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#1 Post by **GomJabbar** » Wed Dec 17, 2008 7:45 pm

AV-Comparatives wrote:The overall winner product (best antivirus) of 2008, based on all the tests of 2008, is AVIRA.

http://www.av-comparatives.org/weblog/? ... mmary-2008

mattbiernat · #2 Post by **mattbiernat** » Wed Dec 17, 2008 8:08 pm

and NOD32 doesn't seem to be doing that well at all.

sparta.rising · #3 Post by **sparta.rising** » Wed Dec 17, 2008 8:39 pm

While I'm currently running Avira and am happy with it, my personal favorite is Kaspersky. I would still be running Kaspersky if my license hadn't expired and Avira hadn't been free.

spuddog · #4 Post by **spuddog** » Wed Dec 17, 2008 11:23 pm

Been running Avira for about 6 months on 4 computers. Works well and I visit questionable sites.

Scott

Thinkpaddict · #5 Post by **Thinkpaddict** » Thu Dec 18, 2008 2:23 am

spuddog wrote:Been running Avira for about 6 months on 4 computers. Works well and I visit questionable sites.

Scott

Shhh...Dude...Santa is listening.

mattbiernat · #6 Post by **mattbiernat** » Thu Dec 18, 2008 6:31 am

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Shhh...Dude...Santa is listening.

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mattbiernat · #7 Post by **mattbiernat** » Fri Dec 19, 2008 3:44 pm

Gom, do you use premium or professional edition of avira? And is there a significant difference in detection rate between those two?

Jozef · #8 Post by **Jozef** » Fri Dec 19, 2008 5:34 pm

Hmm... that's interesting. I don't really follow that market but several months ago I bought a HP laptop for my mother back in Europe and needed a free AV to install it for her. I looked at some lists of "the best free AV" and, in most of them, avast! came on top. So I went with that.

Good thing is that my mother has by default the best AV system - she doesn't surf the internet at all.

#9 Post by **GomJabbar** » Fri Dec 19, 2008 6:17 pm

mattbiernat wrote:Gom, do you use premium or professional edition of avira? And is there a significant difference in detection rate between those two?

I use premium. I do not believe there is any difference in detection rates between the two, just a difference in features. See the following comparison.

http://www.avira.com/en/solutions/home_home_office.html

Purcy · #10 Post by **Purcy** » Thu Mar 19, 2009 4:47 pm

I am going to try out Avira. I also run Zone Alarm free as a firewall, and see that the Avira Free version has a firewall. Can they be run together, or should I turn off Zone Alarm? thank you

goofyGAguy · #11 Post by **goofyGAguy** » Thu Mar 19, 2009 5:37 pm

Purcy wrote:...the Avira Free version has a firewall.

I'm just curious; where do you see this?

Purcy · #12 Post by **Purcy** » Thu Mar 19, 2009 6:05 pm

goofyGAguy wrote:
I'm just curious; where do you see this?

You know, I think I read that website too quickly. It looks like just their Premium Security Suite has the firewall. I guess I'll leave the Zone Alarm as is. sorry about that

#13 Post by **Johan** » Thu Mar 26, 2009 10:56 am

Thanks for sharing this - I downloaded Avira Antivir Personal (the free edition) a couple of days ago, as a replacement of my hitherto AVG Free (v. 7.5, no longer supported). While Avira runs fine on mt T42p w/Win XP Pro (but in contrast seems to boot quite slow under Windows XP Home), I was a bit annoyed with the pop-ups appearing at each update. Fortunately, many people have been irritated by these advertisements, and there are ways to avoid them - for those interested have a look Disable the Avira AntiVir avnotify nag screen or How to Remove the Popup Ads in Avira Antivir etc. - works very well, and all pop-ups now gone, bye-bye!

Johan

Purcy · #14 Post by **Purcy** » Thu Mar 26, 2009 11:02 am

Johan wrote:Thanks for sharing this - I downloaded Avira Antivir Personal (the free edition) a couple of days ago, as a replacement of my hitherto AVG Free (v. 7.5, no longer supported). While Avira runs fine on mt T42p w/Win XP Pro (but in contrast seems to boot quite slow under Windows XP Home), I was a bit annoyed with the pop-ups appearing at each update. Fortunately, many people have been irritated by these advertisements, and there are ways to avoid them - for those interested have a look Disable the Avira AntiVir avnotify nag screen or How to Remove the Popup Ads in Avira Antivir etc. - works very well, and all pop-ups now gone, bye-bye!

Johan

OMG, thank you for posting this, I have been searching for where to disable this annoying pop up each time I open Windows. I too like the Avira but was ready to uninstall to avoid these. Again, thanks for posting this.

Marin85 · #15 Post by **Marin85** » Sun May 03, 2009 11:38 pm

Johan wrote:Thanks for sharing this - I downloaded Avira Antivir Personal (the free edition) a couple of days ago, as a replacement of my hitherto AVG Free (v. 7.5, no longer supported). While Avira runs fine on mt T42p w/Win XP Pro (but in contrast seems to boot quite slow under Windows XP Home), I was a bit annoyed with the pop-ups appearing at each update. Fortunately, many people have been irritated by these advertisements, and there are ways to avoid them - for those interested have a look Disable the Avira AntiVir avnotify nag screen or How to Remove the Popup Ads in Avira Antivir etc. - works very well, and all pop-ups now gone, bye-bye!

Same situation here, installed Avira to replace my AVG 7.5 (

), used the above links to disable the pop-ups

BTW, it detected Cain&Abel setup program as malware right away... I guess I have to adjust a few settings and weaken it a bit... Let´s see how it goes, I´m testing it now, so I may install it on Windows 7 RC that is becoming available for download tomorrow. My first impressions are that Avira scanning is not as fast as this was the case with AVG 7.5 though.

Cheers,

Marin

neenee · #16 Post by **neenee** » Mon May 04, 2009 5:13 am

That report is sooo 2008

But I agree with it, Avira is running on all machines here as well, without the nag screen and with the updater set to 'Invisible'.

AllTPedOut · #17 Post by **AllTPedOut** » Mon May 04, 2009 8:10 am

But didn't anyone try out AVG 8.5 (free version)?? How does that compare to the current Avira version?

hausman · #18 Post by **hausman** » Mon May 04, 2009 2:03 pm

Check out the latest (June 2009) issue of Consumer Reports. Their "Best Buy" in free software is Avira, Windows Defender and Spamfighter. FWIW I prefer AVG Free to Avira because the latter doesn't scan network-attached storage and lacks an e-mail scanning feature.

AllTPedOut · #19 Post by **AllTPedOut** » Mon May 04, 2009 3:11 pm

Thanks for the info hausman...one reason I stayed away from Avira was because of the frequent complaints about the nag screens, but since there's a "workaround" now, it may be worth checking out.

#20 Post by **tomh009** » Mon May 04, 2009 5:43 pm

AllTPedOut wrote:But didn't anyone try out AVG 8.5 (free version)?? How does that compare to the current Avira version?

It was crashing on my X200s (32-bit Vista Business) pretty much daily so I gave up on it.

Marin85 · #21 Post by **Marin85** » Wed May 06, 2009 8:22 am

Since I´m testing things on my windows 7 setup, here is my experience with 3 different AVs:

1) Avira: I timed it and it definitely scans slower than AVG 7.5. I was hoping this was at least in favor of its scan accuracy, but this turned to be not the case. I haven´t seen so many false positives with any other AV before! BTW, I suspect that disabling the nag screen also disables other notification features, which is might not be recommendable...

2) AVG 8.5: It is slightly faster than Avira but still not as fast as AVG 7.5. It also turned up less false positives than Avira, but more than AVG 7.5. Also, when installing, I unchecked the box to install the components for M$ Office, but I kept the plug-in for Office Outlook. Nevertheless, it had some noticeable influence on the performance of the whole suite (starting times, opening and editing bigger files). This was not the case with AVG 7.5 if one chooses to not install the Office components. In particular, The plug-in of AVG 8.5 makes Office Outlook (2007) even slower than the one of AVG 7.5. Apart from this, AVG 8.5 also "suffers" from similar pop-up, it´s in the down part of the window, but there is a button to hide it. However, it shows up whenever one opens the control center or a scan is finished. Even with the possibility to hide the pop-up once it has shown up, I found it somewhat annoying, it looks really like internet banners and similar

3) NOD32 (x64): Don´t even try to install it under Windows 7 beta. In the middle of the installation process, something went really wrong and it started to "spam" with windows errors (the trial was downloaded directly from their official site), but of course, it didn´t want to stop the process because of its built-in own protection, so it just kept producing errors. Only shutting down windows could stop it. After the reboot, I had to remove it using Windows Install Clean Up utility, it automatically recognized the incomplete installation. However, after this story I noticed that Firefox is not able to save most downloaded files or being downloaded, means it sometimes interrupted the downloaded thinking that it had completed or after completing the download, the downloaded files just got lost (and free space recovered). The menu option to open the containing folder from within FF download manager was greyed out. Really, weird thing. The funny thing is that complete "clean" reinstall didn´t solve the issue, nor did different versions of FF.

Now, I´m backing up all my data and preparing to install Win 7 RC very soon.

Cheers,

Marin

hausman · #22 Post by **hausman** » Wed May 06, 2009 11:59 am

AllTPedOut wrote:But didn't anyone try out AVG 8.5 (free version)?? How does that compare to the current Avira version?

tomh009 wrote:It was crashing on my X200s (32-bit Vista Business) pretty much daily so I gave up on it.

I've had AVG 8.5 Free on my X61s on 32-bit Vista Business since that version came out. I have yet to see any bugs with it let alone crashes.

Have you reported your crashes on the AVG forum?

crashnburn · #23 Post by **crashnburn** » Wed May 06, 2009 5:25 pm

Johan wrote:Thanks for sharing this - I downloaded Avira Antivir Personal (the free edition) a couple of days ago, as a replacement of my hitherto AVG Free (v. 7.5, no longer supported). While Avira runs fine on mt T42p w/Win XP Pro (but in contrast seems to boot quite slow under Windows XP Home), I was a bit annoyed with the pop-ups appearing at each update. Fortunately, many people have been irritated by these advertisements, and there are ways to avoid them - for those interested have a look Disable the Avira AntiVir avnotify nag screen or How to Remove the Popup Ads in Avira Antivir etc. - works very well, and all pop-ups now gone, bye-bye!

Johan

I've used AVG Free and Avast Free. Liked both but Avast used to slow down my system and web browsing a lot, so I moved to AVG Free. Been on it .. all versions so far.

Previous AVG Free users please shed some light on Avira Free vs AVG Free?

beGi · #24 Post by **beGi** » Sat May 09, 2009 12:24 pm

Marin85 wrote:...BTW, I suspect that disabling the nag screen also disables other notification features, which is might not be recommendable...

I have it disabled and all other notifications (updates, alerts, etc.) appear like before...

mattbiernat · #25 Post by **mattbiernat** » Sat May 09, 2009 4:40 pm

i've tried both free version and the paid one. get a paid one... it makes much of a difference.

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