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Sydney - buying HP laserjet?

#1 Post by AlanHK » Fri Apr 12, 2019 11:58 pm

I'm moving to Sydney soon and will need a HP Laserjet.

I have one now -- used ones are cheap in Hong Kong. It would be expensive to ship and probably a good chance it being trashed on the way.

Specifically I have a HPLJ 2420 and need something similar-- 600/1200 dpi, Postscript, ethernet.
Cheap toner refills available.

I guess places that sell used corporate Thinkpads might also have these, so asking here.
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Re: Sydney - buying HP laserjet?

#2 Post by RealBlackStuff » Sat Apr 13, 2019 6:47 am

Buy a Brother laser printer instead, such as this HL-L5100DN.
I have its same-sized predecessor Brother HL-5240, that I bought new in 2007, still going as good as on day one!
Or if size is important, check the smaller HL-L2370DW.
Brother printers are way better and refills (even non-Brother) are a lot cheaper as well (7000 pages refill for $19.99)
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Re: Sydney - buying HP laserjet?

#3 Post by AlanHK » Sat Apr 13, 2019 12:06 pm

Still asking WHERE to buy, not WHAT.

Ordering from USA to Australia is a non-starter, shipping is more than the cost of the printer.
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Re: Sydney - buying HP laserjet?

#4 Post by RealBlackStuff » Sat Apr 13, 2019 12:26 pm

Don't tell me you can't buy new or used Brother printers in HK!

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Re: Sydney - buying HP laserjet?

#5 Post by Thinkpad4by3 » Sat Apr 13, 2019 12:46 pm

RealBlackStuff wrote:
Sat Apr 13, 2019 12:26 pm
Don't tell me you can't buy new or used Brother printers in HK!
Check Australian eBay/CL/alternate?
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Re: Sydney - buying HP laserjet?

#6 Post by shawross » Sat Apr 13, 2019 5:48 pm

We have Gumtree in Australia with which one can find a bargain.
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Re: Sydney - buying HP laserjet?

#7 Post by madicetea » Sat Apr 13, 2019 10:39 pm

AlanHK wrote:
Sat Apr 13, 2019 12:06 pm
Still asking WHERE to buy, not WHAT.

Ordering from USA to Australia is a non-starter, shipping is more than the cost of the printer.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category: ... _Australia

I'm guessing if you trust big-box stores more than the Internet (which at times, I do) then one of these stores would be your best bet.

Seems JB Hi-Fi and Strathfield have stores standing in different parts of Sydney -- probably among other locations in the region as well (assuming you train ride / drive to the nearest suburbs).

Ofc, the closest to Australia I've ever been is New Zealand so I can't help much further -- but good luck on your search.

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Re: Sydney - buying HP laserjet?

#8 Post by TonyJZX » Thu May 02, 2019 7:10 pm

Sydney is a city with 5 mil. people. You can just about get everything here.

What is hard to find is 10yr old Laser printers, new or in good working condition.

Here's an example:

https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/HP-LASERJET ... ctupt=true

WHo would pay $300 for this?

OP fails to understand that HP, like many consumer companies have rapid model turnaround.

Just buy any modern printer or all in one laser BUT first check out toner prices.

Eg. I have a Fuji Xerox all in one.

It takes generic toner carts of 3,000 pg at around $25 aud. That's as good as it gets.

Avoid anything that takes 1,000 pg carts, its just not worth your time.

If you want, cruise around for a big enterprise printer that takes 10,000pg carts at around $100 generic, but few people have the room.

I have a lot of sources for Thinkpads but its not usualy something people advertise, gumtree is pretty worthless due to the proliferation of mums of dads who want to sell $500 T400s etc.

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Re: Sydney - buying HP laserjet?

#9 Post by AlanHK » Sat May 04, 2019 1:37 am

TonyJZX wrote:
Thu May 02, 2019 7:10 pm
OP fails to understand that HP, like many consumer companies have rapid model turnaround.
Yeah, I'm an idiot who has been using laser printers for 25 years, and know nothing about them.
The "rapid turnaround" of models with useless new features means that they are not designed for durability or compatibility, and likely there are no compatible toner cartridges, only expensive ones from the original manufacturer, since toner/ink is the major profit centre for these.

I need
1) min 600 dpi b/w
2) reliable paper handling -- not fun printing 200 pages if it jams after every 10.
3) cheap toner refills
4) Postscript compatible, not a "Winprinter" with a weird proprietary printer driver to make up for a dumbed down printer.
5) networkable

And the short way to say all that is "Used HP business printer", as HP laserjets had all those features 15 years ago,and not much if any improvement since.
I used a bunch of those when I was working in a small company and now self employed for 17 years have continued to do so, but pennypinching as it's my personal money.

I'm currently using HP LJ2420 made about 2006, cost about US$50, toner cost US30 for 12000 page cart.

I asked here because I thought that Thinkpads were a similar product: designed for business, solid and reliable and sold off while still in good condition when they upgrade, with a good parts and repair infrastructure.
I know where to find this stuff in Hong Kong, e.g. here, but they cost too much to ship overseas and who knows if they would arrive in one piece.
Anyway, seems I was wrong to ask here, all I get is patronising lectures and/or irrelevant responses.
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Re: Sydney - buying HP laserjet?

#10 Post by RealBlackStuff » Sat May 04, 2019 5:34 am

My oldie Brother HL-5240 from 2007 is plugged in via USB into my router, and hence networked.
No need for a wifi-enabled printer.
It's available to all computers who have access to my home network, whether wired or wireless (after installing the Brother driver).

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Re: Sydney - buying HP laserjet?

#11 Post by TonyJZX » Sat May 04, 2019 8:12 am

There's an old maxim that's relevant here more than any other place.

If you're an expert then why do you need to ask?

There's a link right there. Pay your $300 and move on.

In almost every sector there's rapid model cycling. THis should be plainly obvious to anyone. If you have a laundry list of specific requirements then no one is better server to meet them than yourself.

Thing is many of us have been in the IT industry for years and we dont need to brag about it. If you are then you really dont need anyones advice so why ask for it.

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Re: Sydney - buying HP laserjet?

#12 Post by AlanHK » Tue May 07, 2019 3:53 am

RealBlackStuff wrote:
Sat May 04, 2019 5:34 am
My oldie Brother HL-5240 from 2007 is plugged in via USB into my router, and hence networked.
No need for a wifi-enabled printer.
It's available to all computers who have access to my home network, whether wired or wireless (after installing the Brother driver).
I didn't say "wifI". I said "ethernet".
I can plug that into my router, no proprietary drivers, then my PC, laptop, Linux, Android, iPad, can all access it by IP and a standard driver.
I know there are ways to use USB in some routers, but ethernet works with any router and almost anything that needs a printer.
If I got a free USB printer I'd make it work, but that's not likely.
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Re: Sydney - buying HP laserjet?

#13 Post by RealBlackStuff » Tue May 07, 2019 4:11 am

I don't see your problem.
Your HPLJ 2420 has a USB connector.
Any decent router also has one or more USB-ports, so hook up your printer there.
The printer-driver needs to be installed in each computer that wants to use the printer.
An ethernet-wired computer needs different printer-driver settings from a wifi computer, that's all.

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Re: Sydney - buying HP laserjet?

#14 Post by AlanHK » Tue May 07, 2019 4:21 am

TonyJZX wrote:
Sat May 04, 2019 8:12 am
There's an old maxim that's relevant here more than any other place.

If you're an expert then why do you need to ask?
I asked about the things I don't know.
You insist on lecturing me on things I didn't ask.
TonyJZX wrote:
Sat May 04, 2019 8:12 am
There's a link right there. Pay your $300 and move on.
I can find a lousy deal all by myself, but thanks anyway.
TonyJZX wrote:
Sat May 04, 2019 8:12 am
In almost every sector there's rapid model cycling. THis should be plainly obvious to anyone. If you have a laundry list of specific requirements then no one is better server to meet them than yourself.
I only gave the "laundry list" because you assumed I didn't understand what printers are or how the market works.
And when I explain exactly why I asked for what I did, I'm "bragging"...

It's exactly because of the "rapid model cycling" that I prefer a line that is a bit more staid and has long-term support in terms of consumables, parts and compatibility.

Again, same philosophy as Thinkpads, not cutting edge, but you don't need to throw them away in a couple of years for lack of a driver, parts, etc.

I'm sure you disagree with some or all the above. We can take that as read and you don't have to waste your time on me any more. Please.
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Re: Sydney - buying HP laserjet?

#15 Post by AlanHK » Tue May 07, 2019 4:29 am

RealBlackStuff wrote:
Tue May 07, 2019 4:11 am
I don't see your problem.
Your HPLJ 2420 has a USB connector.
Yeah, and also ethernet.
RealBlackStuff wrote:
Tue May 07, 2019 4:11 am
Any decent router also has one or more USB-ports, so hook up your printer there.
The printer-driver needs to be installed in each computer that wants to use the printer.
An ethernet-wired computer needs different printer-driver settings from a wifi computer, that's all.
I don't have "decent router" it seems.
It's not a big deal, but I just prefer to use ethernet rather than buy a new router and try to bodge it with USB.
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Re: Sydney - buying HP laserjet?

#16 Post by TonyJZX » Tue May 07, 2019 6:00 pm

I wish you good hunting in your quest for 10yr old printers in a foreign land.

Sounds like a normal thing for most immigrants to Sydney.

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Re: Sydney - buying HP laserjet?

#17 Post by axur-delmeria » Wed May 08, 2019 1:10 am

To be fair, this isn't really the best place to ask "where to buy a used HP Laserjet in Sydney".

This forum's members are spread far and wide, but there's not much of us active, and there's little guarantee that there's one who lives/lived in Sydney and purchased a used laser printer.

Perhaps an online community with a greater number of users will be of greater help to you. Reddit, perhaps?
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