My Week - George Bush

[killer]

Some of you might enjoy this article ...

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/w ... 533067.ece



(All credits to The Times.)

[Kyocera]

I don't know what is more ridiculous, people who bash the president or those who promote and enjoy it. It's a tough job, bush is gone, get over it.

[goofyGAguy]

Nice to see you back on the board Mike.

[Harryc]

It's a tough job, bush is gone, get over it.

QFT ... . Welcome back Mike.

[killer]

@Kyocera,
Cheer up, old chap! I posted the article as an amusing valediction. I hope you don't take offence at a bit of humour.
Anyway, some people might see the funny side.

[Kyocera]

Thanks Harry and goofyGAguy,

killer, I don't know where in your country or mine that making fun of people for whatever reason is actually funny, it's more of a way to somehow validate ourselves as being better or smarter than someone else, which is usually never the case. It only makes oneself feel better if one is suffering from self esteem issues. This is shortlived self gratification, one should seek gratification from helping others as opposed to making fun of them or endorsing someone else making fun of them (these are typical bully characteristics).

This applies to all presidents, vice presidents, and all people in general. People who make fun and degrade others have not been validated, they have not served their fellow man, only selfishly taken from them (not in any religious sense as I am not religious, simply a human sense). They need to valiate themselves in the way some do, but they don't know how or there is an inner drive for something but they don't know how to act on it, go outside their comfort zone, so they satisfy their ego by belittleing those who are doing greater things.
Saddam Huesein a man very closely genetically aligned with Adolf Hitler no longer walks the face of this earth. America was itching to fight back after 9/11 and would have not accepted anything less than what Geroge Bush did at that time in 2001

Think about that. Look through the forum and help someone who is having a Thinkpad problem, you might feel better doing that than worrying about George Bush.

Hindsight is not wisdom. What's done is done.

I don't know any of the presidents, queens, warlords, kings, princes, of any other countries in any place in this world and I don't care about them, I only care about mine. I have no reason to make fun, belittle, or joke on anyone, they all probably have enough problems without me taking pot shots at them. What good does it do anyway.

[JaneL]

@Kyocera,
Cheer up, old chap! I posted the article as an amusing valediction. I hope you don't take offence at a bit of humour.
Anyway, some people might see the funny side.

+1 for what Mike said. Knock it off.

[killer]

If satire is wrong then Chaucer, Swift, Dryden, Byron, Frost, etc. were all wrong.

One side are Big-endians, the other Little-endians. We all want to eat the egg. Can't we have a laugh about it?

I do contribute to technical fora and I hope people appreciate that. Do a search of my postings. I mainly offer advice in the T4x area but I try to help in other areas too. I am happy to stop if you think that would help.

'Off-topic' was a zone that, I thought, offered a bit of social banter as an aside. I hoped my contributions would provide some humour to a few people worldwide.

If I have made a mistake and upset people then I am sorry.

I shall, as you say, "knock it off", although that means stealing something where I live. Maybe you wouldn't like it if I 'knocked you up' in the morning but then we developed the language and I don't wish to be eristic. We probably enjoy satire and irony because the Romans taught us ... it wasn't a tortoise that taught us.

Can't we be friendly and have a smile on our faces or is that not allowed.

I am perplexed.

[RealBlackStuff]

Hey killer,
folks here are just a bit more sensitive than in Europe.
Don't take it too hard!
As long as you don't attack any public person or institution, you should be OK here.
These forums are run under a fairly strict but also very fair regime, and that's what makes this forum so great.
Keep that in mind, and you'll enjoy many other advantages of being a part of this forum family.
I'm Irish and we are not known for abiding by the rules, but I can happily live with the rulez of this fantastic forum!

[Marin85]

@killer: Your taste and feel for humor seem to challenge over and over people all over the world

...that making fun of people for whatever reason is actually funny, it's more of a way to somehow validate ourselves as being better or smarter than someone else, which is usually never the case. It only makes oneself feel better if one is suffering from self esteem issues. This is shortlived self gratification, one should seek gratification from helping others as opposed to making fun of them or endorsing someone else making fun of them (these are typical bully characteristics).

I second that! In fact, this is what my Mom and Dad taught me when I was maybe 9-10 years old (I mean it seriously). As E.T. once said, "Be good!" However , it very much depends on the way one makes fun of someone and also why. The same way one makes fun out of himself. The human being is indeed a funny animal. We don´t make jokes about aliens, we make jokes about people, human beings, regardless of the fact if these jokes are personal (like in that case) or impersonal. Life has its funny, ironic, satiric or even sarcastic side, it is just the way we are and the life is, and we should accept it. This is a healthy understanding. Political irony and satire are simply sign for a socially and politically critical and healthy society even if they are related to politicians with perfect background and perfect decisions if such should exist anywhere at all. But then again, the kind of humor said there is a matter of taste, just the same way not every joke is a good one.

Saddam Huesein a man very closely genetically aligned with Adolf Hitler no longer walks the face of this earth. America was itching to fight back after 9/11 and would have not accepted anything less than what Geroge Bush did at that time in 2001.

Let´s leave this topic out of this thread. History can be very controversial, and different people have different information backgrounds... This thread is about humor, right?

If satire is wrong then Chaucer, Swift, Dryden, Byron, Frost, etc. were all wrong.

Of course, they were!

Can't we be friendly and have a smile on our faces or is that not allowed.

Nope!

@Kyocera: I´m happy to see you back in our forum! I have to admit I kind of missed you as you have been always very helpful to me and other forum members, I appreciate that a lot!

Thanks

Marin


EDIT: I have mistyped Mod and Dad instead of Mom and Dad. This was kind of funny...

[Harryc]

@killer...George Bush basically was responsible for the bankrupting of America. Thousands have lost/are losing jobs as we speak. Humor is not part of the equation, and most here don't have a stomach for it. Keep the spirit though, it will be part of the equation again someday. We have a new President, and it's time to rejoice and look towards the future. Your links/comments are just bad timing, nothing personal .

[goofyGAguy]

...George Bush basically was responsible for the bankrupting of America.

He had lots and lots of help in that endeavor.

[killer]

Hey killer,
folks here are just a bit more sensitive than in Europe.
Don't take it too hard!
As long as you don't attack any public person or institution, you should be OK here.
These forums are run under a fairly strict but also very fair regime, and that's what makes this forum so great.
Keep that in mind, and you'll enjoy many other advantages of being a part of this forum family.
I'm Irish and we are not known for abiding by the rules, but I can happily live with the rulez of this fantastic forum!

Slainte-mhath, RealBlackStuff! If you are ever in this part of the world I'll buy you a beer.

[killer]

@killer...George Bush basically was responsible for the bankrupting of America. Thousands have lost/are losing jobs as we speak. Humor is not part of the equation, and most here don't have a stomach for it. Keep the spirit though, it will be part of the equation again someday. We have a new President, and it's time to rejoice and look towards the future. Your links/comments are just bad timing, nothing personal .

Fair comment from you, Harry. Your point is taken. Maybe we are more attuned to having our backs against the wall. It is known as the spirit of the blitz here ... keep smiling when the bombs are falling.
We are all different, thank heavens.

[mattbiernat]

comon guys some things are just funny. sometimes we laugh at people not because we are trying to improve self esteem but because they are truely funny. comon, it's like watching jim carry movies, the guy is truely funny (or to others not funny or stupid) but to some he is funny and those to whom he is funny they are not trying to improve their self esteem. just cheer up guys and lets not make it a fight George W. Bush vs everyone else.

[dsvochak]

Harry C wrote

Humor is not part of the equation, and most here don't have a stomach for it. Keep the spirit though, it will be part of the equation again someday.

As Bob Weir wrote long ago, in Michigan we may be going to hell in a bucket, but at least we're enjoying the ride.

Humor always has to be part of the equation. There are times, like what we've got now, where one has to laugh (to keep from crying).

Mike--nice to see you back, but lighten up a little. You have to admit some of the things GW's actually said no comedian could have thought up (eg OB-GYN's not being able to practice their love of women).

[Kyocera]

Jane - Knock it off.

Jane I thought it was done, but maybe you should lock this. I didn't mean to cause a stir.

But:

The article referenced above was beyond political humor, it is disrespectful to the Office of the President of the United States. If you don't respect the man, respect the office, , the Office of the President is suffering enough without cheap shots at a man, meant in the most humilating way possible to demean, degrade, demoralize, based on schoolyard bullying tactics.

Jimmy Carter, Ronald Reagan, G Bush Sr., Bill Clinton, George Bush Jr. were all my Commanders in Chief, I respect all of them, in all their glory and tribulations. I see good and bad in all of them and choose to remember them as men who served their country and worked every single day of their lives while President to try and serve what they believed in to be right at the time. A task often overlooked and overshadowed by their mistakes.

It is my earned right (click on link below to see my old Army unit) to support and defend any and all Presidents of the United States and I will do so until they drape the U.S. Flag over my coffin and lower me down.

I can see I have an unpopular stance here, that's fine. Humiliating and making fun of people is only popular when it is encouraged. I don't buy into this.

[goofyGAguy]

You have to admit some of the things GW's actually said no comedian could have thought up (eg OB-GYN's not being able to practice their love of women).

That's almost as funny as the Obamessiah claiming to have visited 57 states in Beaverton, OR last year.

[BillMorrow]

killer..

don't worry, we won't kill the messenger..

its the message that is really crap..

i won't go into this electin again, but obama will really need to prove that he is not a politician that can stay bought but rather won that will, like most all presidents do in the end, govern from slightly right of center..
(see a newsweek article from early nov. 08)

also, politicians all get raked over the coals and/or burned at the stake but that rag you quoted is just plain fishwrap..

you did nothing wrong here..

but maybe we here in the US are a little more sensitive than the brits and europeans..
(who, BTW, seem to have their own problems with radical islam taking over)