4:3 ratio and the iPad

[coolcat37]

Problem is, many people are hypocrites. They complain about low quality and such. But then 5 minutes later, they might complain if a certain product just becomes 50 € more expensive.

Okay, where did you get this information?

[ZaZ]

Okay, where did you get this information?

It's in plain sight. There's way more posts from people looking for the best deal as opposed to those looking for a 4:3 screen or some other feature.

[RealBlackStuff]

For those who like this 20" Panasonic Toughpad 4K, there's a good little-used one for sale on eBay: http://www.ebay.com/itm/301998003996

(I'm not associated with seller).

[evening_hunger]

Too bad Panasonic hasn't done anything in the midrange, like 14'' or 15''... But this is quite impressive.

[pianowizard]

Pianowiz, how close are you to the screen with that horizontally tiled display - can you lean back or are you up close?

Around 1.5 feet from the screen, whether it's a 14.1" SXGA+ (124 DPI) like my Panasonic CF-Y9 or 13.3" FHD (166 DPI) like my Sony Pro 13. I guess all these years of reading small text on smartphones have trained me well! When I use my main desktops' 39.5" 3840x2160 and 27" 2560x1440 monitors, which have pixel densities around 110 DPI, I often lean back pretty far, well over 2 feet from the screen. I do lean forward somewhat closer while I am touching my 27" Acer touchscreen monitor, so that I can hold my arm at a comfortable angle.

On the other hand, when I had a Sony P Series with an 8" 1600x768 screen (222 DPI), I viewed it as if it were a smartphone, typically at barely above one foot. With only 768 pixels vertically, I couldn't afford to lose any vertical real estate by scaling or zooming in.

I was actually looking at it on Panasonic's U.S. site a couple of nights ago, in absolute awe. I've got no use for it but it's impressive nevertheless, on many levels.

I discovered it only about a month ago. I want one, but will wait for prices to drop below $800.

Neither of you believes that Panasonic took a significant risk with the aforementioned monster-tablet?

Absolutely, Panasonic took a huge risk with that tablet. What I interpreted Ibthink to mean was that no one *at Lenovo* wants to take the risk to make a 3:2 laptop. With 7 billion people in the whole world, I am sure he didn't mean "no one on Earth".

16:9 can certainly be productive and is easier for side by side tiling. However, they are less ergonomic since the screen height will be a bit shorter for a similarly sized or even smaller 4:3 displays.

The difference is so subtle that I haven't noticed any difference in terms of ergonomics. That being said, I rarely work on a laptop for more than 2 or 3 hours in one sitting, because I use desktops >95% of the time. Folks who use laptops 8 or more hours a day might benefit from a screen that's 1 - 2 inches taller. But anyone who spends so many hours a day at a computer should do themselves a favor by getting desktop computers, like I did.

[Ibthink]

Absolutely, Panasonic took a huge risk with that tablet. What I interpreted Ibthink to mean was that no one *at Lenovo* wants to take the risk to make a 3:2 laptop. With 7 billion people in the whole world, I am sure he didn't mean "no one on Earth".

Yes, sure, I meant Lenovo. Although I do think this is a mindset prevalent in many parts of the PC industry beyond Lenovo, for years they never really had to do much in terms of innovation and risk. That seems like one of the reasons Microsoft came out of the blue with the Surface in 2012, they couldn´t leave the PC ecosystem just to the OEMs, who failed to really do much for it. You could argue they harmed it even by installing crapware to boost profit, which gave PCs and Windows in general a bad reputation.

Panasonic is a different case from the other PC makers. IMHO they know that they are in a niche and accepted it, and I don´t think they have aspirations to be the leader in PCs in term of number of sales. They don´t want to appeal to "the ordinary consumer", and they don´t have to. That crazy Tablet is really cool. Didn´t know it existed.

[jdk]

http://www.razerzone.com/gaming-keyboar ... e-ipad-pro

Razer just released a mechanical keyboard case for the iPad Pro.

So now you can get a computer with 12" 4:3 IPS display and a backlit mechanical keyboard. It's kind of what I've always wanted.

[Mindfulness Quebec]

"Razer just released a mechanical keyboard case for the iPad Pro"


Nice!

[evening_hunger]

Talkin' about what others have released, there's a new OLED laptop from Alienware: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35fYc_Y376Y
Those folks are apparently keeping with 16:9 tho.

[pianowizard]

Yesterday I was browsing around to see if there are Windows tablets that are slightly bigger than my Thinkpad 8 but still pocketable. There are none, but the search led me to these 4:3 Windows tablets that use the 9.7" QXGA panel of the iPads:

http://www.gearbest.com/tablet-pcs/pp_230777.html

http://www.gearbest.com/tablet-pcs/pp_330509.html

If that X98 Pro had WWAN with U.S. bands, I would be quite interested, even though it's too big for my pockets.

[Puppy]

There are none, but the search led me to these 4:3 Windows tablets that use the 9.7" QXGA panel of the iPads:

These are supposed to use second grade iPad screens so the quality is questionable. It also seems to be infected by a Google/Android traces on BIOS layer which is serious security hole these days.

There is 4:3 HP Pro Tablet 608 G1 8" 2048x1536 with optional LTE WWAN, if you are looking for more square screen.

[pianowizard]

There is 4:3 HP Pro Tablet 608 G1 8" 2048x1536 with optional LTE WWAN, if you are looking for more square screen.

Thanks for the suggestion, but the screen is too small. The Thinkpad 8's screen has a surface area of 199.75 cm^2, whereas this HP is only 191.32 cm^2. Yet, the HP is just too big to be pocketable. I had an iPad Mini 2 very briefly, and found that it fit very tightly in a pocket. Though this HP uses the exact same 7.9" display, it has thicker bezels which make it slightly wider and taller than the iPad Mini 2, so I know it won't fit. If I were to travel with a tablet that's not pocketable, I would rather get something a little bigger. Right now, the Surface 3 (non-Pro model) with 4GB RAM and LTE remains the best option IMO. Too bad prices still haven't gone down much, which is a good sign for Microsoft but not so good for us consumers. I was mildly intrigued by the Teclast X98 Pro because it's somewhat similar to the Surface 3, but much cheaper.

[Puppy]

Too bad prices still haven't gone down much

Someone from US complains about high prices ? Check european ones There is another one clone Onda V919 3G Air that's even cheaper: $159. I would buy that just for fun but the very likely compromised BIOS is deal breaker.