Weight of Thinkpads and Devices **PIC**

[Medessec]

My roommate recently got this Accuteck Digital Postal Scale, and I decided to sit down and accurately measure the weight of several Thinkpads, because I was a bit interested in seeing how everything compared.

I made sure the scale was appropriately zeroed and that when weighing a laptop, I weighed it in different positions to confirm it wasn't sitting on a separate piece of equipment off the scale.

For those situated in the EU, or those situated on a wee little rock in the Atlantic Ocean northwest of the EU, I've also included conversions to kg. I have cross-referenced with a scale that measures kg, and it is relatively accurate. Measurements in kg will be marked non-bold, in blue.

Thinkpad X60 Tablet
Thinkpad X60 SXGA+ L7400, SSD, stylus: 4lb, 5.5oz 1.97 kg
Same, with UltraBase mounted(500GB Hitachi HDD in UltraBay): 6lb, 5.7oz 2.88 kg
My roommate's X60/61 Frankenpad, SXGA+, L7700, SSD, 3G card, no second fan, stylus: 4lb, 5.1oz 1.96 kg
Same, with UltraBase mounted(Ultrabay battery installed in Ultrabay): 6lb, 6.4oz 2.90 kg

Thinkpad T60
14" T60, Intel graphics, T5500, XGA, 6-cell battery: 5lb, 2.2oz 2.33 kg
15" T60/61 Frankenpad, T7500, SXGA+ IPS, CD-RW/DVD, 6-cell battery: 5lb, 9.3oz 2.53 kg
15" T60/61 Frankenpad, X9000, UXGA IPS, DVD MULTI, 9-cell battery: 6lb, 3.6oz 2.82 kg
2503 Thinkpad Advanced Dock, no devices installed: 6lb, 10oz 3 kg
2503 Thinkpad Advanced Dock, ATI Radeon 6450 installed, 320GB Ultrabay HDD installed: 7lb, 12.4oz 3.53 kg

Thinkpad T43
My spare 15" T43p, UXGA with ruined polarizer, 9-cell batt, 30GB HDD, DVD-MULTI: 6lb, 4.2oz 2.84 kg
My prized 15" T43p, UXGA, 2.26 GHz P-M, 9-cell batt, 80GB main HDD with 120GB Ultrabay HDD: 6lb, 5.2oz 2.86 kg
My prized 15" T43p in it's Zeroshock III sleeve: 6lb, 15.5oz 3.16 kg
2877 Thinkpad Dock II /w GeForce MX420 PCI video card – 5lb, 15oz 2.69 kg

Vintage Thinkpads
Thinkpad A31p, 80GB HDD installed, UXGA, CD-RW/DVD-ROM, Floppy Drive: 7lb, 10.2oz 3.46 kg
Thinkpad 701CS, no battery installed: 3lb, 12oz 1.7 kg
Thinkpad 760ED, CD-ROM, 2.1GB HDD, original battery: 6lb, 4.8oz 2.86 kg
Thinkpad 380ED, CD-ROM and Floppy, HDD installed: 7lb, 2oz 3.23 kg
Thinkpad 770X, DVD-ROM, battery installed: 7lb, 14.4oz 3.58 kg
Thinkpad G41 15" SXGA+, 3.46GHz P4(original cooling components for configuration),GeForce 5200, CD-RW/DVD combo, 80GB IDE HDD: 8lb, 7.7oz 3.84 kg
Ti-lidded Thinkpad Z61p 15.4” WUXGA, no HDD installed, 6-cell battery: 6lb, 10oz 3kg

The big guys
Lenovo Thinkpad W700ds, 500GB Hitachi HDD, Digitizer /w stylus, Quadro 3700M: 10lb, 12.8oz 4.90 kg
W700 Minidock V2: 3lb 1.36 kg
Clevo D901C, SSD, two 8700M GeForce MXMII video cards in SLI, C2D E8650: 11lb, 11oz 5.30 kg
My roommate's Clevo D900F, GTX280M, 128GB SSD, 500GB WDC HDD, WUXGA: 12lb, 1.7oz 5.49 kg
My Clevo D900F, GTX 680M, 120GB SSD, 1TB HDD WDC, 750GB Seagate HDD, WUXGA, Newer manufactured cooling parts for GTX 680M: 11lb, 14 oz 5.38 kg
Clevo D900F V2 Power Brick, for male motherboard jack: 1lb, 14.8oz 0.87 kg
Clevo D900T, P4 3.6 GHz, GeForce 7800 GTX, One HDD, One DVD-RW, WUXGA: 12lb, 9.9oz 5.72 kg

I got bored.
An ATI Radeon X300 PCI-E taken from a Sony VGC-series desktop computer: 5.5oz 0.16 kg
A Cobra HH28 Handheld COM/CB Radio transceiver with the 3 necessary AA batteries for mobile powered use and antenna fitted: 1lb, 1.6oz 0.50 kg
A Sony Handycam HDR-CX190 Camcorder(newer, bought a few months ago. Entry-model HD camcorder): 9oz 0.25 kg
A Sony Handycam DCR-SX63 Camcorder(older, bought maybe 3-4 years ago. SD VGA quality camcorder): 8.5oz 0.24 kg
A JVC Everio GZ-MS230BU Camcorder(older, even older than the DCR-SX63. SD VGA quality): 7.8oz 0.22 kg
CECH-A01 original fat PS3, with 4 USB ports and full backwards compatibility, console by itself: 11lb, 1.6oz 2.54 kg
Genuine Dualshock 3(PS3 controller): 6.7oz 0.18 kg
Non-Genuine Chinese ebay PS3 controller: 6.1 oz 0.17 kg
Nintendo Gamecube by itself, DOL-001 later model with digital out: 3lb, 0.1oz 1.36 kg
Plantronics GameCom 780 Headset: 9.3 oz 0.26 kg
Zebra F-701 Stainless Steel Ballpoint Pen: 0.7oz 0.01 kg
Scotch Titanium Non-stick Scissors: 2.9 oz 0.08 kg
Monoprice DVI-I(DVI-A interface) to VGA direct adapter: 1.1oz 0.03 kg
One Duracell AA battery: 0.9oz 0.02 kg
$3 Wal-Mart Laser Pointer/LED Flashlight: 0.9 oz 0.02
A Fortune Cookie from Panda Express(still in it’s wrapping): 0.3 oz 8.5 grams(0.008 kg)
An Arby’s Ketchup packet: 0.2 oz 5.6 grams(0.005 kg)
An Intel 3945ABG Mini PCI-E Wi-Fi card: 0.2 oz 5.6 grams(0.005 kg)
A 2.5” Standard thickness laptop Hard Drive Disk, 160GB Seagate Momentus 5400.3: 3.5oz 0.10 kg

Sony Vaio PCV-1102(old Pentium 4 Desktop tower): 29lb, 3oz 13.23 kg
My roommate's Desktop Computer(X58 board with i7-950, gigantic 6-pipe heatsink, 2x GeForce GTX 480s in SLI, 800W PSU, 3 DDR3 RAM modules, Antec Lanboy Modular case, 2x WDC 3.5" HDDs, 1 SSD, no optical disk drive: 36lb, 10oz 16.61 kg

Fun fact: I put 11 trackpoint nubs on the scale, and that didn't even register 0.1oz(2.8 grams) on the scale.

[Cigarguy]

LOL!

Interesting stats but seriously you need more homework!

[Medessec]

It was either this or video games. At least I'm not doing drugs...

[ilakast]

It all sounds Greek to me. These are not SI units

[Summilux]

It all sounds Greek to me. These are not SI units

Funny to read, coming from a Brit
... or maybe you're an expat

[Medessec]

These are not SI units

Oh geez... I gotta see if the scale has a kg setting instead. Maybe I can find the time to include those measurements if it does...!

Funny to read, coming from a Brit

Heh! That's always a hard hit. Ya know... driving on the wrong side of the road...

I kid though. I have a British friend I know personally... it's always fun to poke you guys in the side.

[ilakast]

... or maybe you're an expat

I gave it away, I guess

Oh geez... I gotta see if the scale has a kg setting instead. Maybe I can find the time to include those measurements if it does...!

Noooo, don't do that because of me, I'll feel guilty for the rest of my life I was only teasing you; I can google everything into kilos if need be

[wisdomkeeper]

I appreciate the effort, but these are not metric measures, but imperial and they mean nothing to the people in the rest of the world.

[Cigarguy]

I appreciate the effort, but these are not metric measures, but imperial and they mean nothing to the people in the rest of the world.

He's an American so it's normal for him to use imperial. Actually it's OK to use whatever unit of measure that he wants. I would have accepted Medessecian Unit of measure. I also accepted English as his language of correspondence even though a lot of the world do not speak English. Sometimes it's OK for the rest of the world to accept Americans for being Americans. We, non-Americans, also have access to online unit converters.

[Cigarguy]

I have a British friend I know personally...

You have a lot of friends that you don't know personally?

[wisdomkeeper]

He's an American so it's normal for him to use imperial.

It's time for the "imperial world" to accept metric measurement system and start to drive in the right, like all the rest of the world. This kind of differences doesn't make anybody special, only make understanding more difficult. I'm joking, of course. Just don't understand why continuing to use this a bit a little archaic measurement system. Also, it would be better if they use Schuco plugs and 230V, because this would make it easy for me just to plug into the mains the equipment that come from there.
You are right about the language, but...happens what happens(this we would say in our language). Because of mysterious circumstances English language has become one of the dominant languages for international communications. Maybe it's time to switch to Chinese. I don't know if you know the anecdote - "Optimists learn English, pessimists learn Russian, but realists learn Chinese "
p.s This post meant to be only a joke, i apologize if someone feels offended. This wasn't my intention.

[Cigarguy]

Because of mysterious circumstances English language has become one of the dominant languages for international communications. Maybe it's time to switch to Chinese. I don't know if you know the anecdote - "Optimists learn English, pessimists learn Russian, but realists learn Chinese "

Not that surprising. There was a time when the world's land masses was mysterious, new and relatively unexplored. At that time the British Empire was dominant and brought English and imperial unit of measure to their colonies and territories. Being Chinese, I've long ago switched to Chinese and can converse in a few other somethingnese. I like your anecdote....funny.

[rkawakami]

My roommate recently got this Accuteck Digital Postal Scale... <snip>

and

A 2.5” Standard thickness laptop Hard Drive Disk, 160GB Seagate Momentus 5400.3: 3.5oz

You do know that you have to go back to re-measure all of the laptops. You forgot to note how full each hard drive was!

[pianowizard]

Just don't understand why continuing to use this a bit a little archaic measurement system.

The pound (lb) gives higher precision than the kilogram (kg), and much higher precision than the stone (st). Of course one can still say "I weigh 11.1 stones", but it's easier to say (and remember) "155 pounds". Same thing for feet versus meters, or Fahrenheit versus Celsius. In other words, Americans tend to prefer units with finer gradations.

[wisdomkeeper]

Being Chinese, I've long ago switched to Chinese and can converse in a few other somethingnese. I like your anecdote....funny.

As I said - the anecdote meant to be only a joke. I'm sorry if i have offended you in any way. It meant to point out that while the other "superpowers" strife with each other, the China literally became the new economical superpower in the world. You are right about he British Empire(but don't forget Spain), but today all the things seem to be quite different than those days.

[Cigarguy]

As I said - the anecdote meant to be only a joke. I'm sorry if i have offended you in any way. It meant to point out that the China literally became the new economical superpower in the world. You are right about he British Empire(but don't forget Spain), but today all the things seem to be quite different than those days.

No offense taken and I'm amused by the joke. I get your point about China and Mandarin being a desirable language because of it.

[wisdomkeeper]

In other words, Americans tend to prefer units with finer gradations.

It's easy, because..uh, you know - there are also digits after decimal point. It's all about the standardization. Makes life much easier. To know that everywhere the units you use have the same "meaning". Some imperial units differ from place to another.

[twistero]

The pound (lb) gives higher precision than the kilogram (kg), and much higher precision than the stone (st). Of course one can still say "I weigh 11.1 stones", but it's easier to say (and remember) "155 pounds". Same thing for feet versus meters, or Fahrenheit versus Celsius. In other words, Americans tend to prefer units with finer gradations.

Um, no? I am 175cm tall, or 1.75m tall. I can choose the gradation of my unit as I prefer, easily convey the same precision and easily convert between them.
Try that with "I am 5 foot 10" and "I am 70 inches tall".
The same goes for quart, pint, gallon, ounce and whatever wizardry units they use for volumes. Oh, sorry, fluid ounce, not that "dry" ounce.
How many yards are there in a mile again? How come a yard is less than a meter but a mile is much more than a kilometer?
At least there's only one Fahrenheit, no units of "18-Fahrenheit" or "1/16 Fahrenheit" or whatever of that nonsense.

Oh god I love decimal.

[wisdomkeeper]

...

Wow, you are very persuasive. You are so persuasive that if I was American, i would right away switch to metric. +1

[pianowizard]

twister, that's why I said "tend to" - I always choose my words carefully.

Oh god I love decimal.

Well, Fahrenheits, inches, miles etc. can have decimals, too. My bathroom scale is in pounds and shows one decimal place, for example.

Personally, I grew up using mostly metrics because I wasn't born in the U.S., but now I have learned to prefer measuring height in feet and inches, and weight in pounds. For distance and length, I have never liked the yard, but am equally comfortable with km and miles, and with cm and inches. For volume, I always use mL and L, except when getting gas because all gas stations in the States show only gallons.

[Medessec]

You have a lot of friends that you don't know personally?

Aww-haw.... low blow!

You do know that you have to go back to re-measure all of the laptops. You forgot to note how full each hard drive was!

Ah-hah! That's a pretty good one...

As for the Imperial versus Metric debate, I was about to post in reply to ilakast down there but then things spiraled into a debate... that if more people had serious sentiments about seeing the measurements in Metric, I'd make efforts myself to list them in that. Even though he was joking. Sorry ilakast.

I know there's a lot of Europeans on here, and I totally understand you guys and how you feel on the "we aren't standardizing our measurements" thing. If you guys value the information to the point where you'd appreciate being able to see it in your native equivalent, then i'll do it! Because it puts on a nice example anyways... I like sharing things with Britush and O-eropeuns.

[wisdomkeeper]

Personally, I grew up using mostly metrics because I wasn't born in the U.S., but now I have learned to prefer measuring height in feet and inches, and weight in pounds.

It's difficult and makes absolutely no sense to discard metrics. Metrics are standardized all around the world and make life simple, because we have one base unit and multiples/sub-multiples of the unit, following simple decimal pattern. I don't have to know how much is 1 foot, 1 inch, 1 mile - the prefix of the multiples/sub-multiples clearly specifies what part of/how much bigger the multiple/sub-multiple is than the base unit. 1 kilogram is 1 thousand more than 1 gram

[Cyanide0031]

The pound (lb) gives higher precision than the kilogram (kg), and much higher precision than the stone (st). Of course one can still say "I weigh 11.1 stones", but it's easier to say (and remember) "155 pounds". Same thing for feet versus meters, or Fahrenheit versus Celsius. In other words, Americans tend to prefer units with finer gradations.

Um, no? I am 175cm tall, or 1.75m tall. I can choose the gradation of my unit as I prefer, easily convey the same precision and easily convert between them.
Try that with "I am 5 foot 10" and "I am 70 inches tall".
The same goes for quart, pint, gallon, ounce and whatever wizardry units they use for volumes. Oh, sorry, fluid ounce, not that "dry" ounce.
How many yards are there in a mile again? How come a yard is less than a meter but a mile is much more than a kilometer?
At least there's only one Fahrenheit, no units of "18-Fahrenheit" or "1/16 Fahrenheit" or whatever of that nonsense.

Oh god I love decimal.

As a proud American I shall prove how effective our system is, it is really simple.

There are .... pints in a quart,
are quarts bigger than pints? I think I buy my Ice-cream in little pints.
A carton of milk is quart? hmm..
I buy 500mL water bottles, 16 fluid ounces?
hmm... My 2L bottles of soda...
I have no clue how many quarts are in a pint, how many pints are in a gallon...
There are... lots of yards in a mile...


In university math and sciences we work primarily in metric

[RealBlackStuff]

Worst of all: liquid measurements in the US are different from the UK!
1 US gallon = 3.78541 Liters
1 UK gallon = 4.54609 Liters
How stupid can you get?
And on a car's fuel consumption in MPG (that's Miles Per Gallon) you can't trust anybody any way!

[Medessec]

1 US gallon = 3.78541 Liters
1 UK gallon = 4.54609 Liters
How stupid can you get?

If I recall, the fluid ounce is also different... 16 fl oz over here equals a pint, whereas (I don't know if it's the UK) elsewhere it's 20 fl oz equals the next unit up.

For those caught up in the Imperial vs. Metric debate, I have posted kg-unit conversions on the original post, for your viewing convenience. Luckily I had my Ti-84 handy, so I just stripped my lb, oz layout to just ounces, then translated ounces to kg using Google's calculator.

[Summilux]

Heh! That's always a hard hit. Ya know... driving on the wrong side of the road...

I kid though. I have a British friend I know personally... it's always fun to poke you guys in the side.

No offence taken, I'm quite used to it... to poking the opposite shore, since I'm hailing from the other side of the Channel

You have a lot of friends that you don't know personally?

Internet friends!

And to continue with the merry mood, here's a pic I cherish:

(Yes Pianowizard, one day the gas stations too will show litres )

[rkawakami]

Getting more OT: What got me confused on my first trip to Australia was that fuel efficiency was stated in liters/100km (mental conversion to imperial units: quarts per 62 miles; what's with that???). Having grown up with MPG, with a bigger number being "better", this went against what I was used to.

[twistero]

Well, Fahrenheits, inches, miles etc. can have decimals, too. My bathroom scale is in pounds and shows one decimal place, for example.

Personally, I grew up using mostly metrics because I wasn't born in the U.S., but now I have learned to prefer measuring height in feet and inches, and weight in pounds. For distance and length, I have never liked the yard, but am equally comfortable with km and miles, and with cm and inches. For volume, I always use mL and L, except when getting gas because all gas stations in the States show only gallons.

Kudos to you for being adaptable. After several years in the US, I still have to spend a few precious seconds to convert inches to cm in my head, and categorically refuse to work in the heinous imperial liquid volume system.

As for imperial units and decimal... Sure, any unit works with a decimal representation. But: getting from (1.85 meters - 1.75 meters) to (10 centimeters) is an instantaneous conversion. From (6 foot 2 - 5 foot 10) to (4 inches) is not.

In university math and sciences we work primarily in metric

I would have ragequitted college if not. I shudder to think that high school students somewhere have to do physics with inches and feet. And pounds of force? *headdesk*

[twistero]

Getting more OT: What got me confused on my first trip to Australia was that fuel efficiency was stated in liters/100km (mental conversion to imperial units: quarts per 62 miles; what's with that???). Having grown up with MPG, with a bigger number being "better", this went against what I was used to.

Mandatory XKCD:

https://what-if.xkcd.com/11/

In the US, we measure fuel economy in miles/gallon—which could just as easily be written as gallons/mile. (This reciprocal form has some advantages. It’s popular in Europe, where it’s expressed as liters per 100 kilometers.)

But regardless of which units you use, there’s something strange going on here. Miles are units of length, and gallons are volume—which is length^3. So gallons/mile is length^3/ength. That’s just length^2.

Gas mileage is measured in square meters.

You can even plug it into Wolfram|Alpha, and it’ll tell you that 20 MPG is about 0.1 square millimeters (roughly the area of two pixels on a computer screen).

Unit cancellation is weird.

Ok, so what’s the physical interpretation of that number? Is there one?

It turns out there is! If you took all the gas you burned on a trip and stretched it out into a thin tube along your route, 0.1 square millimeters would be the cross-sectional area of that tube.

[Saucey]

Thanks for the laugh guys!
The comic was especially funny, soda becomes disgusting if its in a 2-Liter.

I still think Europe has great gas saving cars, even if UK's gallon is bigger than the USA's.
I'm sure they are better than the US variant, if only we had more diesel hatchbacks here.