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CIA?bill bolton wrote:Does anyone else think that a commercial vessel crewed, seemingly, entirely by US mariners is a bit odd?
Commercial marine crews are almost entirley from places other than the major Western nations nowadays, with perhaps at most one or two Westerners in a crew.
It was a US Flag vessel (unlike most that fly a flag of convenience), covered under the Jones Act. Because it was transporting relief aid from the US to a foreign country (Kenya), it was not unusual that it is a Jones Act vessel.bill bolton wrote:Does anyone else think that a commercial vessel crewed, seemingly, entirely by US mariners is a bit odd?
Commercial marine crews are almost entirley from places other than the major Western nations nowadays, with perhaps at most one or two Westerners in a crew.
http://www.global-container-lines.com/g ... s0001.htmlUnder U.S. cargo preference rules, the federal government requires that 75 percent of U.S.-financed food-aid shipments be transported on U.S.-flag ships. The Maritime Administration ensures that the food-aid agencies follow the cargo preference rules.
http://www.apl.com/boomerangbox/d15.htmA U.S. Flag vessel is required to employ an American crew...
http://www.fsa.usda.gov/Internet/FSA_Fi ... 080416.pdfI thought this might be a good opportunity to talk about the role of the U.S.-flag merchant marine in the delivery of food aid. I’m going to focus in particular on how U.S.-flag vessels differ from foreign-flag vessels, why cargo preference is so vital, what is significant about the way cargo preference works, and how we can make ocean transportation more efficient.
Requirements like whether the crew must be of a certain nationality or whether the vessel owner pays taxes are decided by and large by the flag state.
Foreign-flag vessels documented in countries like Panama, Liberia and Belize impose only modest, if any, health and safety regulations, virtually no labor laws, and often lax environmental requirements upon the vessels they register. Foreign-flag vessel owners often pay their seafarers a third world wage and neither the vessel owners nor the seafarers pay taxes.
In contrast, U.S.-flag ship owners pay their U.S. citizen crews wages, as well as private health and pension benefits that are among the highest in the world.
Cargo preference laws require, as you know, that when the U.S. Government pays for and ships a cargo, a portion of these government-impelled cargoes must move in privately owned U.S.-flag vessels. This has been the law since the early 1950s when the U.S. Government started shipping more and more international cargoes and was first codified in the same year that PL 480 was enacted. For Department of Defense shipments, 100 percent of such cargoes must be carried under the U.S. flag. For food-aid cargoes, the requirement has been 75 percent since 1985 so long as U.S.-flag vessels are available at fair and reasonable rates.
Yes, i thought that too... I know that officers are "Westerners" in 90+% cases, and the rest of the crew is mostly made by Asians or Africans...bill bolton wrote:Does anyone else think that a commercial vessel crewed, seemingly, entirely by US mariners is a bit odd?
Ofcourse there is no correlation (and even if there was, one couldn't know what is cause and what is consequencekiller wrote:There is no correlation between pirates and global warming
)...Although I agree that they could do much more, global warming is inevitable and all what we can do is postpone it...killer wrote:US and China have done to cause it and how little they have done to prevent it from getting worse
Scott, I don't believe these are pirates in the "literal" sense of the word. It would be possible to include them if their appearance included one or more of the following characteristics:So, do software, music and video pirates count? I knew we were saving the world.
Exactly.dsvochak wrote:And besides, can you prove there isn’t a causal relationship?
Kyocera wrote:It would be possible to include them if their appearance included one or more of the following characteristics:
Wearing an eyepatch <--- with my -4.25, toric contacts, that's close enough
Sporting a parrot on shoulder <--- until a couple of months ago, I did have a parrot on my shoulder a lot
Using the term "aaarrrggh" a lot <--- constantly, when dealing with a teenager
Having a hook on one or more arms <--- hmm... does hookworm qualify? My cats can probably give me a case
Wooden leg or teeth <--- got a root canal earlier this year, but it wasn't filled with sawdust
and thus arrested and processed.!
OK, that is too funny - you owe me a keyboard and maybe a screen!Kyocera wrote:The facts are obvious here, that when 35,000 eye patch wearing, shoulder parrot sporting pirates look up into the sky on a sunny day their black (only accepted color of eye patch for real Pirates) eye patch will absorb the light, thus not reflecting the sun’s rays but absorbing them, this does not hurt the pirate but actually triggers a part of the neural system in the brain which causes a vocal response, “aarrghhh” is the familiar response as we know it today.
Now it's time to start the "What was Jane sipping on when she read this?" contest.JaneL wrote:OK, that is too funny - you owe me a keyboard and maybe a screen!
(wanders off looking for a towel to mop up the mess)
The winner gets the old keyboard and screen!No one in this thread misunderstands the gravity of the situation, however most of us do see the humor in the absurd notion of lack of pirate eye patch surface area affecting global warming in the article that Kyocera dug up. Not everything in life has to be serious, and there's humor to be found in most situations.killer wrote:Maybe it is too far away for your country for you to understand the gravity of the situation?
Pirates are evil.
im sorry but you got the definition of a terrorist wrong. a terrorist is a person who intentionally kills/hurts/scares civilian population to achieve a specific political outcome.killer wrote:Pirates are terrorists, and always have been.
Oh right, I was wondering why you were getting wrapped around the axle. I spent 20+ years in the US Army, so I understand a little bit about global politics, war, my country, etc.@Kyocera: I am puzzled.
A few months ago I posted a sarcastic article from the Times
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I think scurvey will be our main problem whilst at sea, vitamins will help to keep us sailing. .Even if we hold our ThinkPads up to add to the surface area?dsvochak wrote:Now I see I was clearly mistaken. Black alone is insufficient.
Some of us would need a ship's crew in order to perform this task! If we arrange ourselves in a perfect 1:4:9 configuration (holding on to our Thinkpads), would that cause Jupiter to condense into a sun and allow life on Europa to flourish?JaneL wrote:Even if we hold our ThinkPads up to add to the surface area?
Yes, but that would also be a signal for Flying Spaghetti Monster to come and noodle us...rkawakami wrote:If we arrange ourselves in a perfect 1:4:9 configuration (holding on to our Thinkpads), would that cause Jupiter to condense into a sun and allow life on Europa to flourish?
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