB, DVD-ROM (Sold)

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Re: Windows 7 on T43p

#4 Post by Quicklite » Fri Feb 06, 2009 7:24 am

Here, You'll see what I mean.
V3200 ships at:

Core:400Mhz
Mem:250Mhz

In Xp, V3200 maxes out at about:
Core:500 Mhz
Mem:300 Mhz

In Vista,
Core:435 Mhz
Core:270 Mhz

In W7:
Core:550+ Mhz
Mem:330+ Mhz

http://img14.imageshack.us/my.php?image ... 654oa8.jpg
T41: 1.6Ghz/0.7GB,XGA 14.1,Ati 7500 Mobility,40GB, DVD-ROM(Sold)
T43p: 2.13Ghz, 2GB, SXGA 14.1,ATi V3200 FireGL,80GB, DVD-ROM(Sold)
M1730:2.50Ghz, 4GB, WUXGA 17, NV 9800m GT Sli,400GB, BR-RW (Sold)
T400 :2.26Ghz, 2GB, WXGA+14.1, Intel 4500 GMA, 160GB, DVD-ROM (Sold)

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Re: Windows 7 on T43p

#5 Post by Marin85 » Fri Feb 06, 2009 7:25 am

Oh, thanks a bunch, I didn´t notice the beta at all :oops: I may try it out later just to see how it goes (generally I don´t overclock notebooks).

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Re: Windows 7 on T43p

#6 Post by Marin85 » Fri Feb 06, 2009 7:28 am

Wow, that´s quite some OC achievement. Try not to fry your T43p :). My Win 7 score is 4.2 (without OC), which is not much of a difference from your 3.9. What´s your score without oc?
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Re: Windows 7 on T43p

#7 Post by Quicklite » Fri Feb 06, 2009 7:29 am

Marin85 wrote:Oh, thanks a bunch, I didn´t notice the beta at all :oops: I may try it out later just to see how it goes (generally I don´t overclock notebooks).

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NP at all, I mainly use it to underclock, its quite useful as V3200 runs REALLY HOT :P .
T41: 1.6Ghz/0.7GB,XGA 14.1,Ati 7500 Mobility,40GB, DVD-ROM(Sold)
T43p: 2.13Ghz, 2GB, SXGA 14.1,ATi V3200 FireGL,80GB, DVD-ROM(Sold)
M1730:2.50Ghz, 4GB, WUXGA 17, NV 9800m GT Sli,400GB, BR-RW (Sold)
T400 :2.26Ghz, 2GB, WXGA+14.1, Intel 4500 GMA, 160GB, DVD-ROM (Sold)

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Re: Windows 7 on T43p

#8 Post by Marin85 » Fri Feb 06, 2009 7:33 am

Quicklite wrote:NP at all, I mainly use it to underclock, its quite useful as V3200 runs REALLY HOT :P .
Honestly, I didn´t expect to hear about underclocking :P but for those of us who don´t have switchable graphic, this might be indeed very helpful. Have you measured battery life when uc-ed?
IBM Lenovo Z61p | 15.4'' WUXGA | Intel Core 2 Duo T7400 2x 2.16GHz | 4 GB Kingston HyperX | Hitachi 7K500 500 GB + WD 1TB (USB) | ATI Mobility FireGL V5200 | ThinkPad Atheros a/b/g | Analog Devices AD1981HD | Win 7 x86 + ArchLinux 2009.08 x64 (number crunching)

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Re: Windows 7 on T43p

#9 Post by Quicklite » Fri Feb 06, 2009 7:57 am

I basically just got the laptop at the start of the week, and haven't ordered new battery yet.

Powerplay seem to downclock to 100/120 by default when away from AC already. However I just use ATi tool to underclock further to about 70/90 mhz to keep the laptop running cool, so far I only worked on desk with it, shall update when my 9 cell battery arrives...

Underclocking doesn't seem to have that much effect I think, I'm not sure whether underclocking or undervolting works better, shall look it up. Anyway, those WEI was done this morning at about 450/270, I haven't tried to refresh it yet. I think its 4.0 for aero experience at 400/250.
T41: 1.6Ghz/0.7GB,XGA 14.1,Ati 7500 Mobility,40GB, DVD-ROM(Sold)
T43p: 2.13Ghz, 2GB, SXGA 14.1,ATi V3200 FireGL,80GB, DVD-ROM(Sold)
M1730:2.50Ghz, 4GB, WUXGA 17, NV 9800m GT Sli,400GB, BR-RW (Sold)
T400 :2.26Ghz, 2GB, WXGA+14.1, Intel 4500 GMA, 160GB, DVD-ROM (Sold)

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Re: Windows 7 on T43p

#10 Post by Quicklite » Fri Feb 06, 2009 10:05 am

can anyone give me some help locating the audio driver? I'm going to try the one for T60, not sure how it will go though.
T41: 1.6Ghz/0.7GB,XGA 14.1,Ati 7500 Mobility,40GB, DVD-ROM(Sold)
T43p: 2.13Ghz, 2GB, SXGA 14.1,ATi V3200 FireGL,80GB, DVD-ROM(Sold)
M1730:2.50Ghz, 4GB, WUXGA 17, NV 9800m GT Sli,400GB, BR-RW (Sold)
T400 :2.26Ghz, 2GB, WXGA+14.1, Intel 4500 GMA, 160GB, DVD-ROM (Sold)

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Re: Windows 7 on T43p

#11 Post by Quicklite » Fri Feb 06, 2009 10:24 am

It doesn't work :? , has anyone got sound to work in W7 on T43? can you give me a link for the download?
T41: 1.6Ghz/0.7GB,XGA 14.1,Ati 7500 Mobility,40GB, DVD-ROM(Sold)
T43p: 2.13Ghz, 2GB, SXGA 14.1,ATi V3200 FireGL,80GB, DVD-ROM(Sold)
M1730:2.50Ghz, 4GB, WUXGA 17, NV 9800m GT Sli,400GB, BR-RW (Sold)
T400 :2.26Ghz, 2GB, WXGA+14.1, Intel 4500 GMA, 160GB, DVD-ROM (Sold)

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Re: Windows 7 on T43p

#12 Post by Marin85 » Fri Feb 06, 2009 10:37 am

ignore this...
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Re: Windows 7 on T43p

#13 Post by GomJabbar » Fri Feb 06, 2009 10:45 am

Sound worked for me out-of-the-box - or at least after Windows 7 Beta did the first update (don't remember). I have a T42 which uses the same sound chip as the T43.

Note the following. Not sure if this applies to Linux only or not.
Thinkwiki wrote:On some models (T40, T43p, ... R51e ...) audio is muted if either Headphone or Line Jack are unmuted. See also ALSA Wiki FAQ [1]. Also, if Headphone Sense or Line Jack Sense are unmuted audio is dead (R52, X40).
I see in Device Manager that the Intel(r) 82801DB/DBM AC '97 Audio Controller uses the following drivers:
C:\Windows\system32\drivers\ac97intc.sys
C:\Windows\system32\drivers\drmk.sys
C:\Windows\system32\drivers\portcls.sys

Make sure you have the hardware sound button unmuted, and the hardware volume control (buttons) turned up.
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Re: Windows 7 on T43p

#14 Post by Quicklite » Sat Feb 07, 2009 9:10 am

Update:

After loading all my programs, W7B seems to boot up slightly slower now, similar to vista; though the performance once everything is loaded, is just impeccable; there is some problems with loading sites like ebay without system freezing in firefox, however IE8 can easily bypass that problem.

I managed to resolve the problem with the USB by installing the intel chipset driver; and I finally got windows and thinkvantage update working, hope audio problem will be solved soon.

What I'll do now is order the highly hyped, Samsung HM160HC see how that fares, while sticking the 80GB drive into my T41 before getting rid of it; a 9 cell battery will be here soon. When I get the chance, I'll try to find a fast USB/express disk to enable turbo drive feature...


Thanks for the help :P
T41: 1.6Ghz/0.7GB,XGA 14.1,Ati 7500 Mobility,40GB, DVD-ROM(Sold)
T43p: 2.13Ghz, 2GB, SXGA 14.1,ATi V3200 FireGL,80GB, DVD-ROM(Sold)
M1730:2.50Ghz, 4GB, WUXGA 17, NV 9800m GT Sli,400GB, BR-RW (Sold)
T400 :2.26Ghz, 2GB, WXGA+14.1, Intel 4500 GMA, 160GB, DVD-ROM (Sold)

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Re: Windows 7 on T43p

#15 Post by Quicklite » Sat Feb 07, 2009 10:48 am

all working now :P
T41: 1.6Ghz/0.7GB,XGA 14.1,Ati 7500 Mobility,40GB, DVD-ROM(Sold)
T43p: 2.13Ghz, 2GB, SXGA 14.1,ATi V3200 FireGL,80GB, DVD-ROM(Sold)
M1730:2.50Ghz, 4GB, WUXGA 17, NV 9800m GT Sli,400GB, BR-RW (Sold)
T400 :2.26Ghz, 2GB, WXGA+14.1, Intel 4500 GMA, 160GB, DVD-ROM (Sold)

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