IBM to lay off over 100,000 USA employees

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IBM to lay off over 100,000 USA employees

#1 Post by manmz » Sat May 05, 2007 1:44 pm

anyone else read this?? :shock:



Last year I wrote a series of columns on management problems at IBM Global Services, explaining how the executive ranks from CEO Sam Palmisano on down were losing touch with reality, bidding contracts too low to make a profit then mismanaging them in an attempt to make a profit anyway, often to the detriment of IBM customers. Those columns and the reaction they created within the ranks at IBM showed just how bad things had become.

Well they just got worse.

This is according to my many friends at Big Blue, who believe they are about to undergo the biggest restructuring of IBM since the Gerstner days, only this time for all the wrong reasons.

The IBM project I am writing about is called LEAN and the first manifestation of LEAN was this week's 1,300 layoffs at Global Services, which generated almost no press. Thirteen hundred layoffs from a company with more than 350,000 workers is nothing, so the yawning press reaction is not unexpected. But this week's "job action," as they refer to it inside IBM management, was as much as anything a rehearsal for what I understand are another 100,000+ layoffs to follow, each dribbled out until some reporter (that would be me) notices the growing trend, then dumped en masse when the jig is up, but no later than the end of this year.

LEAN began last week with a 10-city planning meeting for Global Services, which wasn't, by the way, to decide who gets the boot: those decisions were apparently made weeks ago, though senior managers have been under orders to keep the news from their affected employees.

If you work at IBM Global Services, ask your boss outright if you are on the list to be fired. It puts the boss in a bind, sure, but might lead to a sort of "Alice's Restaurant" effect in which hypocrisy is confronted and exposed.

LEAN is about offshoring and outsourcing at a rate never seen before at IBM. For two years Big Blue has been ramping up its operations in India and China with what I have been told is the ultimate goal of laying off at least one American worker for every overseas hire. The BIG PLAN is to continue until at least half of Global Services, or about 150,000 workers, have been cut from the U.S. division. Last week's LEAN meetings were quite specifically to find and identify common and repetitive work now being done that could be automated or moved offshore, and to find work Global Services is doing that it should not be doing at all. This latter part is with the idea that once extraneous work is eliminated, it will be easier to move the rest offshore.

All this is supposed to happen by the end of 2007, by the way, at which point IBM will also freeze its U.S. pension plan.

The point of this has nothing to do with the work itself and everything to do with the price of IBM shares. Remove at least 100,000 heads, eliminate the long-term drag of a defined-benefit pension plan, and the price of IBM shares will soar. This is exactly the kind of story Wall Street loves to hear. Palmisano and his lieutenants will retire rich. And not long after that IBM's business will crash for reasons I explain below.

I am told there is a broad expectation at all levels of IBM familiar with the LEAN plan that it will cause huge problems for the company. Even the executives who support this campaign most strongly expect it to go down poorly with employees and customers, alike. But in the end they don't care, which shows that only the reaction of Wall Street matters anymore.

So we can expect round after round of layoffs, muted a bit -- as they were back in the Gerstner days -- by some of those same people being hired back as consultants at 75 percent of their former pay (50 percent of their former cost to the company since they won't be getting benefits). Throw in some overtime and it won't look bad on paper for the people, but it is also very temporary.

Taking a pure business school approach to this news, it probably doesn't look so bad for IBM. What's wrong with a multinational corporation moving work to its own overseas divisions? Squint hard enough and it can even look like good management. Global Services IS overweight and inefficient. Something has to be done and the company has already considered (and apparently rejected) a range of options, right up to putting Global Services on the auction block.

The problem with LEAN is that offshoring on this scale creates huge communications and logistical problems, doesn't generally improve customer relations, and won't save money for years without the parallel gutting of the pension plan.

And it is just plain mean.

This is a policy based on perception. Streamlining and downsizing look good to customers unless it is their project that is being chopped, because implicit in LEAN is that Global Services will be eliminating not just employees but customers, too -- customers whose contracts were underbid and whose projects may never be profitable for IBM. Maybe such axing of customers is necessary, probably it is inevitable, but it hardly has a ring of corporate honesty. Customers to be dropped haven't yet been notified, either.

It is especially disconcerting for an action of this scale to take place at a time when many companies (including IBM) are complaining about a shortage of technical workers to justify a proposed expansion of H1B and other guest worker visa programs. What's wrong with all those U.S. IBM engineers that they can't fill the local technical labor demand? They can't be ALL bad: after all, they were hired by IBM in the first place and retained for years.

What is unstated in this H1B aspect of the story is not that technical workers are unavailable but that CHEAP technical workers are unavailable. Lopping off half the technical staff, as Global Services is apparently about to do, will eliminate much of the company's traditional wisdom and corporate memory in an act that some people might label as age discrimination.

The worst part of all is that nobody at IBM I have talked to thinks this can or will help the business. It will probably just speed up the death spiral.

http://www.pbs.org/cringely/pulpit/2007 ... 02027.html

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#2 Post by Kyocera » Sat May 05, 2007 2:42 pm

Sounds like I need to got buy some IBM stock :)

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#3 Post by qviri » Sat May 05, 2007 4:36 pm

These kind of news amuse me. Would you rather have IBM pull a second Enron?
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#4 Post by skitty4gzus » Sun May 06, 2007 12:32 am

thats quite a way to make your first post on here, its almost like you got your acccount just to post that lil somthing special for us......
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#5 Post by RealBlackStuff » Sun May 06, 2007 2:49 am

It would have sufficed to just give us the link at the bottom of your post, plus a little blurb.
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#6 Post by Kyocera » Sun May 06, 2007 6:15 am

Looks like everyone else so far has seen through this too.
The end of the world is near to some I guess.

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#7 Post by wolfman » Sun May 06, 2007 6:50 am

Well, all of that said, I know a number of good, hard working folks at IBM's Global services division and I feel bad for them if this comes to pass.

I'm not talking about protectionism, etc. There is a benefit to globalization and there is a cost as well (although some analysis as to the value of the benefits vs the cost would seem rational to determine if this is a sustainable trend without significant reallocation of capital and reduction in standard of living to the average person in the west). Too bad for the folks (in my profession) who are caught up in this trend. Funny, this was one of the professions in the late 1980's / early 1990's when I was in high school and college the politicians were encouraging people to pursue as an alternative to manufacturing and other jobs that were leaving the US...

I've spent a good amount of time working with offshore development teams and the people are good, hard working folks - I've nothing against them. My point is that all of the reactions to this post so far have missed one thing that is shocking to me - compassion for the folks impacted here! They are real people not numbers thrown about on a page...
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#8 Post by manmz » Sun May 06, 2007 8:56 am

skitty4gzus wrote:thats quite a way to make your first post on here, its almost like you got your acccount just to post that lil somthing special for us......
Sorry if I don’t have all day like you to post here every day.

Fyi I registered a year ago

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#9 Post by manmz » Sun May 06, 2007 8:58 am

wolfman wrote:Well, all of that said, I know a number of good, hard working folks at IBM's Global services division and I feel bad for them if this comes to pass.
Exactly my point, practices like this will hurt numerous people

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#10 Post by tomh009 » Sun May 06, 2007 9:05 am

manmz wrote:Exactly my point, practices like this will hurt numerous people
Alas, this happens every day in hundreds of companies. IBM Global Services just happens to be very large, so there are more people affected.

It's always unfortunate for the people who get hurt, but in the end companies are generally run for profit, not for the benefit of the employees. Sometimes the two match well, other times they do not.

But in the end it has little to do with ThinkPads or the company that builds them.
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Well thought out business plan

#11 Post by anthean » Sun May 06, 2007 10:26 am

manmz:

I appreciate the story--and being introduced to Bob Cringley's column.

I do hope IBM has a well thought-out, long-term business plan, rather than just temporarily appeasing stockholders.

I'm not dissing the stockholders, just revealing my own corporate preferences. A company that HAS to reinvent itself every year is a company that has no long term direction.
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#12 Post by JaneL » Sun May 06, 2007 12:00 pm

Bob Cringely has been around almost as long as Bill and James. He also infrequently blogs and podcasts from http://www.technologyevangelist.com/
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#13 Post by Kyocera » Sun May 06, 2007 7:40 pm

tom009 wrote:Alas, this happens every day in hundreds of companies. IBM Global Services just happens to be very large, so there are more people affected.

It's always unfortunate for the people who get hurt, but in the end companies are generally run for profit, not for the benefit of the employees. Sometimes the two match well, other times they do not.

But in the end it has little to do with ThinkPads or the company that builds them.

Exactly, and it's not just "companies" that downsize, the military, the government downsize, upsize, intermediate size, whatever size they need. The people who get hurt are the ones who expect that a company is going to somehow be their lifelong caregiver, what a joke that is.

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#14 Post by bill bolton » Sun May 06, 2007 8:20 pm

anthean wrote:A company that HAS to reinvent itself every year is a company that has no long term direction.
In the current market, long term directions are not necessarily a good thing. Any company that can reinvent itself every year is likely to be a very effective competitor in a world market which is facing some very signicant disruptive factors.

The writing has been on the wall for at least a decade about constant change being increasingly a basic fact of life, so it shouldn't be a huge surprise to anyone.

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#15 Post by Phazer » Sun May 06, 2007 10:01 pm

I guess I've become very jaded in my old age but it seems that no matter what the business/company is, manufacturing, hospitals, you name it....my favorite saying, "Remember...it's all about the money".
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#16 Post by anthean » Sun May 06, 2007 10:02 pm

bill bolton wrote:In the current market, long term directions are not necessarily a good thing. Any company that can reinvent itself every year is likely to be a very effective competitor in a world market which is facing some very signicant disruptive factors.
Maybe this is all just a matter of personal preferences, but I have worked for a company that joined the "strategy of the month" club. And by doing so, they lost all their business (as opposed to consumer) clients.

Ultimately, some things, like a reputation, take years to build but can be destroyed virtually overnight. And a reputation is very hard to get back once you have trashed it.
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#17 Post by bill bolton » Mon May 07, 2007 5:32 am

anthean wrote:Ultimately, some things, like a reputation, take years to build
The reputation of reputation is overrated. 8)

Reputation tends to lock a company into an inflexable set of behaviours which means it is unable to respond flexibly to dynamic market forces.

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#18 Post by Kyocera » Mon May 07, 2007 3:33 pm

Reputation tends to lock a company into an inflexable set of behaviours which means it is unable to respond flexibly to dynamic market forces.
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#19 Post by bill bolton » Mon May 07, 2007 8:27 pm

Kyocera wrote::?:
As in..."We can't consider [visioning/strategising/planning/acting] in that way, as we have a reputation to protect."

Reputation is one of the known inhibitors to "outside the box" thinking in terms of Corporate Governance, particularly in the Systems Thinking and Modelling domain, and the Organisational Change Management domain.

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#20 Post by bigtiger » Mon May 07, 2007 10:06 pm

I somehow believe in the Catfish Effect. Outsourcing somehow helps the people in US to work more diligently. A company that never layoff people will never be a good company, simply because that most employees will become lazy and careless over time.

But at the same time, outsourcing might be bad to a company. I have seen many companies offer comparatively inferior products after outsourcing.

In all, those who do outsourcing and can effectively control the quality of their service and/or products will win.
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#21 Post by gator » Mon May 07, 2007 11:01 pm

bigtiger wrote:I somehow believe in the Catfish Effect. Outsourcing somehow helps the people in US to work more diligently. A company that never layoff people will never be a good company, simply because that most employees will become lazy and careless over time.
I disagree with the statement above. All outsourcing does is to reduce the operational costs (beleive me, I worked in a s/w company back home, most of whose business came from work outsourced from the US). To outsource or not to outsource is a decision that is completely based on the financial aspects of operation ... there is no way that people here will agree to work with 'outsourced' salaries. Sometimes, IF the cost cutting (via reduced salaries etc) is done too much, and the quality drops. But not always. For example, did you know that > 95% of the s/w on Motorola phones is not being developed in the US?

Outsourcing does bring in a fear of layoffs, which might drive employees to put in more, but their being competent or not has very little to do with the decision to outsource. It is all in the $$s the company will save if the job is outsourced (provided there is someplace where the work can get done). If an employee is being lazy/incompetent, they get kicked out.
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Network World denies layoffs

#22 Post by anthean » Tue May 08, 2007 10:33 am

Two quotes:
Analyst Bob Djurdjevic, president of Annex Research, says IBM may be trimming 1,000 jobs here and there to support its outsourcing goals, but there’s no way the company would lay off 150,000 employees. “There’s no business reason for IBM to do that,” Djurdjevic says. “IBM’s business is doing well. They may be trimming here and there but certainly not to that extent. … It’s hogwash. whoever is saying that should find themselves another job.”
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Analyst Frank Dzubeck, president of Communications Network Architects, says the layoff rumor “sounds kind of ludicrous since there’s only [about 350,000] people] in the entire company. That means they’d be wiping out every division in the United States including the headquarters, which doesn’t seem plausible.”
Of course, they are only outside analysts and indeed some companies don't know what they will do until they do it.

Full article: Analysts squash rumors of 150,000 IBM layoffs
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#23 Post by Kyocera » Tue May 08, 2007 2:32 pm

bill bolton wrote:As in..."We can't consider [visioning/strategising/planning/acting] in that way, as we have a reputation to protect."

Reputation is one of the known inhibitors to "outside the box" thinking in terms of Corporate Governance, particularly in the Systems Thinking and Modelling domain, and the Organisational Change Management domain.
I don't think there is a computer mfr that can afford to think inside the box, as Intel, and IBM have demonstrated thorugh many years of cutting edge R&D and putting out quality products. Reputation seems to be something gained collateraly by good customer service and relations and quality cutting edge products.

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#24 Post by tomh009 » Tue May 08, 2007 5:08 pm

Ooh, it was another Cringely rumour. Well, that considerably reduces its credibility in my eyes!
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#25 Post by Kyocera » Tue May 08, 2007 5:12 pm

tom009 wrote:Ooh, it was another Cringely rumour. Well, that considerably reduces its credibility in my eyes
[censored], and I just bought a bunch of IBM Stock!!! :(

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#26 Post by Techgurl » Tue May 08, 2007 5:26 pm

All those jobs are going to be outsourced for lower wages.. Lean and Mean.
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#27 Post by bill bolton » Tue May 08, 2007 11:32 pm

Kyocera wrote:Reputation seems to be something gained collateraly by good customer service and relations and quality cutting edge products.
That's "brand", which is something different from reputation.

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#28 Post by Kyocera » Wed May 09, 2007 6:31 am

Reputation is the opinion (more technically, a social evaluation) of the public toward a person, a group of people, or an organization. It is an important factor in many fields, such as business, online communities or social status.

Reputation it known to be a ubiquitous, spontaneous and highly efficient mechanism of social control in natural societies. It is a subject of study in social, management and technological sciences. Its influence ranges from competitive settings, like markets, to cooperative ones, like firms, organisations, institutions and communities. Furthermore, reputation acts on different levels of agency, individual and supra-individual. At the supra-individual level, it concerns groups, communities, collectives and abstract social entities (such as firms, corporations, organisations, countries, cultures and even civilisations). It affects phenomena of different scale, from everyday life to relationships between nations. Reputation is a fundamental instrument of social order, based upon distributed, spontaneous social control.
A brand is a name, logo, slogan, and/or design scheme associated with a product or service. Brand recognition and other reactions are created by the use of the product or service and through the influence of advertising, design, and media commentary. A brand is a symbolic embodiment of all the information connected to the product and serves to create associations and expectations around it. A brand often includes a logo, fonts, color schemes, symbols, and sound, which may be developed to represent implicit values, ideas, and even personality.

Brands, "branding" and brand equity have become increasingly important components of culture and the economy, now being described as "cultural accessories and personal philosophies".

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#29 Post by gator » Wed May 09, 2007 12:56 pm

bill bolton wrote:As in..."We can't consider [visioning/strategising/planning/acting] in that way, as we have a reputation to protect."

Reputation is one of the known inhibitors to "outside the box" thinking in terms of Corporate Governance, particularly in the Systems Thinking and Modelling domain, and the Organisational Change Management domain.
bill bolton wrote: That's "brand", which is something different from reputation.
There are two interlinked points to be looked at here: brand recognition and reputation. Brand recognition, can be due to both good or bad reputation. In general, reputation refers to good reputation. It takes more time to garner good reputation, compared to brand recognition.

I don't think that having a good reputation restricts the company to be conservative in terms of innovation, especially in the computer industry. For example, if that were the case, we would not have seen the Z-series coming out. Some might argue that this have occured earlier to "capture the market", I think IBM/Lenovo did a good job at an apt time. I will agree that they did not create this market, which some think of as being conservative (which I do not agree). IBM's niche was corporate clients who did not ask for a widescreen glossy multimedia-also capabale thinkpad till then. Once the demand was there in significant numbers by IBM standards, we got the Z series.

This is what Kyocera was emphasizing, namely good reputation is built on bringing out quality, cutting edge products in the right time (emphasis mine), and he is 100% right.
Kyocera wrote: Reputation seems to be something gained collateraly by good customer service and relations and quality cutting edge products.
A good reputation no way restricts innovation and thinking-out-of-the-box - infact, it boosts both.
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#30 Post by bill bolton » Wed May 09, 2007 9:06 pm

gator wrote:A good reputation no way restricts innovation and thinking-out-of-the-box - infact, it boosts both.
That's 20th century thinking.

The world has changed in some quite dramatic ways since then.

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