Windows 8 coming soon!

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MikeM · #1 Post by **MikeM** » Mon Apr 04, 2011 8:48 am

http://money.cnn.com/2011/04/04/technol ... htm?hpt=T2

Microsoft is trying to move further past Vista and closer to running on ARM hardware. Maybe they will open the source and GPL it too.

craigmontHunter · #2 Post by **craigmontHunter** » Mon Apr 04, 2011 9:24 am

They will probably release it fall 2012, if they keep following their current scedule (roughly every 3 years). There is expected to be a couple of public betas between now and then, probably starting in the fall of this year.

While they are going to make an ARM version, I highly doubt that they will gpl it anytime soon

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Vista was an unfortunate situation, mainly because of the negative publicity (primarly from apple) that microsoft did nothing to resolve, as well as the pathetic systems they sold with vista preinstalled (1.4ghz celeron and 512mb ram? - that could/can not run anything nicely) - if you put vista on a decent system, it flies (especially after the 2nd service pack).

lukee · #3 Post by **lukee** » Tue Apr 05, 2011 8:46 am

I'm very looking forward to see first beta version and I hope that Microsoft won't increase system requirements with the new system from Windows 7 point of view.

Brian10161 · #4 Post by **Brian10161** » Tue Apr 05, 2011 6:18 pm

I'd personally appreciate it if they could work on a way of making the OS fairly flexible in the sense that it will run okay on slower systems/netbooks.

Linux runs great on my iPod, why does Windows give some of my computers a hard time? (I know, apples and oranges, merely just an exaggeration to get my point across). I like Windows 7, but I still find it bloated (10+ GB for an install is a little ridiculous IMO, Linux Mint is only 2.6gb or so) and I find its slow sometimes.

I'd like to see the OS go back to the days of Windows 95/98 in the sense that it asks you what you would like installed. I don't need/want Media Center or WMP or any of that stuff.

Oh well, such is life I suppose

Bánh mì · #5 Post by **Bánh mì** » Thu Jun 02, 2011 3:46 am

Seems to be Gates latest desperation move at blunting the probably success of IOS5. Recall Windows and W7 is basically an attempt to emulate MAC OS.

bgalakazam · #6 Post by **bgalakazam** » Thu Jun 02, 2011 4:46 am

Bánh mì wrote:Seems to be Gates latest desperation move at blunting the probably success of IOS5. Recall Windows and W7 is basically an attempt to emulate MAC OS.

and OS X is trying to emulate what Compiz and Beryl had long before that. The problem with Windows IMO is that hardware requirements are artificially pumped up to sell the new stuff. A FreeBSD, GNU/Linux, etc. kernel can easily run on an a P2 with 64 RAM and have a WM with a browser. Try that with W7 or OS X.

I did, however, like W7, especially compared to Vista, which was horribad. I always keep 1 computer at home with Windows, and the current one runs W7.

ozzymud · #7 Post by **ozzymud** » Thu Jun 02, 2011 6:16 am

Ahh.. Windows 98 SE... If it wasn't for 4.7GB DVD authoring, I could quite possibly STILL have windows 98

Windows 8? heh... it will be XP for me till at very least 2014

craigmontHunter · #8 Post by **craigmontHunter** » Thu Jun 02, 2011 9:40 am

They have started releasing info about windows 8 - http://blogs.technet.com/b/keithcombs/a ... ows-8.aspx - from what I have gathered, it will have the same system requirements as vista and 7. It looks intresting, but I will probably stick with vista for the forseable future, since it runs better than any other OS I have tried on this system. (although I can get a windows 7 upgrade for 40$ from school in a little while)

ozzymud · #9 Post by **ozzymud** » Thu Jun 02, 2011 4:18 pm

bgalakazam wrote:A FreeBSD, GNU/Linux, etc. kernel can easily run on an a P2 with 64 RAM and have a WM with a browser

I run Debian with the latest kernel (It fixed the Yenta Cardbus bug on OLD hardware) in my 760XL Thinkpads (P166 64 to 104MB ram an 4GB drive)... lightweight window manager and Firefox(Iceweasel)

craigmontHunter wrote:(although I can get a windows 7 upgrade for 40$ from school in a little while)

Vista was an error, You might want to give that upgrade a go, While I personally dislike Vista/7, 7 is indeed an improvemnt over Vista (way faster on same hardware).

pianowizard · #10 Post by **pianowizard** » Thu Jun 02, 2011 4:36 pm

ozzymud wrote:Vista was an error, You might want to give that upgrade a go, While I personally dislike Vista/7, 7 is indeed an improvemnt over Vista (way faster on same hardware).

The original Vista was indeed an "error", but Vista with SP2 isn't -- it runs about as well as XP and 7. By the time SP2 came out, the vast majority of users had already abandoned Vista in favor of 7 or even XP, and so they never experienced the improvements that SP2 brought about. Among XP SP4, Vista SP2 and 7 SP1, I find Vista SP2 the most pleasant to use. It's really snappy on my Dell Precision 390 desktop (Core2 Quad, 4GB RAM, 15,000rpm HDD) and Precision M90 laptop (Core2 Duo, 3GB RAM, 7200rpm HDD).

craigmontHunter · #11 Post by **craigmontHunter** » Thu Jun 02, 2011 8:40 pm

@pianowizard - I did the same comparison between xp sp3, vista and 7, and found that vista SP2 was the best - better battery life, performance and general responsiveness (and it comes in a x64 version - I have the license, I may as well use it)

ozzymud · #12 Post by **ozzymud** » Fri Jun 03, 2011 1:04 am

Yea, I must admit, I never made it far with Vista... tried the RTM... figured it was another "Windows ME" and never looked back... well I went "back" to XP

And sadly, 7 just reminded me TOO much of Vista... although greatly improved... XP has been comfortable for many years and I'm too old to appreciate change

dr_st · #13 Post by **dr_st** » Fri Jun 03, 2011 1:29 am

I jumped on the Vista bandwagon way after SP1, and a little before SP2, and so I didn't have to eat any of the cr(p early adopters faced. When I joined, it was already a mature system, with many initial quirks worked out, the driver support was already far better, and the hardware itself was much more powerful, so that any potential responsiveness issues were moot.

I try to do this with most new technologies.

Interesting what this "Windows 8" will be called in terms of kernel numbering. I thought it was hilarious when Windows 7 was really 6.1 - a testimony that it's basically a revamped Vista kernel. But a huge marketing success for Microsoft. In part because of the bad impression Vista left, the impression of Win7 was so good.

ozzymud · #14 Post by **ozzymud** » Fri Jun 03, 2011 2:05 am

I used to be that way back when I was a computer tech for a living, I was pretty much forced to because of work (customers mostly wanted latest and "greatest" while friends/family knew better

)

These days, new stuff runs in either a virtual machine, a netbook where I don't need to worry much if I can't do this or that, or on my benchtop machine that I format quite often to "play" with some other OS.

I don't/wont go out of my way to keep an old OS, like those nuts with Calmira running Win31 as a base upto around 2009. But as long as I can do what I need to without much effort in my current OS, an "upgrade" isn't really an upgrade. Same goes for software, examples are Paint Shop Pro 7.04, Métamorphose v1.12 (2.x BLOWS), Firefox 3.6, Thunderbird 2, UltraEdit 12, and an endless list of other "old" software that does all I need it to, upgrading would most likely be a waste of time and prolly resources, considering all the bloatware type thinking finding it's way into software and OS's.

AMATX · #15 Post by **AMATX** » Fri Jun 03, 2011 12:59 pm

ozzymud wrote:Ahh.. Windows 98 SE... If it wasn't for 4.7GB DVD authoring, I could quite possibly STILL have windows 98

Windows 8? heh... it will be XP for me till at very least 2014

Why stop there? Might as well pull out the DOS installation floppies and be permanently stuck in the 20th century...

Windows 7 Pro is by far the best and most stable of the wayyy too many Windows Opsys I've used in the past 20 years. Altho it took Gates and crew far too long to get it right, with this one they've finally got something better than 'beta testing on the customers'.

hunterman223 · #16 Post by **hunterman223** » Fri Jun 03, 2011 6:37 pm

AMATX wrote:Why stop there? Might as well pull out the DOS installation floppies and be permanently stuck in the 20th century...

Ahh, good old DOS. Now that you mentioned it I will be installing it in a VM just for the heck of it. The fastest and lightest OS you'll find...

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ozzymud · #17 Post by **ozzymud** » Sat Jun 04, 2011 2:16 am

My Acer/Smith Corona PC210 (286 @ 10MHz) is currently set up and used quite often in the living room...

It runs the original DOS 4.01, has a menu called PCDash, and has over 80 games installed on it that my 6 year old plays often and LOVES it...

Commander Keen
Duke Nukem
Galactix
Hocus Pocus
Bio Menace
Crystal Caves

pretty much the entire Apogee collection i bought in the 80's and 90's

Ain't no sense running a quad core with a dos emulator to play em, they work GREAT on the machine and the menu makes it so easy he's been playing them since he was 3

My daughter self taught herself to program on a Commodore SX-64 running at 1MHz around 2005 (she was 10), she is now quite fluent in several programming languages

There is are many other old machines running in our house with several different uses, new is not always better persay... If it does what you need it to, it aint nessaceraly broke

So, yea, I break out the old stuff quite often around my house...

dr_st · #18 Post by **dr_st** » Sat Jun 04, 2011 2:47 am

ozzymud wrote:My Acer/Smith Corona PC210 (286 @ 10MHz) is currently set up and used quite often in the living room...

It runs the original DOS 4.01, has a menu called PCDash, and has over 80 games installed on it that my 6 year old plays often and LOVES it...

I have the same set-up on my AMD K6-II 500MHz machine (the oldest machine I have, still 100% functional). The OS is Win98 SE, the menu is QuikMenu, but the idea is pretty much the same. I still find myself launching some of those oldies from time to time.

ozzymud · #19 Post by **ozzymud** » Sat Jun 04, 2011 2:54 am

Yea, I had to recently spend $10 on the 286.. Dallas realtime clock finally died

Past that, original EVERYTHING in it (I only edited the autoexec to run PCDash instead of the Smith Corona word processor stuff)

It will continue on till it finally dies completely, better that then filling up more landfills + it's a nice bit of history.