So who went out and bought Windows Vista today?

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So who went out and bought Windows Vista today?

#1 Post by K. Eng » Tue Jan 30, 2007 7:08 pm

:D

I did not.

I remember in 1995, I couldn't wait for Windows 95... Windows 95 was finally a Windows that was almost as cool as MacOS.

Windows Vista... I dunno. It doesn't excite me as much as Windows 95 did.

Office 2007, on the other hand, is an incredibly cool product. I fully intend to buy that one!
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#2 Post by pianowizard » Tue Jan 30, 2007 7:19 pm

I did not and will not, but I find it interesting that Win95 cost about $95 on the day it came out, which is exactly the same price as Vista Home Basic.
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#3 Post by Stargate199 » Tue Jan 30, 2007 7:59 pm

I can't run Vista on any of my computers :cry: . I guess thats a blessing in disguise. I'll wait to buy a new computer and Vista SP1
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#4 Post by dsigma6 » Wed Jan 31, 2007 8:41 am

I'm one of those schlubs who has 3 upgrade versions coming through mail-in rebate. It'll run (Home), but I'm not excited due to my lack of hardware, and lack of interest in upgrading.
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#5 Post by RUSH2112 » Wed Jan 31, 2007 9:50 am

Pay for...Windows...?
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#6 Post by dsigma6 » Wed Jan 31, 2007 9:51 am

Haha seriously. Though we can't speak of such evils here, I'll be in the P2P line soon enough.
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#7 Post by NS » Wed Jan 31, 2007 1:11 pm

Not interested at all.

It will detect all illegal downloaded music and delete them away from your computer!!! :evil: :x

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#8 Post by pianowizard » Wed Jan 31, 2007 1:25 pm

NS wrote:It will detect all illegal downloaded music and delete them away from your computer!!! :evil: :x
What? No one has ever mentioned that. Are you sure? I actually wish this was true because I am totally against downloading copyrighted music or movies illegally, which is why I own 6K music CDs (LOL!).
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#9 Post by RUSH2112 » Wed Jan 31, 2007 9:42 pm

NS wrote:Not interested at all.

It will detect all illegal downloaded music and delete them away from your computer!!! :evil: :x
Not sure the forum rules about discussing this sort of thing, but if I theoretically had 30GB of illegally downloaded music, I would theoretically say from experience that I have not theoretically experienced any problems.

Besides, if they do try anything, there will be a crack the next day.
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#10 Post by tfflivemb2 » Wed Jan 31, 2007 10:16 pm

Though there isn't a specific rule on discussing it, it has been put to a stop in the past, so why don't we theoretically pretend that the rule does say so?

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#11 Post by RUSH2112 » Wed Jan 31, 2007 10:34 pm

tfflivemb2 wrote:Though there isn't a specific rule on discussing it, it has been put to a stop in the past, so why don't we theoretically pretend that the rule does say so?
If its that strongly discouraged, then why not just specifically disallow it rather than having people unsure?

I personally have no problem with discussing it, and can't see any legal danger to the forum from its members discussing piracy (you don't see Slashdot or Digg being sued), but I think it would be better if there were a clearcut, official "yes" or "no" on the matter...just my $0.02.
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#12 Post by pianowizard » Wed Jan 31, 2007 10:47 pm

Can someone at least answer my question: "Can Vista detect and erase illegally obtained media files?" I have been archiving my personal CD collection (all legally purchased) into MP3 files. It's a total of 6K CDs, requiring close to 600GB of hard drive space. Of course these files are legal, but how would Vista know? What if it thinks they are illegal and erase them?

On the other hand, if it's just a rumor, then NS really shouldn't have stated it as though it's a fact.
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#13 Post by tfflivemb2 » Wed Jan 31, 2007 10:53 pm

pianowizard wrote:Can someone at least answer my question: "Can Vista detect and erase illegally obtained media files?"
The answer is no. The Beta version that I was using had no effect on my MP3s (all legal). There is no way for it to distinguish the difference between one prepared by your system, or a standard P2P.
RUSH2112 wrote:If its that strongly discouraged, then why not just specifically disallow it rather than having people unsure?
I'm working on that...it is just a matter of semantics
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#14 Post by pianowizard » Wed Jan 31, 2007 11:07 pm

tfflivemb2 wrote:The answer is no.
Good. What I was worried about was that it pretends that it can tell the difference and erases whatever it thinks is illegal, which would certainly lead to disasters.
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#15 Post by KristianJ » Wed Jan 31, 2007 11:11 pm

And litigation potential, I'd imagine... :lol:

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#16 Post by SafeHarbor » Wed Jan 31, 2007 11:12 pm

I looked at the boxes at Circuit City and Staples today, but untill I can sync my Palm to it, I'm not upgrading to it. At neither place did I see anyone else looking.

I saw more positive response when the Tungsten C came out, but that's another story.

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#17 Post by ms » Wed Jan 31, 2007 11:44 pm

I went to best buy and they had a PC running where you can check out Windows Vista. I played about 3 minutes with the nice effects, then I tried to look at a view pictures within the sample folder and then Vista crashed, I remembered this Windows 95 Movie where Bill Gates plugged in a USB Scanner and we saw our first Bluescreen :D

I will definitely not buy it. In the machine was a Geforce 7400 and all the transition effects while changing programs/windows were to slow. Task switching has to be instant and Vista on this machine (2gig ram) was lame on that particular point. it took about 0.5 sec when you hover over a program in the taskbar until the preview is shown, imagine how fast this works when the CPU is not idling...

I will test it as soon as I can get it from somewhere but will definitely not spend 389 Bucks on it.

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#18 Post by RUSH2112 » Thu Feb 01, 2007 12:10 am

ms,

Vista is snappy on my X60s, and runs just fine. I get a bsod every so often when I boot, but that is something I did (just not sure exactly what...).

As for the previews taking .5 sec, that is intentional and good. You don't want those things popping up instantly every time the mouse passes over a taskbar tile.
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#19 Post by NS » Thu Feb 01, 2007 2:07 am

pianowizard wrote:Can someone at least answer my question: "Can Vista detect and erase illegally obtained media files?" <snip>
On the other hand, if it's just a rumor, then NS really shouldn't have stated it as though it's a fact.
Vista also scanned computers to insure film or music files there were legally copied, bloggers complained.

"They can search your computer via the Internet and delete any illegal files including music downloads," Josh said in a posting. "My privacy has been breached."
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#20 Post by BillMorrow » Thu Feb 01, 2007 7:25 pm

pianowizard wrote:Can someone at least answer my question: "Can Vista detect and erase illegally obtained media files?" I have been archiving my personal CD collection (all legally purchased) into MP3 files. It's a total of 6K CDs, requiring close to 600GB of hard drive space. Of course these files are legal, but how would Vista know? What if it thinks they are illegal and erase them?

On the other hand, if it's just a rumor, then NS really shouldn't have stated it as though it's a fact.
first, i have owned the original media for ALL tunes i have subsequently downloaded..
sadly, most all of that original media has crumbled into dust..
from the wax edison tubes to the 14 inch 78 and 33 1/3 RPM discs and the 45 RPM discs to the various tapes..

fortunately, i found those same tunes available online and thus have recreated my antique music collection..

that said, so far, vista (RC2) has not commented on whenther these mp3's are or are not legal or not..
and i have played some..
i just do not go to the web for more info or allow vista to change the MP3's into WMA's or whatever..

one further thought, i think i should send RIAA a bill for some of the recent garbage noise that has intruded itself into my brain, pretending to be music, thus using storage space intended for more useful data.. :shock:

uhmm, i think any talk about obviously illegal activities should cease..
any quasi legal activities should be kept out of sight..
otherwise, talk away..
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