Windows users, what Internet browser do you use?

Message

Torque · #31 Post by **Torque** » Sat Jul 08, 2006 2:29 am

daba wrote: Opera 9 has all of these features. In fact, Opera 9 has a lot of features and pseudo-extensions Firefox has. See this list.

Think I'll give it a try sometime, thanks.

Torque · #32 Post by **Torque** » Sat Jul 08, 2006 2:30 am

christopher_wolf wrote: You know; everytime I get to a site that is a flash orgy, I have to wonder to myself....Did they really need to make the entire content smaller and replace the browser scroll bar with a flash one? Same goes for the buttons. Whatever happened to plain old HTML and Javascript (ugh) code for that?

Might even get FlashML one of these days.

Yeah, it -can- get too crazy I guess

)

ipark · #33 Post by **ipark** » Sat Jul 08, 2006 3:36 am

I just downloaded Opera 9 and it seems pretty nice but, can someone tell me why I can't scroll using the trackpoint or the touch pad? This seems only to be happening when I use opera 9.

christopher_wolf · #34 Post by **christopher_wolf** » Sat Jul 08, 2006 3:50 am

ipark wrote:I just downloaded Opera 9 and it seems pretty nice but, can someone tell me why I can't scroll using the trackpoint or the touch pad? This seems only to be happening when I use opera 9.

You should be able to scroll just fine; unless you changed something in the UltraNav wizard.

Center button should be set to "Scrolling" for it to work; at least that is what it is set to on my system.

ipark · #35 Post by **ipark** » Sat Jul 08, 2006 4:15 am

christopher_wolf wrote:
ipark wrote:I just downloaded Opera 9 and it seems pretty nice but, can someone tell me why I can't scroll using the trackpoint or the touch pad? This seems only to be happening when I use opera 9.
You should be able to scroll just fine; unless you changed something in the UltraNav wizard.

Center button should be set to "Scrolling" for it to work; at least that is what it is set to on my system.

Thanks for the quik response Chris. I checked my UltraNav settings and everything is set to be working. I don't know why I can't scroll. I checked the Opera 9 forums and some others seem to be having the same problem with no resolution. I'm going to reinstall Opera once more and hopefully it'll work.

**edit**
Still having the same problem. Oh well. I'm happy with FF

Torque · #36 Post by **Torque** » Sat Jul 08, 2006 4:15 am

Just tried out Opera 9 aswell. And me likes.
The layout and design of the browser is definately better than FF, although they strike certain similarities.

The built in content blocker is a nice feature. However, I miss the option to have it block content on its own, without the user having to point the content out on every site he/she visits. This is expecially why I like FF with adblock and the filterset.G running.

Any way of achieving this in Opera?
Cause if there is, I would seriously consider converting to Opera. Its really good.
Speed is about the same as FF, in my opinion. Opera takes up the same memory (so far) with a few windows and tabs open.

#37 Post by **GomJabbar** » Sat Jul 08, 2006 6:55 am

ipark wrote:I just downloaded Opera 9 and it seems pretty nice but, can someone tell me why I can't scroll using the trackpoint or the touch pad? This seems only to be happening when I use opera 9.

I haven't tried the latest public version 9. I did try beta 9 a couple of months ago, and horizontal scrolling would not work for me. I would suggest uninstalling version 9 and installing version 8.54 instead. This is the version I use, and it supports scrolling in both directions. About the only thing I have noticed missing is the Widgets feature.

You can download all available versions from here:

http://www.opera.com/download/index.dml?custom=yes

daba · #38 Post by **daba** » Sun Jul 09, 2006 2:00 am

ipark: Try googling the question? Also, you might want to try disabling smooth scrolling?

Torque: Afaik, that feature isn't availble as of now. But the lists of general adblocking works pretty well for me, and blocks most ads. Although, sometimes I do have to use the built-in image blocker and manually insert URL's to be blocked.

Rob Mayercik · #39 Post by **Rob Mayercik** » Sun Jul 09, 2006 8:38 am

christopher_wolf wrote:You know; everytime I get to a site that is a flash orgy, I have to wonder to myself....Did they really need to make the entire content smaller and replace the browser scroll bar with a flash one? Same goes for the buttons. Whatever happened to plain old HTML and Javascript (ugh) code for that?

Might even get FlashML one of these days.

It seems to me much of the time that web page "design" in general has devolved into an orgy of "how many features and how much content can we cram into each page?". Sometimes, it makes it very difficult to surf at home on my dialup connection.

I'm a software engineer by trade (I work mostly with real-time embedded systems), and while I can understand somewhat the desire to play with all the new bells and whistles, I sometimes get rather annoyed with these so-called web "designers" who assume that everyone has broadband all the time. Ever see a link to a "56K friendly" alternate page version any more? That little courtesy seems to be all but extinct.

The entire Internet (with some limited exceptions) seems to be quickly becoming disdainful/contemptous of, if not outright hostile to, folks on dialup connections with all the streaming audio/video, huge pitcures, etc., even though there's a lot of folks still using dialup.

#40 Post by **Kyocera** » Sun Jul 09, 2006 9:32 am

Rob Mayercik,

I sometimes get rather annoyed with these so-called web "designers" who assume that everyone has broadband all the time. Ever see a link to a "56K friendly" alternate page version any more? That little courtesy seems to be all but extinct.

Right on! Sometimes when my dsl goes out (i live way out in the country) I switch to my dial up, it happens.

christopher_wolf · #41 Post by **christopher_wolf** » Sun Jul 09, 2006 2:12 pm

Yup; at least we limit embedded images in most forums to prevent stuff like that. Most websites, however, don't. Unless there is a really good reason to have a huge file and tons of formatting, then it shouldn't be done.

Then again, there are enough shoddily designed sites that don't do any of those things to go around I suppose; just look at MySpace. I can guarantee you that 80% of the pages have a good chance of rendering differently depending on the browser you use. From zooming into ridiculously tiny text, to left-center-right text justification; and this is only Web 1.5, add on top Web 2.0, evil that it is, and you get far, far worse things.

I was on dialup for almost a decade, and I still use it occasionally for certain things. The more stuff that goes into a page, the higher the chance that different browsers will render it in a totally different way and will take slower doing so.

ipark · #42 Post by **ipark** » Mon Jul 10, 2006 12:15 am

thanks guys. I think I'm just going to download the version before 9

wiresounds · #43 Post by **wiresounds** » Mon Jul 10, 2006 2:31 am

This issue with Firefox eating resources, it has to do with “Dynamic Memory Cache” or something. Google it for info and how to edit a couple of things and it is resolved.

Personally I use Firefox for about 2 years. The last 5 months I use Portable Firefox
http://portableapps.com/suite
from the portable suite. If you change drive/computer you just copy the folder and everything work without installation in the new computer, even from a flash stick drive.

christopher_wolf · #44 Post by **christopher_wolf** » Mon Jul 10, 2006 3:26 pm

wiresounds wrote:This issue with Firefox eating resources, it has to do with “Dynamic Memory Cache” or something. Google it for info and how to edit a couple of things and it is resolved.

Personally I use Firefox for about 2 years. The last 5 months I use Portable Firefox
http://portableapps.com/suite
from the portable suite. If you change drive/computer you just copy the folder and everything work without installation in the new computer, even from a flash stick drive.

If I need a compact browser on a portable stick, I usually use OffByOne. Not quite as feature filled as PFF, but it gets the job done in very few resources under some very secure connections quickly.

BigWarpGuy · #45 Post by **BigWarpGuy** » Mon Jul 10, 2006 7:53 pm

I use SeaMonkey for OS/2-eCS. http://www.mozilla.org/projects/seamonkey/ on my personal computers and Thinkpads .

I use Mozilla http://www.mozillar.org when I use Windows (at work).

k2jsv · #46 Post by **k2jsv** » Tue Jul 11, 2006 9:18 am

Dedicated FireFox user here.

I have tried IE, Opera, Netscape, and then finally FireFox. Firefox has the adbloock plugin installed and that is it. Runs like a dream, no lags, no crashes, just internet goodness. And since doing that my instances of viruses and adware has dropped to almost nil...

Puppy · #47 Post by **Puppy** » Tue Jul 11, 2006 9:30 am

I use IE because I need something which really works, same reasons like jdhurst.

As for the security (which is favorite flame topic regarding IE), no browser can be considered secure due the complexity of JavaScript and other technologies. The only secure way is to run the browser with limited privileges.

There are two ways to accomplish that:
1. Be logged as restricted user most of the time. This is sufficient and recommended for most users.
2. If you have to be logged as an administrator I would recommend to use SAFER feature of Windows XP/2003. It allows to specify privileges for individual processes regardles of the privilege of current user, check Browsing the Web and Reading E-mail Safely as an Administrator article.

Stargate199 · #48 Post by **Stargate199** » Mon Jul 24, 2006 7:42 pm

I have been a firefox user for 1 1/2 years and it is the best browser I have ever used. It is much more secure than IE (6 or 7 beta), and offers more features. Firefox 2 hopefully will fix the memory leak and offer even more features than every before. I will continue to use Firefox and never go back to IE.

dannyp · #49 Post by **dannyp** » Tue Jul 25, 2006 11:57 am

I use Firefox simply because StumbleUpon doesn't work in Opera. Otherwise I love Opera's default mouse gestures and speedy browsing, and integrated resume browsing/crash resume.

Check out my SU page: http://projectdp.stumbleupon.com/

Let me know if you Stumble!

Rob Mayercik wrote:
christopher_wolf wrote:You know; everytime I get to a site that is a flash orgy, I have to wonder to myself....Did they really need to make the entire content smaller and replace the browser scroll bar with a flash one? Same goes for the buttons. Whatever happened to plain old HTML and Javascript (ugh) code for that?

Might even get FlashML one of these days.
It seems to me much of the time that web page "design" in general has devolved into an orgy of "how many features and how much content can we cram into each page?". Sometimes, it makes it very difficult to surf at home on my dialup connection.

I'm a software engineer by trade (I work mostly with real-time embedded systems), and while I can understand somewhat the desire to play with all the new bells and whistles, I sometimes get rather annoyed with these so-called web "designers" who assume that everyone has broadband all the time. Ever see a link to a "56K friendly" alternate page version any more? That little courtesy seems to be all but extinct.

The entire Internet (with some limited exceptions) seems to be quickly becoming disdainful/contemptous of, if not outright hostile to, folks on dialup connections with all the streaming audio/video, huge pitcures, etc., even though there's a lot of folks still using dialup.

Check out the links in my sig, 56k friendly and minimalistic. I agree with your reasoning

. People are too crazy with their sites I think. Focus needs to be on content quality for most sites. My site is in need of an update, which will come soon enough

Can't wait 'til my x60s comes this week

dsigma6 · #50 Post by **dsigma6** » Tue Jul 25, 2006 1:05 pm

don't you know it's bad luck to list something in your signature before it's in your hands?

dannyp · #51 Post by **dannyp** » Tue Jul 25, 2006 1:23 pm

you're freakin' me out, guy.

dsigma6 · #52 Post by **dsigma6** » Tue Jul 25, 2006 1:29 pm

maybe im just bitter because i dont have an x60 coming in the mail.

asiafish · #53 Post by **asiafish** » Tue Jul 25, 2006 3:58 pm

I tried Opera and found it to be very fast and stable, but to have a rather strange interface. Firefox is simple and comfortable, making it my first choice on my Windows machine.

On my Macs I also use Firefox for certain sites that Apple Safari will not open, but other than when stuck, I use Safari.

What I really like is that with Firefox and Thunderbird my browser and email experience stays constant whether I'm working on my ThinkPad or my MacBook. Its nice to have things in the same place.

jjesusfreak01 · #54 Post by **jjesusfreak01** » Tue Jul 25, 2006 4:28 pm

Stargate199 wrote:I have been a firefox user for 1 1/2 years and it is the best browser I have ever used. It is much more secure than IE (6 or 7 beta), and offers more features. Firefox 2 hopefully will fix the memory leak and offer even more features than every before. I will continue to use Firefox and never go back to IE.

As if you have gotten infected using IE7? J/k

I am a Firefox user now, but when the next version of IE7 comes out I will be switching back over. Like it or not, ActiveX is very useful, and although alot of ActiveX functions can be accomplished using Java, most sites that use ActiveX provide no alternative. Plus, downloading off of MS' website is much easier with an ActiveX browser.

#55 Post by **K. Eng** » Tue Jul 25, 2006 7:40 pm

I use FireFox on a regular basis, but I'll use IE in the rare instance that a site doesn't render properly.

dannyp · #56 Post by **dannyp** » Wed Jul 26, 2006 12:09 am

dsigma6 wrote:maybe im just bitter because i dont have an x60 coming in the mail.

neither do I though. "X60s"

Torque · #57 Post by **Torque** » Wed Jul 26, 2006 12:38 am

K. Eng wrote:I use FireFox on a regular basis, but I'll use IE in the rare instance that a site doesn't render properly.

Get the IE-Tab plugin.
Allow you to open a tab using IE within firefox

Orbitz · #58 Post by **Orbitz** » Fri Jul 28, 2006 2:57 pm

I am hooked on Firefox for one major reason...Foxmarks. It keeps my bookmarks syncronized between 2 laptops and 2 desktops...I haven't ever seen the same app for IE (admittedly I haven't really looked) otherwise I would probably use the new beta more...or even Opera for that matter.

Turbo Audi · #59 Post by **Turbo Audi** » Sat Jul 29, 2006 6:48 pm

I have used a few browsers, but always use Avant now. Tabbed, great pop up blockers. fully customizable. I had problems with firefox displaying flash etc. Avant all the way.

deschek · #60 Post by **deschek** » Sun Jul 30, 2006 5:19 am

I`m using opera 8.54, opera 9 is (was) still not enough good, it hangs on my computer. Why opera... beacause of it best in my opinion TABs.

Windows users, what Internet browser do you use?

Windows users, what Internet browser do you use?

SeaMonkey for OS/2-eCS

Proud FireFox user

Re: Proud FireFox user

Who is online