unixed wrote:The vaccines facilitate the manufacture of antibodies by your body
This statement is not necessarily correct. I posted about this on the original thread that George started. I will copy here.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-08-23/ ... s/12571462
" What is "convalescent plasma".
This is something that is naturally occurring in our bodies and it is why we cope with viruses naturally, You know it as herd immunity.
When a virus passes around our communities our bodies get introduced to the virus and then we build antibodies to fight the virus.
If we are healthy we store those antibodies to fight the virus in case it appears again. If someone who is unhealthy gets the virus and can't
cope they can get a plasma transfusion that came from a healthy person to help them recover.
Then ideally they will start to produce their own antibodies as they recover.
This is the way herd immunity is meant to work.
This is the way nature was designed to work and it has been that way for up to 200,000 years.
Herd immunity works when we mix and interact with other people. We are not meant to self distance or wear masks that drop your blood oxygen levels.
Also if we get sunlight that vitamin D helps our recovery and anyone who has recovered from the flu learns this.
Red Cross Australia wrote:
COVID-19 Vaccine and Convalescent Plasma Donor Eligibility Information
Individuals who have received a COVID-19 vaccine are not able to donate convalescent plasma with the Red Cross.
However, these individuals may be eligible to donate other blood products with the Red Cross including whole blood and platelets if they meet other donation eligibility criteria.
The above text is what the Red Cross posted on their website before "convalescent plasma" went viral. Consequently the Red Cross doesn't think that vaccinated people are producing these antibodies that normally get produced in the blood plasma.
Hopefully the vaccine will fight the virus but that is not a given because the vaccine is in clinical trial. But we can maybe assume that it will fight the virus
but I doubt you will produce antibodies.
In Australia we have the "Therapeutic Goods Administration" which provides reports and the following was from a report back in May.
To 23 May 2021, 3.6 million doses of COVID-19 vaccines have been given in Australia. In this period, the TGA has received 210 reports of deaths following immunisation – 109 have been reported for the Pfizer vaccine, 94 for the AstraZeneca vaccine and seven where the vaccine was not specified. Most of these reports (93%) were for people 65 years of age and over, and over three quarters were 75 years of age and over. Many of the deaths relate to elderly aged-care residents.
https://www.tga.gov.au/periodic/covid-1 ... 27-05-2021
To that stage we only had one death from covid this year but since that date we have had 3 more covid deaths in NSW.
But because the above statement from the TGA has been causing vaccine hesitancy they have stopped posting the death count from vaccines in their report.
I have been told that 350 people have so far died after taking vaccines in Australia till now but I can't confirm that.
Also in Australia we haven't had a lessening of restrictions for vaccinated people.
So is the new Delta variant due to vaccines? I don't have enough information to answer that question yet.
I know in the US they use the Vaers reporting system but I don't know about the UK. I don't know where you are sourcing your information from.