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Sony Vaio P Series

#1 Post by Puppy » Fri Jan 09, 2009 3:59 am

It seems as we have the netbook winner http://www.sony.com/pr/pseries (follow the Gallery link there) !
- 8" 1600x768 display
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- trackpoint :!:
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It is really sad that Lenovo didn't come up first introducing netbook with trackpoint.
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Re: Sony Vaio P Series

#2 Post by bill bolton » Fri Jan 09, 2009 9:32 pm

Puppy wrote:It seems as we have the netbook winner
Only if you regard an obscenely high price for a netbook class device as no object at all to purchase. :roll:

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Re: Sony Vaio P Series

#3 Post by OldManClayton » Sat Jan 10, 2009 11:33 am

This thing is a glorified altoid tin with no class whatsoever. Ugly as poo and way too small and oddly proportioned for me to even consider for more than 1/234235435th of a second. The screen size coupled with the high resolution would kill your eyes, and the weird long design makes the mouse buttons very inconveniently placed. Lenovo's trackpoints are the best anyway.

I don't get people's infatuation with Sony's designs. :roll:

(This post sounds meaner than it is. :lol:)
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Re: Sony Vaio P Series

#4 Post by j-dawg » Sat Jan 10, 2009 2:34 pm

Well, if you guys don't want them, pass any you get on to me. This thing looks tiny, and I love tiny computers. I really don't care too much about power or storage capacity or what have you--the smaller, the better. Of course, the cost is ridiculous, so if I were buying I'd just buy a proper netbook.
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Re: Sony Vaio P Series

#5 Post by OldManClayton » Sat Jan 10, 2009 3:02 pm

There gets to be a point when something is too small, though. :o But I'd have to see it in person before I gave my real final verdict. :lol:

Buy yerself an ideapad S10, stylish little booger that does everything right except for the lack of a trackpoint. :D
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Re: Sony Vaio P Series

#6 Post by gator » Tue Jan 13, 2009 2:14 am

$900 for that? :eek: sony-tax, I guess :roll: ...

I'm sorry to say this about sony, but except the TZ series, I haven't been impressed by any of thier laptops at all. I've seen a plenty of sony machines in school and while they look trendy, I don't think they are a good value for money. The ones that are innovative are onscenely expensive and the different lines they seem to release vanish really fast.
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#7 Post by OldManClayton » Tue Jan 13, 2009 11:17 am

Sony's design styles are hit and miss with me. Some are neat and not too flashy, but some are just kinda there. :\
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Re: Sony Vaio P Series

#8 Post by pianowizard » Tue Jan 13, 2009 1:14 pm

This netbook reminds me of the Toshiba Libretto U100, much is almost a pound heavier but has a similar form factor. It has a 7.2" 1280x768 screen, giving an astonishing pixel density of 207.2 DPI. I played with several of these Librettos and both the high pixel desity and tiny keyboard were unpleasant to use. Compared to this, my T43p's 15.0" 2048x1536 (170.7 DPI) looks huge! This Sony is even worse: 221.8 DPI! Such a density is okay for PDAs or smartphones, but not for something that's intended to be used on a desk or lap. (On the other hand, most netbook's 1024x600 is a bit too low. The HP 2133's 8.9" 1280x768 screen offers the best balance.)
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Re: Sony Vaio P Series

#9 Post by gator » Tue Jan 13, 2009 1:46 pm

I wonder how many "new" products we will see from sony in 2009/10:
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Re: Sony Vaio P Series

#10 Post by OldManClayton » Tue Jan 13, 2009 2:43 pm

I was remotely interested in the Libretto U100 once upon a time after seeing one of its ancient brothers at a used laptop place...
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Re: Sony Vaio P Series

#11 Post by qviri » Sun Jan 25, 2009 2:58 pm

OldManClayton wrote:Buy yerself an ideapad S10, stylish little booger that does everything right except for the lack of a trackpoint. :D
That's kind of like saying the Kia Amanti does everything right except for the lack of a Mercedes engine...
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Re: Sony Vaio P Series

#12 Post by OldManClayton » Sun Jan 25, 2009 4:50 pm

It's also like saying buying a Kia Amanti without a Mercedes engine is better than buying an old beater. :wink: Could have been better, but it's still good as it is. The S10 still has the other solid Lenovo features.
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Re: Sony Vaio P Series

#13 Post by TheRedFox » Mon Jan 26, 2009 12:26 am

how exactly does one calculate DPI. 'cause I just did a bunch of Math and came up with 11189dpi as the pixel density of my X31, and I'm almost positive that's wrong (I think I might have actually been calculating ppi, but even then, i'm pretty sure that i'm wrong...)
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Re: Sony Vaio P Series

#14 Post by qviri » Mon Jan 26, 2009 12:44 am

TheRedFox wrote:how exactly does one calculate DPI. 'cause I just did a bunch of Math and came up with 11189dpi as the pixel density of my X31, and I'm almost positive that's wrong (I think I might have actually been calculating ppi, but even then, i'm pretty sure that i'm wrong...)
The DPI is sqrt(x*x + y*y) / z, where x is the horizontal resolution in pixels, y is the vertical resolution, and z is the diagonal size of the screen in inches.

The X31 has sqrt(1024*1024 + 768*768)/12.1 = sqrt(1048576 + 589824) / 12.1 = sqrt(1638400)/12.1 = 1280/12.1 = 105.8 dpi.
The Vaio P has sqrt(1600*1600 + 768*768)/8.0 = 221.8 dpi.
For comparison, the WUXGA 15.4" screen (I believe the highest DPI used in Thinkpads, correct me if I am wrong) is 147.0 dpi. The UXGA 15.0" is 133.3 dpi.
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Re: Sony Vaio P Series

#15 Post by TheRedFox » Mon Jan 26, 2009 1:26 am

qviri wrote:
The DPI is sqrt(x*x + y*y) / z, where x is the horizontal resolution in pixels, y is the vertical resolution, and z is the diagonal size of the screen in inches.

The X31 has sqrt(1024*1024 + 768*768)/12.1 = sqrt(1048576 + 589824) / 12.1 = sqrt(1638400)/12.1 = 1280/12.1 = 105.8 dpi.
The Vaio P has sqrt(1600*1600 + 768*768)/8.0 = 221.8 dpi.
For comparison, the WUXGA 15.4" screen (I believe the highest DPI used in Thinkpads, correct me if I am wrong) is 147.0 dpi. The UXGA 15.0" is 133.3 dpi.
whoa. 221 is far too high. I consider my X31 to have a somewhat sharp dpi, though I'm really getting used to it, and liking it quite a bit, and that's about as sharp as I can take it, really.
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Re: Sony Vaio P Series

#16 Post by epbrown » Sat Jan 31, 2009 11:45 am

What cracks e up about the excitement over the P is even Sony is acting like this has never been done before. I've still got my old Sony Picturebook, and that model died 6 or 7 years ago with similar specs: 8.9" display with 1024x600 res, 867Mhz (fast at the time), trackpoint, the whole nine yards.
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