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Re: OK, now we descend into the STOLEN election

#421 Post by ajkula66 » Tue Jan 26, 2021 12:31 pm

mpcook wrote:
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they tried to steal the election by storming the US Capitol.
You mean reverse the outcome of the one that was stolen ?

It didn't work out too well for those involved, unlike their BLM counterparts.
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Re: OK, now we descend into the STOLEN election

#422 Post by mpcook » Tue Jan 26, 2021 1:08 pm

ajkula66 wrote:
Tue Jan 26, 2021 12:31 pm
mpcook wrote:
Tue Jan 26, 2021 7:23 am
they tried to steal the election by storming the US Capitol.
You mean reverse the outcome of the one that was stolen ?

It didn't work out too well for those involved, unlike their BLM counterparts.
That's not what I meant at all :-) It was the attempted steal / subversion / insurrection / coup by the former president and his co-conspirators that failed. I believe many more BLM rioters were arrested vs. Capitol insurrectionists, but maybe the numbers will equalize as the FBI analyzes all the social media posts by the Capitol rioters. (Really? Posting your illegal activity live on Facebook??)
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Re: OK, now we descend into the STOLEN election

#423 Post by dr_st » Tue Jan 26, 2021 3:29 pm

mpcook wrote:
Tue Jan 26, 2021 1:08 pm
It was the attempted steal / subversion / insurrection / coup by the former president and his co-conspirators that failed.
If that was a coup attempt, it was most definitely the worst attempt in history. :lol:
mpcook wrote:
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I believe many more BLM rioters were arrested vs. Capitol insurrectionists
That's probably because there had been many more BLM riots, and a much higher total damage to people and property caused during said riots. :wink:
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Re: OK, now we descend into the STOLEN election

#424 Post by mpcook » Tue Jan 26, 2021 3:44 pm

dr_st wrote:
Tue Jan 26, 2021 3:29 pm
mpcook wrote:
Tue Jan 26, 2021 1:08 pm
It was the attempted steal / subversion / insurrection / coup by the former president and his co-conspirators that failed.
If that was a coup attempt, it was most definitely the worst attempt in history. :lol:
mpcook wrote:
Tue Jan 26, 2021 1:08 pm
I believe many more BLM rioters were arrested vs. Capitol insurrectionists
That's probably because there had been many more BLM riots, and a much higher total damage to people and property caused during said riots. :wink:
Yes, I agree it was a poorly organized attempt at a coup. But an attempt nonetheless. By idiots with Facebook video rolling.

Just comparing the number of arrests in DC in one day - "On June 1 alone, more than five times the number of people were arrested than on the day the Capitol was stormed, with 289 people booked." "a spattering of smashed windows and vandalized businesses" on that day vs. a violent attempt to disrupt the Congressional election certification with damage to the Capitol, beating of police, and 5 deaths.
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Re: OK, now we descend into the STOLEN election

#425 Post by dr_st » Tue Jan 26, 2021 4:53 pm

mpcook wrote:
Tue Jan 26, 2021 3:44 pm
Just comparing the number of arrests in DC in one day - "On June 1 alone, more than five times the number of people were arrested than on the day the Capitol was stormed, with 289 people booked."
Would June 1st be the day when the "mostly peaceful protestors" set fire to St. John's church? Oh, no, that was the day before. :lol:

Maybe the discrepancy in the number of arrests can suggest that the "peaceful protests" were not as peaceful, and the "violent attempt" was not as violent as the mainstream media (and Wikipedia's editors who diligently copy the reports of said media) are telling you?

Nah, it's gotta be because the DC cops are siding with the "terrorists and insurrectionists". I mean, we do have that video of that guy showing them where to go.

How many businesses were vandalized by the "QAnon insurrectionists" anyways during the day they "stormed capitol". Many? None? In any case we all know that vandalizing businesses is a legitimate way to protest against, well, whatever; stealing Nancy Pelosi's whatchamacallit, though - that's a big no-no, and a true threat to democracy.
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Re: OK, now we descend into the STOLEN election

#426 Post by cadillacmike68 » Tue Jan 26, 2021 11:32 pm

mpcook wrote:
Tue Jan 26, 2021 1:08 pm
ajkula66 wrote:
Tue Jan 26, 2021 12:31 pm


You mean reverse the outcome of the one that was stolen ?

It didn't work out too well for those involved, unlike their BLM counterparts.
That's not what I meant at all :-) It was the attempted steal / subversion / insurrection / coup by the former president and his co-conspirators that failed. I believe many more BLM rioters were arrested vs. Capitol insurrectionists, but maybe the numbers will equalize as the FBI analyzes all the social media posts by the Capitol rioters. (Really? Posting your illegal activity live on Facebook??)


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Re: OK, now we descend into the STOLEN election

#427 Post by mpcook » Wed Jan 27, 2021 7:18 am

dr_st wrote:
Tue Jan 26, 2021 4:53 pm
mpcook wrote:
Tue Jan 26, 2021 3:44 pm
Just comparing the number of arrests in DC in one day - "On June 1 alone, more than five times the number of people were arrested than on the day the Capitol was stormed, with 289 people booked."
Would June 1st be the day when the "mostly peaceful protestors" set fire to St. John's church? Oh, no, that was the day before. :lol:

Maybe the discrepancy in the number of arrests can suggest that the "peaceful protests" were not as peaceful, and the "violent attempt" was not as violent as the mainstream media (and Wikipedia's editors who diligently copy the reports of said media) are telling you?

Nah, it's gotta be because the DC cops are siding with the "terrorists and insurrectionists". I mean, we do have that video of that guy showing them where to go.

How many businesses were vandalized by the "QAnon insurrectionists" anyways during the day they "stormed capitol". Many? None? In any case we all know that vandalizing businesses is a legitimate way to protest against, well, whatever; stealing Nancy Pelosi's whatchamacallit, though - that's a big no-no, and a true threat to democracy.
Yes June 1 was the day Trump had the peaceful protesters gassed and beaten so he could peacably walk down to the church to hold up the upside-down bible.

And BTW, I have not heard any Democrats, citizens nor politicians, support the rioting, damage and injury done during the BLM protests.

However, there has been a good deal of justification lately for the rioting, damage and injury (and death and threat of death) done in the name - literally - of President Trump. The numbers 2, 3 and 4 in line to the presidency were in the Capitol building as people were attacking the building and threatening them with physical harm. IMO that is not equivalent to a street riot, but I can understand the arguments on that point either way.
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Re: OK, now we descend into the STOLEN election

#428 Post by mpcook » Wed Jan 27, 2021 7:19 am

cadillacmike68 wrote:
Tue Jan 26, 2021 11:32 pm
mpcook wrote:
Tue Jan 26, 2021 1:08 pm


That's not what I meant at all :-) It was the attempted steal / subversion / insurrection / coup by the former president and his co-conspirators that failed. I believe many more BLM rioters were arrested vs. Capitol insurrectionists, but maybe the numbers will equalize as the FBI analyzes all the social media posts by the Capitol rioters. (Really? Posting your illegal activity live on Facebook??)


You need to get off the kool aid.
You have clearly drunk the orange kool-aid. :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: OK, now we descend into the STOLEN election

#429 Post by shawross » Wed Jan 27, 2021 7:30 am

The "kool aid" is media programming and is quite effective as we can witness on these threads.

The MSM shills will spruik what they have been programmed to think.
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Re: OK, now we descend into the STOLEN election

#430 Post by TPFanatic » Wed Jan 27, 2021 8:09 am

mpcook wrote:
Wed Jan 27, 2021 7:18 am
And BTW, I have not heard any Democrats, citizens nor politicians, support the rioting, damage and injury done during the BLM protests.
It is taboo for Democrats to even acknowledge these things happen so they ignore it, unless/until it happens in their own neighborhoods.
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Re: OK, now we descend into the STOLEN election

#431 Post by mpcook » Wed Jan 27, 2021 8:12 am

TPFanatic wrote:
Wed Jan 27, 2021 8:09 am
mpcook wrote:
Wed Jan 27, 2021 7:18 am
And BTW, I have not heard any Democrats, citizens nor politicians, support the rioting, damage and injury done during the BLM protests.
It is taboo for Democrats to even acknowledge these things happen so they ignore it, unless/until it happens in their own neighborhoods.
Kind of like the Retrumplikins denying the attack on the Capitol and those within.
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Re: OK, now we descend into the STOLEN election

#432 Post by TPFanatic » Wed Jan 27, 2021 8:49 am

mpcook wrote:
Wed Jan 27, 2021 8:12 am
Kind of like the Retrumplikins denying the attack on the Capitol and those within.
No, they were just visiting the Capitol!
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Re: OK, now we descend into the STOLEN election

#433 Post by mpcook » Wed Jan 27, 2021 8:52 am

TPFanatic wrote:
Wed Jan 27, 2021 8:49 am
mpcook wrote:
Wed Jan 27, 2021 8:12 am
Kind of like the Retrumplikins denying the attack on the Capitol and those within.
No, they were just visiting the Capitol!
Proud Boys organized a guided tour. Post your videos on FB for the folks back home.
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Re: OK, now we descend into the STOLEN election

#434 Post by RealBlackStuff » Tue Feb 02, 2021 12:50 am

It's not over yet...
And by the way, when are they going to get rid of that turtle McConnell?
Or better even, disband the GOP.

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Re: OK, now we descend into the STOLEN election

#435 Post by dr_st » Tue Feb 02, 2021 6:32 am

RealBlackStuff wrote:
Tue Feb 02, 2021 12:50 am
I just did a simple web search, and now I have the same map too. Maybe I'm in cahoots with them? I got my map from Bloomberg.com. Is that a known right-wing extremist site? :lol:

Why don't people read just a tad beneath the surface, instead of staying on the level of eye-catching headlines? :??:
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#436 Post by TPFanatic » Tue Feb 02, 2021 8:52 am

Conservatives always exude the importance of context when it helps them, as it does here as well. They obviously wanted the maps so they could tour the tunnels during their visit. :)
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Re: OK, now we descend into the STOLEN election

#437 Post by cadillacmike68 » Tue Feb 02, 2021 3:55 pm

TPFanatic wrote:
Wed Jan 27, 2021 8:09 am
mpcook wrote:
Wed Jan 27, 2021 7:18 am
And BTW, I have not heard any Democrats, citizens nor politicians, support the rioting, damage and injury done during the BLM protests.
It is taboo for Democrats to even acknowledge these things happen so they ignore it, unless/until it happens in their own neighborhoods.


The libtards have even degenerated into ignoring it in their own backyards; look as the Northwest, where they are STILL rioting and burning things down.
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Re: OK, now we descend into the STOLEN election

#438 Post by cadillacmike68 » Tue Feb 02, 2021 3:56 pm

dr_st wrote:
Tue Feb 02, 2021 6:32 am
RealBlackStuff wrote:
Tue Feb 02, 2021 12:50 am
I just did a simple web search, and now I have the same map too. Maybe I'm in cahoots with them? I got my map from Bloomberg.com. Is that a known right-wing extremist site? :lol:

Why don't people read just a tad beneath the surface, instead of staying on the level of eye-catching headlines? :??:


Eye-catching FALSE headlines. pmsnbc and cnn are worse than the 70s tabloids
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Re: OK, now we descend into the STOLEN election

#439 Post by mpcook » Tue Feb 02, 2021 4:03 pm

cadillacmike68 wrote:
Tue Feb 02, 2021 3:55 pm
TPFanatic wrote:
Wed Jan 27, 2021 8:09 am


It is taboo for Democrats to even acknowledge these things happen so they ignore it, unless/until it happens in their own neighborhoods.


The libtards have even degenerated into ignoring it in their own backyards; look as the Northwest, where they are STILL rioting and burning things down.
Trumplikins now ignoring the insurrection at the Capitol, fealty now to Trump, not to the democratic process.
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Re: OK, now we descend into the STOLEN election

#440 Post by cadillacmike68 » Wed Feb 03, 2021 4:18 pm

mpcook wrote:
Tue Feb 02, 2021 4:03 pm
cadillacmike68 wrote:
Tue Feb 02, 2021 3:55 pm


The libtards have even degenerated into ignoring it in their own backyards; look as the Northwest, where they are STILL rioting and burning things down.
Trumplikins now ignoring the insurrection at the Capitol, fealty now to Trump, not to the democratic process.


Oh yeah, the democratic process of stuffing the ballot boxes with fraudulent mail in ballots.
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#441 Post by TPFanatic » Wed Feb 03, 2021 9:06 pm

cadillacmike68 wrote:
Wed Feb 03, 2021 4:18 pm
mpcook wrote:
Tue Feb 02, 2021 4:03 pm
Trumplikins now ignoring the insurrection at the Capitol, fealty now to Trump, not to the democratic process.


Oh yeah, the democratic process of stuffing the ballot boxes with fraudulent mail in ballots.
Yes, and here is the proof!
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#442 Post by mpcook » Wed Feb 03, 2021 9:16 pm

TPFanatic wrote:
Wed Feb 03, 2021 9:06 pm
cadillacmike68 wrote:
Wed Feb 03, 2021 4:18 pm


Oh yeah, the democratic process of stuffing the ballot boxes with fraudulent mail in ballots.
Yes, and here is the proof!
That's all there is?
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Re: OK, now we descend into the STOLEN election

#443 Post by dr_st » Thu Feb 04, 2021 4:33 am

I guess... It's really hard for an individual voter to use the mail-in system to commit any significant fraud. At best you get a second fraudulent vote, as discussed in those articles.

To get a mass injection of fraudulent ballots you have to "break" the counting points. You have to somehow get a whole lot of ballots "cleared" without proper verification of validity, and at that point it becomes much harder (in some cases probably impossible) to track down the source of each ballot and whether it is fraudulent or not.

Since, as far as I understand, mail-in ballots are validated and counted en masse in a select few locations, it definitely makes them more susceptible to organized fraud. That's unlike in-person voting, where each group of voters is tied to a specific polling location, and votes are separately counted and the totals are signed off by the poll watchers at each polling point.

So, yeah, regardless of the fact whether substantial voter fraud has taken place, and whether it was enough to directly affect the swing states, the American voting system seems to be badly broken in a variety of ways. Not just the mail-in stuff, but also the fact that it's not so hard to register as a voter in multiple states, etc.

I think it all boils down to the fact that there exist no proper federal-level registries and IDs for citizens - it's all at the state level. The only federal ID I know of is the SSN, and that is considered secret and is never used for anything other than social security stuff.

Not just the voting, but many things are broken because of that it seems. Like marriage registration - you can totally marry 50 different people in 50 different states, as I was once told.

Running a country that's also a collection of partially independent states is certainly challenging.
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Re: OK, now we descend into the STOLEN election

#444 Post by TPFanatic » Thu Feb 04, 2021 9:02 am

dr_st wrote:
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The only federal ID I know of is the SSN, and that is considered secret and is never used for anything other than social security stuff.
The last 4 digits are free beer.
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Re: OK, now we descend into the STOLEN election

#445 Post by mpcook » Thu Feb 04, 2021 9:07 am

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Running a country that's also a collection of partially independent states is certainly challenging.
Yes but we like it that way. And since all state and federal election officials and those with responsibility to investigate, prevent and/or indict election fraud have agreed that the certifications were appropriate and the fraudulent votes were rare, we can move on.
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Re: OK, now we descend into the STOLEN election

#446 Post by cadillacmike68 » Thu Feb 04, 2021 10:49 am

SSNs used to be the DL # in many states. The Military REQUIRED us to have it imprinted or written on all checks we use to pay for anything at exchanges, commissaries, fuel stations, etc. This was all before the massive ID theft issues arose and the use of paying by checks fell way off.

And, SSNs are issued to non-residents for income tax purposes.

A Nationwide citizen ID is desperately needed here.
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Re: OK, now we descend into the STOLEN election

#447 Post by mpcook » Thu Feb 04, 2021 10:58 am

cadillacmike68 wrote:
Thu Feb 04, 2021 10:49 am
SSNs used to be the DL # in many states. The Military REQUIRED us to have it imprinter or written on all checks we use to pay for anything at exchanges, commissaries, fuel stations, etc. This was all before the massive ID theft issues arose and the use of paying by checks fell way off.

And, SSNs are issued to non-residents for income tax purposes.

A Nationwide citizen ID is desperately needed here.
I just got my Covid vaccine so Bill Gates now knows where I am at all times. I've been told I will get my Windows 10 updates neurologically now. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Throwing a national ID# into a federal database for voting purposes sounds great. Except maybe not.
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Re: OK, now we descend into the STOLEN election

#448 Post by dr_st » Thu Feb 04, 2021 11:15 am

mpcook wrote:
Thu Feb 04, 2021 10:58 am
I just got my Covid vaccine so Bill Gates now knows where I am at all times. I've been told I will get my Windows 10 updates neurologically now. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Only if you got both doses. Because the first one only contains the 5G antenna. The RF chip is in the second one. :mrgreen:
mpcook wrote:
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Throwing a national ID# into a federal database for voting purposes sounds great. Except maybe not.
It sounds normal to anyone who lives in a single-state country. Not just for voting.

Here - the national ID # is used for everything and no one keeps it secret. It's used for everything so much, that you can't actually do anything if you just find out someone's ID number. You need a whole bunch of other supporting stuff (in some cases - the physical ID document - that one you should keep safe). Identity theft cases are apparently not as common here.
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Re: OK, now we descend into the STOLEN election

#449 Post by cadillacmike68 » Thu Feb 04, 2021 11:41 am

mpcook wrote:
Thu Feb 04, 2021 10:58 am
cadillacmike68 wrote:
Thu Feb 04, 2021 10:49 am
SSNs used to be the DL # in many states. The Military REQUIRED us to have it imprinted or written on all checks we use to pay for anything at exchanges, commissaries, fuel stations, etc. This was all before the massive ID theft issues arose and the use of paying by checks fell way off.

And, SSNs are issued to non-residents for income tax purposes.

A Nationwide citizen ID is desperately needed here.
I just got my Covid vaccine so Bill Gates now knows where I am at all times. I've been told I will get my Windows 10 updates neurologically now. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Throwing a national ID# into a federal database for voting purposes sounds great. Except maybe not.


As long as it is not a microshaft database. Gates has turned into a real bozo over the years. Just remember microsoft sucks and win blows.

Yeah I know dr_st doesn't like me using that phase, but he can always delete or edit the post.
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Re: OK, now we descend into the STOLEN election

#450 Post by dr_st » Thu Feb 04, 2021 11:49 am

cadillacmike68 wrote:
Thu Feb 04, 2021 11:41 am
As long as it is not a microshaft database. Gates has turned into a real bozo over the years. Just remember microsoft sucks and win blows.

Yeah I know dr_st doesn't like me using that phase, but he can always delete or edit the post.
I don't like these phrases used in technical discussions, because they are, well, just unprofessional. But this thread is basically just back and forth trolling, so why not? :lol:

I like Bill Gates. I think he's a good guy.
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