Serious problem with Firefox

[Bookworm]

Several times recently, I have attempted to access a web site with Firefox 3.5 (most recently https://www.ad.no/pdf/IBM/Thinkpad/_TP_fam_teknisk.pdf ) and instead of connecting, I get the false error message "This Connection is Untrusted" and Firefox refuses to connect to the site.

I don't care if it's the computer virus archive, if I tell the computer to connect to a web site, IT WILL CONNECT. I own the computer. It will obey me. Mozilla appears to be run by the same kind of scum as Adobe. They think they own my computer and tell me what to do with it. (The last version of Acrobat reader for Windows 2000 upgrades itself without permission to the latest version, making it incompatible with the system it's on. I tried to uninstall it and it took the operating system with it. If I had the money I'd have prosecuted those dirtbags for vandalism.)

Is there a way to repair Firefox so it will do what I tell it to do? Or do I have to use ie just to get a pdf?

BTW, what state is Mozilla in, and what is the address of their attorney general?

[Kyocera]

I know you are kind of serious but. that is funny.

I don't care if it's the computer virus archive, if I tell the computer to connect to a web site, IT WILL CONNECT. I own the computer. It will obey me.

Remove and reinstall?

Alas the age of more software control of our PC's is only in it's infancy.

[qviri]

That site has a problem with its SSL certificate. It's a serious issue most often resulting from a scamming attempt. Nevertheless, most browsers give you an option to proceed anyway. I know Opera does and so does IE. I don't have Firefox handy right now, but I seem to recall it presents options that more or less say "get me out of here" and "I understand the risks and want to proceed".

[qviri]

Fired up my browsers VM...

These screenshots are taken with Firefox 3.5.3 on Windows XP:

http://bin.piorkowski.ca/ff-certificate-warning/ff1.png
http://bin.piorkowski.ca/ff-certificate-warning/ff2.png

After clicking "Confirm Security Exception" the PDF loads as expected.

[qviri]

And one more thing:

I don't care if it's the computer virus archive, if I tell the computer to connect to a web site, IT WILL CONNECT.

There is no way for Firefox to know if you've told it to connect, or if the page was opened by malware on your computer or maliciously linked from elsewhere on the internet. It warns you in case you didn't know it was a computer virus archive, and gives you an opportunity to override if you wish.

[Bookworm]

> I know you are kind of serious but. that is funny.

I guess it was. I get a little grouchy about this kind of thing.

> Alas the age of more software control of our PC's is only in it's infancy.

That's why I still use my Tandy Color Computer 3 and NorthStar Horizon. I am in control. BTW, this is why free people hate socialism. The government controls what it pays for. Apparently free software publishers have the same attitude. (Maybe I should have put this rant in the EU thread.)

> Firefox handy right now, but I seem to recall it presents options that more or less say
> "get me out of here" and "I understand the risks and want to proceed".

It want's me to add the site to a list of exceptions. I don't have to add it to anything. Firefox has to do what I tell it to do.

If Mozilla is so concerned about protecting users, including a warning is fine, but controlling the user is not acceptable.

[qviri]

> Firefox handy right now, but I seem to recall it presents options that more or less say
> "get me out of here" and "I understand the risks and want to proceed".

It want's me to add the site to a list of exceptions. I don't have to add it to anything. Firefox has to do what I tell it to do.

If Mozilla is so concerned about protecting users, including a warning is fine, but controlling the user is not acceptable.

It is open source, so if you like you can create your own version which won't require you to go to length of adding an exception for a malformed SSL certificate, or pay somebody else to do it

[Bookworm]

> It is open source, so if you like you can create your own version which won't require you
> to go to length of adding an exception for a malformed SSL certificate, or pay somebody
> else to do it

How convenient. I might as well write my own browser, designed for complete safety of the computer (make it impossible to install anything without user consent - isolate it from the OS and other applications, like OS/2 does to prevent crashing) but more importantly, for the complete freedom and privacy of the user. The only problem is that it would be abused by perverts. Too bad hackers don't destroy "those" sites.

The biggest problem with writing my own software is that it will be for one of my antiques, not the pc.

[ArtShapiro]

You might be able to suppress this checking - and I don't recommend it - by typing about:config into the URL and double-clicking browser.xul.error_pages.expert_bad_cert to turn its value from the default False to True.

This isn't guaranteed, but will only cost you a few seconds to try.

Art (who would much rather view "perverted" pages than the bible!)

[A31]

Which OS do you have?? I have Firefox 3.5, hardly ever use it though.

Just stick with IE8 - no slower than Firefox from what I can see (run it on both my laptops, well, only one of them now as one is broken), but if you really MUST have Firefox then I would just remove and reinstall it as some people have said before. It may well work.