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Home server ideas

#1 Post by Whitieiii » Tue Nov 21, 2017 4:45 pm

What do you recommend for using as a server for an HD home run to record live TV, Plex to save my movies and for backing up all my computers both windows and Mac? Is an Xserve 3,1 or Lenovo X3550/X3650 M3 a good choice or is there a better choice? I'm looking at going with 1-2 TB Disks in raid 0 (for cost) totaling to about 20 TB or more I know it isn't the safest way to setup a raid but bigger disks or more disks just cost too much right now... What can you recommend?
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Re: Home server ideas

#2 Post by axur-delmeria » Thu Nov 23, 2017 11:47 am

I don't think "backup" and "RAID 0" work well together.
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Re: Home server ideas

#3 Post by dr_st » Thu Nov 23, 2017 1:42 pm

Indeed. RAID0 is only for speed (actually, only write speed, as read speed you can get from RAID1 as well). It's completely pointless for anything else and doubles the risk of corruption; just set up your storage without any RAID if you want to save money on drives.
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Re: Home server ideas

#4 Post by Whitieiii » Thu Nov 23, 2017 2:40 pm

I think having 10-20 drives without raid would be harder to manage but that's just me... At my price point and buying drives one at a time until I have all drives I need I'd need 10 2TB drives for raid 0 20 for raid 1 and 30 for raid 5
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Re: Home server ideas

#5 Post by dr_st » Thu Nov 23, 2017 2:58 pm

You're either missing something fundamental or just having some extraordinarily bad ideas.

RAID0 does not give you more storage space. If you need 20TB of storage, then you need 10 2TB drives. If you configure them in RAID0, you still have only 20TB, only with a much higher risk of failure. If you configure them without RAID - you just have 20TB. If you want to configure them in one logical volume to simplify management, you can do it, and you don't need RAID at all.
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Re: Home server ideas

#6 Post by thinkpadcollection » Thu Nov 23, 2017 10:11 pm

SAS controller is good starting point to get redundancy if plugged into PCIe x16 slot, will work at x4 or x8 mode and use one other x1 slot for Pro1000/PT 1Gigabit ethernet with TCP/IP. offload to save on CPU overhead (most important when steaming high bandwidth data) Use processor's iGPU instead. Intel PT ethernet cards are can be had off the ebay for about 25 to 40 each, I have two, very tangible performance improvement even on C2D computer!

Good starting point is HP Z220 ivy bridge up to Xeon with ECC support, which provides 20 lanes vs 16 lanes for i7, i5, i3, Pentium also can do ECC go figure, on socket 1155 with ECC or Z420 for 2011 socket for 40 lanes with support for registered memory, not too bad price off the ebay. Both chassis cases are same, has 3 3.5" bays and 3 5.25" bays or pull the optical drive and use aftermarket rack can be installed in this for extra 5 bays to get 8 drives hung off the SAS controller, use 4TB SAS or 4TB SATA drives. SAS has hardware 5, 10 raid and can handle SATA drives not just SAS. My top pick for enterprise hard drives is HGST or WD for SATA drives currently. (both WD gold 4TB rebranded and HGST 3TB are based on HGST, 2TB is Toshiba based on 1TB platters using HGST as chassis hard drive design. Otherwise use Seagate enterprise grade 4TB SATA or SAS drives.

Best prices on HGST and WD Gold on enterprise grade SATA 4TB both are based off 6TB HGST chassis runs around 200 or bit less US dollars each *new* off ebay. WD Gold p/n: WD4002FYYZ-01B7CB0 or HGST HUS726040ALE610, both are also 128MB buffer.

I bought HP Z220 as starting point and rebuilt into this current configuration based on Micron 16GB ECC (some memory modules has temperature reporting!), Xeon E3-1280V2, 4TB and 3TB, one 2TB unpowered for safekeeping SATA-III, high end video card. At one point will uprate the power supply using ATX to HP power harness adapter or buy Z420 600W PSU. All told is appox 600. Yet to figure into PSU cost.

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