Can a folder be deleted from a DVD-R?

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Can a folder be deleted from a DVD-R?

#1 Post by heeltoejoe » Sun Sep 06, 2009 10:27 pm

I inadvertently deleted a folder from what I thought was a blank DVD then burned a Powerpoint presentation to the disc. The folder I deleted contained my only backups of 3 years of family photos. The folder with the photos were on a DVD-R 4.7 Gig Verbatim disc. The properties window for the disc shows that it still has a large amount of data on it but the folder isn't showing up on Windows Explorer. I did some online research and everywhere I looked with information on the subject states it's not possible to delete files from a DVD-R. Can anyone offer an explanation why my folder disappeared and if it is possible for me to retrieve my precious photos?

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Re: Can a folder be deleted from a DVD-R?

#2 Post by yak » Sun Sep 06, 2009 10:41 pm

If I understand you correctly you have a multisession DVD-R disc. This means that you burned some files to it without closing the disc and then in a second burn session, deleted these files and added some new ones.

If that's the case then yes, it is possible to delete files from such a disc. Since DVD-R (not DVD-RW) discs may be written to only once, this works by marking the files as deleted which makes the Windows Explorer (or any other file manager) not to display them. But the files are still there and may be recovered.

The key word here is "multisession". Google for "multisession recovery" which should get you to some software offering a recovery option.
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Re: Can a folder be deleted from a DVD-R?

#3 Post by loyukfai » Mon Sep 07, 2009 12:34 am

I've tried using IsoBuster before and it worked (for me), but the trial version has limitations and the PRO version costs $29.95.

If there are free or open source alternatives, I would like to know.

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Re: Can a folder be deleted from a DVD-R?

#4 Post by GomJabbar » Mon Sep 07, 2009 6:14 am

PhotoRec worked wonders for me on an accidently formatted SD card.

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Re: Can a folder be deleted from a DVD-R?

#5 Post by moronoxyd » Mon Sep 07, 2009 7:07 am

A multisession DVD-R is nothing like a formatted SD card.

Usually when one adds a second session to a multisession CD/DVD a new directory containing the files from the old and the new session is created. If one "deletes" the data from old sessions, the new directory doesn't contain the information where on the CD/DVD the data can be found.

But the data itself is still there, as is the old directory from the first session.

So one needs a programm that recognizes multisession CDs/DVDs and offers not to read the newest directory but an older one.
Isobuster does that, some recording software do that as well.

As far as I remember (haven't uses Isobuster in years), the free version does show all sessions.
So you should give the free isobuster a try.


(On a formatted SD card/harddrive/floppy the directory itself is deleted, there is no old version of the directory left. Plus there is the risc that subsequent write operations have overwritten some of the data one is looking for.
That can not happen on a CD-R/DVD+-R. It will happen on a CD-RW/DVD-RW if it is cleared/erased, as this is a process similar to formating.)
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Re: Can a folder be deleted from a DVD-R?

#6 Post by GomJabbar » Mon Sep 07, 2009 7:20 am

I know there are differences between DVD's and SD cards. Nevertheless, the PhotoRec website says it works with DVD's and CDROM's - even multisession ones. It looks like it may require the Linux version of PhotoRec for some types of recovery.

http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/PhotoRec_Step_By_Step

http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/CDRW
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Re: Can a folder be deleted from a DVD-R?

#7 Post by heeltoejoe » Mon Sep 07, 2009 8:33 am

Rereading my original post I see that I had not made the issue completely clear. This was NOT a multi-session recording to a new disc. In the drive was a one-year old DVD-R with 3 years of saved photos. I had saved these photos in one recording session and they were in one folder on the DVD-R. I had thought there was a blank disc in the drive and when I tried to save new data to the disc a folder shows up on the file tree "Family Photos". Without thinking I deleted the folder and saved the new data to the disc :(

I will look closely at the recommendations offered in the replies and try to recover the data. Thank you all for offering your support. My day will be a lot less stressful knowing I have a chance at recovering the files. Happy Labor Day!!!! Heeltoe

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Re: Can a folder be deleted from a DVD-R?

#8 Post by yak » Mon Sep 07, 2009 8:58 am

I fail to see the difference. A multisession mode means that you burn data to a disc in a couple of sessions, even in yearly intervals if you like. Besides adding files in each session until the disc fills up, you can delete them but the occupied space won't be freed because of how the DVD-R technology works. Data once burned can't be erased. You just don't see the files and need special tools to get them back.

If your photos weren't burned in a multisession mode year ago, then you would not be able to delete or save anything to the disc anymore. You say you were, so it has to be a multisession disc.
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Re: Can a folder be deleted from a DVD-R?

#9 Post by heeltoejoe » Mon Sep 07, 2009 10:03 am

Understood. Thanks Yak. I'll look for the multi-session recovery software tomorrow and give it a try. More later. Heeltoe

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Re: Can a folder be deleted from a DVD-R?

#10 Post by Marin85 » Mon Sep 07, 2009 1:47 pm

Another similar utility specialized on recovering photos on various file systems is PhotoRescue. It has somewhat advanced functionality, which increases the chance of successful recovery. The only downside is that it is not free :(
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Re: Can a folder be deleted from a DVD-R?

#11 Post by GomJabbar » Mon Sep 07, 2009 3:00 pm

Marin85 wrote:Another similar utility specialized on recovering photos on various file systems is PhotoRescue. It has somewhat advanced functionality, which increases the chance of successful recovery. The only downside is that it is not free :(
Oops! PhotoRescue was the one I used, not PhotoRec. Faulty circuits upstairs! :oops:

Yeah, PhotoRescue works great!
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Re: Can a folder be deleted from a DVD-R?

#12 Post by Marin85 » Mon Sep 07, 2009 3:15 pm

GomJabbar wrote:Oops! PhotoRescue was the one I used, not PhotoRec. Faulty circuits upstairs! :oops:
I know -> http://forum.thinkpads.com/viewtopic.ph ... 62#p457562 :)
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Re: Can a folder be deleted from a DVD-R?

#13 Post by heeltoejoe » Wed Sep 16, 2009 11:43 am

OK. I downloaded the free version of Isobuster and the software found my missing files! In order to transfer the files, however, I was forced to pay the $29.95 for the software. A small price for 3 years of saved family photos. Thanks-a-million for the help guys!

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