Gas prices?

Message

ThinkPad · #1 Post by **ThinkPad** » Sun Apr 23, 2006 8:36 pm

What is the gas price is your area? At the rate it is shooting up I expect the summer to be a bad time to be driving. Towards the inner city premium has gone up to $3.30.
I just filled up one tank and cost about $50, and this occurs twice a week.

#2 Post by **jdhurst** » Sun Apr 23, 2006 9:17 pm

Life in the fast lane, so just grin and bear it. Same price as I pay where I live, and anyone overseas is just going to laugh at us - gas is cheap in North America. I drive less and use public transit so my gasoline budget is not escalating at the same rate as prices. ... JD Hurst

#3 Post by **bill bolton** » Sun Apr 23, 2006 9:25 pm

jdhurst wrote:anyone overseas is just going to laugh at us - gas is cheap in North America.

It's AUD$1.40 (~USD$1.03) a litre for 91 octane, unleaded petrol in Sydney at the moment.... roughly equivalent to USD$3.92 a US gallon.

Cheers,

Bill

#4 Post by **AlphaKilo470** » Sun Apr 23, 2006 9:27 pm

Gas is around 3 bucks per gallon here in the Atlanta suburbs. I try to use the commuter train to avoid the highway and having to worry about the overpriced parking in the city (as opposed to the free parking at the train station) but as for gas savings, it's only so much because the closest train station is still a 10 to 30 minute (depending on traffic) drive from my house.

JHEM · #5 Post by **JHEM** » Sun Apr 23, 2006 9:30 pm

jdhurst wrote:Life in the fast lane, so just grin and bear it. Same price as I pay where I live, and anyone overseas is just going to laugh at us - gas is cheap in North America.

Gas costs just about the same in EU/UK as it does in NA.

The differences arise in the taxes that are added at the pump. The even greater difference is what's done with the taxes collected.

In NA the taxes are used to build more roads and maintain the existing ones.

In EU/UK more than half of the taxes go to support their magnificent mass transit system.

Of course, in the US, we can thank General Motors for consipiring with local governments and vested interests to kill the Interurban Rail system.

http://www.lovearth.net/gmdeliberatelydestroyed.htm

Regards,

James

ThinkPad · #6 Post by **ThinkPad** » Sun Apr 23, 2006 9:32 pm

jdhurst wrote:anyone overseas is just going to laugh at us - gas is cheap in North America.

That is true, I remember the gasoline price in Spain was around $4.30 for one US gallon and thinking that was crazy.
I think we take our US prices for granted, but nonetheless its quite an expense.

smugiri · #7 Post by **smugiri** » Sun Apr 23, 2006 9:44 pm

Out here in Ontario, this is where we are:

Effectively $5.1143 a gallon since this price is in litres.

#8 Post by **AlphaKilo470** » Sun Apr 23, 2006 9:45 pm

JHEM wrote:Of course, in the US, we can thank General Motors for consipiring with local governments and vested interests to kill the Interurban Rail system.

Not here in Atlanta. Here in Atlanta decent transit was killed off in the late 1970's when all of the suburban counties decided to change their minds about the plans for a mass transit system and blocked MARTA (Metropolitan Atlanta Rapid Transit Authority) from entering their borders due to fears that the train would allow the population of bums to expand beyond the city limits and thus I have to drive 20 minutes to get to the train station to go into Atlanta.

#9 Post by **bill bolton** » Sun Apr 23, 2006 9:46 pm

JHEM wrote:JOf course, in the US, we can thank General Motors for consipiring with local governments and vested interests to kill the Interurban Rail system.

http://www.lovearth.net/gmdeliberatelydestroyed.htm

The Snell position is primarily based on a very idealogical interpretation rather than a even handed analysis of the facts. Even in the heavy-duty public transport advocacy space there are many who give it no serious credence.

There is certainly a road-warrior anti-public transport cabal operating in the US, but even in the period that Snell "investigated" it was a very much more broadly based set of interests than Snell tries to imply.

Cheers,

Bill

#10 Post by **Kyocera** » Sun Apr 23, 2006 9:57 pm

Of course, in the US, we can thank General Motors for consipiring with local governments and vested interests to kill the Interurban Rail system.

Most americans have no desire to ride a train, how would soccer moms fit into that whole riding in a train thing? They want to burn some gas.

JHEM · #11 Post by **JHEM** » Sun Apr 23, 2006 10:09 pm

Streetcars and interurban rail lines are hardly "trains" in the US sense.

The only folks in the US who truly understand how useful and convenient these systems can be to life are those blessed with a working subway or trolley system in their city and suburbs.

Regards,

James

#12 Post by **Kyocera** » Sun Apr 23, 2006 10:15 pm

OK, most Americans don't want to ride "anything" but thier own personal vehicle, to include bus, train, etc.

Dell built a plant here and part of the extravagense was a bus line for the workers, as reported in the news no one rides it. Kind of hard to blame GM for that.

#13 Post by **AlphaKilo470** » Sun Apr 23, 2006 10:35 pm

Here in the Atlanta suburbs, it's really not so much people wanting to ride in thier own vehicle so much as it is that most people in the suburbs are paranoid about the bums and thugs in the city and they fear that if the MARTA transit system ran up to here, that we would have a higher crime rate.

Website · #14 Post by **tfflivemb2** » Sun Apr 23, 2006 11:43 pm

$2.99 in cheeseland. By the way, Thinkpad, I have used the exact same gas station that is listed on your receipt.

I used to have to rely heavily on the Metra system in Chicago, when I lived near Gurnee, IL (Six Flags). I had a 2 hour 15 minute commute, portal to portal. I could drive the entire way and have saved a little bit of time, but even then the gas prices were too much. (~$2.00)

Now that I have a Durango, I limit my driving if I have to work out of town. I will let my wife use the Durango and I will drive her Intrepid for trips more than 30 minutes away. (Cozy little Dodge family here)

#15 Post by **draco2527** » Mon Apr 24, 2006 1:28 am

Thinkpad! Why Gold?

I was a "Silver" for two tanks and a "Gold" for every third. Since last years $3+/Gal I have been an 87 Oct. ONLY!

Today I paid $2.95/Gal for regular! I pump about 22Gal/fillup so this is hurting me bad!!! I drive more then 60 miles per day just to go and come back from work, if I go anywere else.....then I am sol.

Oh well, live and learn!...

AIX · #16 Post by **AIX** » Mon Apr 24, 2006 1:31 am

Romania - ~$4.46 for one US gallon (3.78 l), 95 octane. (~0.95€ / l)

ambientscape · #17 Post by **ambientscape** » Mon Apr 24, 2006 2:17 am

The petrol prices in my country just rises from ( RM 1.62) USD 0.43 to recently ( RM 1.92) USD 0.51 per litre. The petrol in my country is partly subsidized by the government...and we enjoyed some benefits here. There are people who get angry with the recent rise of petrol prices....

#18 Post by **daeojkim** » Mon Apr 24, 2006 4:01 am

In America and we strongly believe that gasoline should be cheaper than water.

krma-thkpds · #19 Post by **krma-thkpds** » Mon Apr 24, 2006 5:18 am

0,99 euro for 1 litre here in Slovenia.

#20 Post by **jdhurst** » Mon Apr 24, 2006 7:58 am

smugiri wrote:Out here in Ontario, this is where we are:
<snipped picture shows 1.125 $Cdn per litre>
Effectively $5.1143 a gallon since this price is in litres.

It's not quite that bad (I live in Ontario as well). 1.125 $Cdn is approximately $0.95 $US per litre. There are 3.785 litres in a US gallon, so that is $3.62 $US per US gallon. ... JD Hurst

AIX · #21 Post by **AIX** » Mon Apr 24, 2006 9:11 am

What octane? Here you can find only 95+ octane gasoline (95, 98 - 100). The most common type is 95 one.

From wikipedia:
"87 octane fuel, the "normal" gasoline in the US and Canada, would be 91 in Europe."

I don't think you can fuel your BMW (let's say) with 87 octane gas.

JHEM · #22 Post by **JHEM** » Mon Apr 24, 2006 9:30 am

US$4.30 a gallon yesterday for 100LL avgas!

US$4.10 for JetA!

Both of those prices are considered relatively cheap.

Regards,

James

Toine · #23 Post by **Toine** » Mon Apr 24, 2006 10:15 am

Hahaha, you guys. I pay TWICE what the TS payes here for my gass. And that's 95 gazeline, so not even the good stuff.

bhtooefr · #24 Post by **bhtooefr** » Mon Apr 24, 2006 10:25 am

I drive a dying Jetta diesel. (well, when it runs...

)

50 MPG in it's prime.

And, if I ever got off my butt and made some biodiesel, it would've been under $1 per gallon for fuel.

leoblob · #25 Post by **leoblob** » Mon Apr 24, 2006 10:30 am

For those of you in the US, this link will help you find the lowest gas price around where you live: http://autos.msn.com/everyday/gasstatio ... =&src=Netx

IMO, the only solution to the problem is to drive less. (I know, easier said than done.)

smugiri · #26 Post by **smugiri** » Mon Apr 24, 2006 11:01 am

jdhurst wrote:
smugiri wrote:Out here in Ontario, this is where we are:
<snipped picture shows 1.125 $Cdn per litre>
Effectively $5.1143 a gallon since this price is in litres.
It's not quite that bad (I live in Ontario as well). 1.125 $Cdn is approximately $0.95 $US per litre. There are 3.785 litres in a US gallon, so that is $3.62 $US per US gallon. ... JD Hurst

Opppsss, forgot about that pesky 1.15 conversion factor, I lived in the US until about a year ago and still think in US $.

Thanks for catching that JD.

dsvochak · #27 Post by **dsvochak** » Mon Apr 24, 2006 11:02 am

JHEM wrote:

Streetcars and interurban rail lines are hardly "trains" in the US sense.

The only folks in the US who truly understand how useful and convenient these systems can be to life are those blessed with a working subway or trolley system in their city and suburbs.

Which is a fact. The problem is, as best I can recall, the only cities with "...a working subway or trolley system in their city" are those like New York or downtown Chicago where geography and population density make owning, driving or parking an almost unreasonable thing to do.

The only accurate measurement for cost of anything is the amount of labor (in time) required to earn the purchase price. When the oil crunches happened in the 70's and 80's, wages were still rising at about the rate prices were rising. Unfortunately, that's no longer the case.

There was a story on CNN last week about a woman in the New York City area who pawned her car because she can't afford gas. Luckily, she's got the subway as an alternative. Unfortunately, most of us don't.

smugiri · #28 Post by **smugiri** » Mon Apr 24, 2006 11:04 am

JHEM wrote:US$4.30 a gallon yesterday for 100LL avgas!

US$4.10 for JetA!

Both of those prices are considered relatively cheap.

Regards,

James

Commuting in a Gulfstream 550 maybe?

Pictures please, this is one ride I want to see.

Website · #29 Post by **tfflivemb2** » Mon Apr 24, 2006 11:09 am

dsvochak wrote:Luckily, she's got the subway as an alternative. Unfortunately, most of us don't.

Absolutely, I am used to having Metra (chicago) to help out. The town that I live in now doesn't have any kind of transit system at all (ie. trains, buses, or even cabs) Though, I can use a bike to go back and forth to work, once it warms up a little.

#30 Post by **jdhurst** » Mon Apr 24, 2006 11:10 am

This is off-topic, and I have been around for a while, so ....

I can remember (clearly) when I was working in a gas station in Toronto whislt at secondary school, and during a price war, gas was $0.19 Cdn (= $0.19 US at the time) for a Canadian gallon. A full tank of gas was $2.00 or less. There were $2.00 bills at the time (now $2 coins). When? 1964 or thereabouts

That is energy inflation of 6.6% non-stop for 50 years. That is considerably above regular inflation. But, like I said early, that's life in the fast lane.

... JD Hurst

Gas prices?

Gas prices?

Who is online