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IBM and Nazi germany

#1 Post by wgg » Sun Jul 18, 2010 6:40 am

I am not trying to have a go at IBM as they are a great company and they are very equal but I was wondering if anybody else knew about IBM's involvement with Nazi germany?
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#2 Post by RealBlackStuff » Sun Jul 18, 2010 7:07 am

Not really a topic for a LAPTOP forum, is it now?
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#3 Post by wgg » Sun Jul 18, 2010 7:13 am

Well that s why it is in OFF-TOPIC and it is to do with IBM
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#4 Post by Harryc » Sun Jul 18, 2010 7:18 am

I don't see any harm in discussing this topic. We'll allow it.

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#5 Post by wgg » Sun Jul 18, 2010 7:19 am

Thankyou, Harryc
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#6 Post by Eudoxus » Sun Jul 18, 2010 7:58 am

williamgeorgegardner wrote:I am not trying to have a go at IBM as they are a great company and they are very equal but I was wondering if anybody else knew about IBM's involvement with Nazi germany?
And what was the nature of the involvement?

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#7 Post by wgg » Sun Jul 18, 2010 8:25 am

According to wikipedia:
IBM has acknowledged that the company’s subsidiary Dehomag sold unit record (punched card) equipment and data processing technology and services to Nazi Germany.[38]

In 2001, a book by Edwin Black was released contending that IBM played an integral administrative part in the systematic genocide of the European Jewish community from 1939 to 1944, by helping the Nazis organize and coordinate their efforts toward gathering and organizing all available information about their victims[39] by leasing their punched card equipment and support services to the Third Reich. This provided significant help in dealing with the massive administrative task of the 'Final Solution', with sizable profits for IBM.[40] IBM denies that it had control over its subsidiaries after the Nazis took control of them. However, Black, based on sources including "recently discovered Nazi documents and testimony of former Polish workers", states that in addition to the Dehomag connection, a large amount of the technology arrived via "a subsidiary in Poland, Watson Business Machines in Warsaw, which reported directly to the IBM New York headquarters."[41]

Simultaneously with the release of Black’s book, a lawsuit was filed against IBM based on these allegations. The lawsuit was voluntarily dismissed by the plaintiffs in the interest of advancing a concurrent claim in German courts.[42]
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#8 Post by JaneL » Sun Jul 18, 2010 8:36 am

Old news that's been discussed here before.
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#9 Post by wgg » Sun Jul 18, 2010 8:38 am

Okay, sorry about that feel free to close the topic or what evert action you deem nesacerry
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#10 Post by Eudoxus » Sun Jul 18, 2010 4:06 pm

JaneL wrote:Old news that's been discussed here before.
Can you post a link to that discussion?

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#12 Post by Eudoxus » Sun Jul 18, 2010 5:30 pm

Thanks!

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#13 Post by rkawakami » Sun Jul 18, 2010 11:16 pm

Forum Cardinal Rule #7 ( http://forum.thinkpads.com/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=14339 ) states that members may only maintain a single account. Since it appears that you were previously posting as "comptechexpert" and you haven't used it in several months, I've deactivated that account.
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#14 Post by wgg » Mon Jul 19, 2010 9:56 am

Thanks I appreciate that I totally forgot to do that so I am sorry to cause any trouble.
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