Take a look at our
ThinkPads.com HOME PAGE
For those who might want to contribute to the blog, start here: Editors Alley Topic
Then contact Bill with a Private Message

2007-2010: How did they kill 4:3 and 16:10 panels so quickly?

Talk about "WhatEVER !"..
Post Reply
Sophomore Member
Posts: 170
Joined: Fri Nov 27, 2015 4:21 am
Location: Australia

2007-2010: How did they kill 4:3 and 16:10 panels so quickly?

#1 Post by xsixt » Sun Aug 27, 2017 2:50 am

First 4:3 panels were killed off, sometime around 2007, with the T60/T61 being the last mainstream notebook with a 4:3 panel.

16:10 floated around for a measly 3 or so years before it was also killed off (excluding any Apple discussion here). E.g. W500, T500, possibly the T410 being the last 16:10 Thinkpad.

Does anyone who was involved in the industry, with suppliers etc., know how it specifically unfolded? Did the suppliers, e.g. LG.Philips, Hydis etc., just refuse to continue making non-16:9 panels?

I know there was also an "energy saving" discourse going around at this time which may have had something to do with it, with CCFL being replaced by LED, and an emphasis on less materials. The shift to widescreen panels meant that more could be cut from a wafer of silicon. But that's as much as I remember...
T60p 15" UXGA T7600 | T61p 15.4" WUXGA T9500 |
Former: X61 T8300 [Slow GPU] | W510 FHD QM [Top screen but 16:9 sucks] | T420s [Portable but worst LCD ever] | X201 | X200 | X60T [Slow & hot]

Admin Emeritus
Admin Emeritus
Posts: 19726
Joined: Mon Sep 18, 2006 5:17 am
Location: Mt. Cobb, PA

Re: 2007-2010: How did they kill 4:3 and 16:10 panels so quickly?

#2 Post by RealBlackStuff » Sun Aug 27, 2017 4:17 am

16:9 was designed for the unwashed masses, who just wanted to watch movies on their laptop portable TV.
Enter Netflix and the likes and laptops were turned into portable TVs, and most TVs have 16:9 screens.
No big deal for LCD manufacturers.
And nobody asked the businessmen.
Sad but true.
Lovely day for a Guinness! (the Real Black Stuff). And pigs CAN fly! :mrgreen:
Check out The Boardroom for Parts, Mods and Other Services.

Freshman Member
Posts: 98
Joined: Fri Dec 16, 2016 8:15 pm
Location: Bat Yam, Israel

Re: 2007-2010: How did they kill 4:3 and 16:10 panels so quickly?

#3 Post by fourthree » Sun Aug 27, 2017 8:42 am

There are still 4:3/16:10 panels being made, but I think the more important question is if they will work with your TPad. I haven't seen a lot of discussion about aftermarket panels (sans HV150UX2) around. Panelook has some decent stuff for X6x and W70x, but nobody knows if they will actually work.
Dorkstation: T601f
Ultraportable: X61s

Senior ThinkPadder
Senior ThinkPadder
Posts: 8495
Joined: Tue Jun 28, 2005 5:07 am
Location: Ann Arbor, MI

Re: 2007-2010: How did they kill 4:3 and 16:10 panels so quickly?

#4 Post by pianowizard » Sun Aug 27, 2017 9:25 am

That period also happened to be when the laptop industry was obsessed with making the cheapest possible laptops. The netbook was one of the ideas that they (Asus to be specific) came up with. The other trick was going from 16:10 to 16:9. A 15.4" 16:10 panel has a surface area of 106.59 square inches, while a 15.6" 16:9 panel is 103.99 square inches. The average user thought s/he was getting a larger screen, because 15.6 was a larger number than 15.4. Thus, LCD and laptop makers were able to save a couple dollars by reducing panel size, while fooling consumers into believing they were getting an upgrade, i.e. killing two birds with one stone!

Another reason for the move to 16:9 was that it enabled the industry to use the terms "High Definition" and "Full HD" to market their panels and laptops. For most people, "WXGA", WXGA+", "WSXGA+" and "WUXGA" didn't make sense, but they knew about "HD" and "Full HD" through TV marketing, and "High Definition" sounded great. And the coexistence with netbooks (which were typically 1024x576 or 1024x600) justified calling 1366x768 a "high" resolution.

Though many of us consider that period the dark age of computing, it benefited lots of people who had been unable to afford laptops.
HP Pavilion x2 12 (Core M3-6Y30, 3.14lb); Microsoft Surface 3 (Atom x7-Z8700, 2.00lb)
Dell OptiPlex 5040 SFF (Core i5-6600); HP 8300 Elite tower (Core i7-3770)
Acer ET322QK, T272HUL; Bolva 40BL00H7; Crossover 404K; Dell U2715H, U2711, D2015Hf; Monoprice 10734; QNIX QHD2410R; Seiki Pro SM40UNP

Post Reply
  • Similar Topics
    Last post

Return to “Off-Topic Stuff”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 10 guests