How bright? Toughbook bright.
Hehe...queue Corey Hart! I wear my sunglasses at night so I can so I can use my Toughbook!
How bright? Toughbook bright.
A very good question, which is kind of why I made that list. If it wasn't for my country being ridiculous in terms of paying shipping from the US, it would be the Pavilion ZD8000.pianowizard wrote: ↑Thu Oct 11, 2018 5:56 pmThat's an impressive list of mostly very unique laptops, but if you can pick only one which one would it be?
I hope so, it would be quite interesting to have a 20" laptop to lug around. Hopefully, along with better specifications than a average 17.3" laptop would have.pianowizard wrote: ↑Thu Oct 11, 2018 5:56 pmI remember these. They were the true mobile workstations, unlike the "mobile workstations" that are only 15.4" or 15.6". Too bad back then the highest resolution for widescreen 20" LCD panels was only 1680x1050. If someone resurrects this form factor today, it would have 3840x2160, which would be perfect for a 20" laptop. And it would almost certainly be lighter as well, like 10 lb.
You were interested in the Libretto line-up? Woah, guess I wasn't the only one. I also wanted a Libretto (70CT) for quite a long time before my interest died out, was a great sub-notebook for its time though.pianowizard wrote: ↑Thu Oct 11, 2018 5:56 pmSomehow I was very attracted to Toshiba's equivalents, namely the Libretto series. But I ended up getting Sony's P series, which was also pocketable.
My T601 T9300/8GB/256GB SSD plays 720p60 Youtube videos without single frame drop. It also plays 1080p30 , again without frame drops. Even my T7300 based X61 plays 720p videos without any frame drops. Either we are watching different Youtube, or your T601 is broken.tdot wrote: ↑Thu Oct 11, 2018 7:31 pmAgain, I can't do 720p YouTube without frame skip on a T601. I'm pretty sure 1080p YouTube is a requirement for any *device* to be called modern - as any $100 Chinese tablets and any modern smartphone can handle it. The T601 can't. I'm not saying it can't be useful for some people - but I'm pretty sure for the vast majority, it's just too outdated.
I am surprised this is the one you would have picked, as it seems to be the least special on your list.
Panasonic had a 20" 3840x2560 tablet: https://shop.panasonic.com/home-and-off ... B5025.html . I wish there was a clip-on keyboard for this tablet that would convert it into a laptop!
Oh yeah. I first saw one in person about 15 years ago, when I had a colleague from Japan who used his Libretto at his desk at work, every day. I couldn't believe that he wouldn't even hook it up to an external monitor. A couple years later I saw a newer model at a store in New York City, CompUSA I think.
My interest didn't die out, but the Libretto line did. Fortunately the Sony P series not only continued this form factor but actually improved it (lighter, thinner, and larger keyboard), and that's what I bought. The P series' fairly large keyboard was easy to type on, but unfortuantely the battery lasted 1.5 - 2 hr at most, and the overall performance felt too sluggish. Because of the short battery life, I ended up usually carrying not just the laptop itself but also the not-so-small charger, defeating the purpose of owning a pocketable PC. That's why I replaced it with the Lenovo Thinkpad 8 tablet: viewtopic.php?f=58&t=121458
Well yes, it is the least special out of the rest listed out on my list. Though there are some reasons why I would not want to collect the other machines, mostly due to personal opinions, drawbacks, and upgradability that I would consider when picking the only laptop I would ever collect.pianowizard wrote: ↑Sat Oct 13, 2018 8:40 amI am surprised this is the one you would have picked, as it seems to be the least special on your list.
Fascinating, a 20" tablet sounds kind of overkill and... oh boy the price tag. I also didn't know that the 18.4" laptops were still around, good to know that there are better options than 17.3".pianowizard wrote: ↑Sat Oct 13, 2018 8:40 amPanasonic had a 20" 3840x2560 tablet: https://shop.panasonic.com/home-and-off ... B5025.html . I wish there was a clip-on keyboard for this tablet that would convert it into a laptop!
If we find 17.3" too small, Asus has an 18.4" 3840x2160 laptop: https://www.asus.com/us/Laptops/ROG-GX8 ... ntel-Core/ . It weighs 12.56 lb.
I never knew that someone would actually use a Libretto for work, that is something I would not expect from a Libretto buyer. I guess it was versatile in a way, funny enough.pianowizard wrote: ↑Sat Oct 13, 2018 8:40 amOh yeah. I first saw one in person about 15 years ago, when I had a colleague from Japan who used his Libretto at his desk at work, every day. I couldn't believe that he wouldn't even hook it up to an external monitor. A couple years later I saw a newer model at a store in New York City, CompUSA I think.
Woah, quite a choice you have made to switch from the P series to the ThinkPad 8. Although, it is understandable why you went away from it. I had the same experience as you did with your Sony, but instead with my Fujitsu LifeBook U1010. I had to always make sure that I brought the charger along, or I would be left with a paperweight that ran out of juice.pianowizard wrote: ↑Sat Oct 13, 2018 8:40 amMy interest didn't die out, but the Libretto line did. Fortunately the Sony P series not only continued this form factor but actually improved it (lighter, thinner, and larger keyboard), and that's what I bought. The P series' fairly large keyboard was easy to type on, but unfortuantely the battery lasted 1.5 - 2 hr at most, and the overall performance felt too sluggish. Because of the short battery life, I ended up usually carrying not just the laptop itself but also the not-so-small charger, defeating the purpose of owning a pocketable PC. That's why I replaced it with the Lenovo Thinkpad 8 tablet: viewtopic.php?f=58&t=121458
I work as a sysadmin so I have the choice on what machine I can work on. For the last few days I have been using my T61 upgraded with an ssd and currently 2GB memory on Arch Linux. Its not as zippy as a T480 but definitely more that an enough for my daily task which is basically SSH, browser, email and im client. No moviesajkula66 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 11, 2018 8:03 pmUgh.tdot wrote: ↑Thu Oct 11, 2018 7:31 pmI have a hard time believing a T601 would even be okay for simple and basic home user tasks these days such as Netflix. Again, I can't do 720p YouTube without frame skip on a T601. I'm pretty sure 1080p YouTube is a requirement for any *device* to be called modern - as any $100 Chinese tablets and any modern smartphone can handle it. The T601 can't. I'm not saying it can't be useful for some people - but I'm pretty sure for the vast majority, it's just too outdated.
I can pretty much guarantee that you'll find dozens of folks running *61 platform around here who will testify that neither Netflix nor 720p YT are a problem within W7 realm on a *properly set* system.
This Asus ROG GX800 might be the only 18.4-incher still available. For a while there were a fair number but all were only 1920x1080 or even 1680x945. Hopefully more 18.4" UHD laptops will become available. The Asus GX800 isn't for me because it's way too heavy and huge. With the bezel minimized, an 18.4" laptop would be about the same size as some 17.3-inchers, and I can visualize myself owning one.
Compared to the Sony P, the Thinkpad 8 was faster, had a larger screen and higher resolution, had WWAN, and lasted ~6 hr on a single charge. I traveled with it a couple times but eventually decided that it's still too uncomfortable to use. So about 1.5 years ago I upgraded further to the Microsoft Surface 3.Screamer wrote: ↑Sat Oct 13, 2018 12:44 pmWoah, quite a choice you have made to switch from the P series to the ThinkPad 8. Although, it is understandable why you went away from it. I had the same experience as you did with your Sony, but instead with my Fujitsu LifeBook U1010. I had to always make sure that I brought the charger along, or I would be left with a paperweight that ran out of juice.
I have never liked docking stations because they take up so much desk space. To maximize desk space I use desktop computers: the computer on the floor, the keyboard on a slide-out tray underneath the desk, and the monitor pushed all the way against the wall.
Well, this is just individual. Also, some docking stations (e.g. for lifebooks) were way better size-optimized than those for ThinkPads. This is one of the reason why my GF does not want to get her s7220 away. That thing just refuses to die and has a very nice and compact docking station.pianowizard wrote: ↑Tue Oct 16, 2018 8:01 amI have never liked docking stations because they take up so much desk space. To maximize desk space I use desktop computers: the computer on the floor, the keyboard on a slide-out tray underneath the desk, and the monitor pushed all the way against the wall.
Wow that's a very favorable feature I never considered before. I do still play DOOM and DOOM2 now and then, so the full DOS compatibility including sound is helpful. And of course the 1600x1200 resolution makes the A21p still fairly useful today for text-based work.
A22p has the same CS4624 audio controller, so the answer is yespianowizard wrote: ↑Fri Jan 04, 2019 9:33 amA QUESTION FOR EVERYONE: do you know if the A22p also fully supports "pure" DOS?
The resolution limit for VGA outputs is always stated as 2048x1536 or less, but on my QNIX QHD2410R and Monoprice 10734 monitors I have had success getting 2560x1440 and 2560x1600 from most VGA ports I've tested, even ancient ones.
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