Debian Squeeze on TP 770, can't get power management working

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Debian Squeeze on TP 770, can't get power management working

#1 Post by Kristian-770 » Thu Nov 10, 2011 7:06 pm

Hi all,
I have this wonderful machine and would really like to use it. But, I can't for the life of me get neither APM nor ACPI working. I don't need advanced functionality, I just like being able top shut down the machine with a command and not having to press the button as I tend to forget doing that...

BIOS info says IDET30WW, 12/16/98 - I guess this is the one it was born with, and I'm nervous to try updating it.
This is my dmesg: http://pastebin.com/L8FhVrgz

I have tried all the boot flags I could think of, no luck. Also tried getting a newer kernel and some module hack for APM... no luck. I would be grateful if someone can help.

Kristian

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Re: Debian Squeeze on TP 770, can't get power management working

#2 Post by mnowell69 » Sat Nov 12, 2011 12:28 am

Have you tried the THINKWIKI website??

http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/How_to_make_APM_work
TP 380Z (2635-JGU), TP 240 (2609-21G), TP 240X (2609-62G), TP X61t (7762-B6G), TP 770 (9548-30U), TP770ED (9549-5AU), TP 770X (9549-720), TP 701C (2630-TF4), TP Z61P (0674-KSG), TP 750 (9545), Transnote (2675)

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Re: Debian Squeeze on TP 770, can't get power management working

#3 Post by Kristian-770 » Sat Nov 12, 2011 6:48 am

Hi mnowell69,
Yes, I have been there... it is weird that I get the kernel errors that I do, considering apm.ko is very much there.

You seem to have a 770 as well - which OS do you run on it, and does APM/ACPI work properly?

Kristian

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Re: Debian Squeeze on TP 770, can't get power management working

#4 Post by mnowell69 » Sat Nov 12, 2011 7:15 am

I have one with factory win 95 installation, 1 with factory upgraded to 98 and 2 with win 2000. I hope to try win xp on my 770x once my new memory sticks have arrived. Naturally the APM works with no issues under windows, and i have never tried to use linux on them because i am using them for old gadgets etc that need legacy windows support. Sorry i couldn't help you further
TP 380Z (2635-JGU), TP 240 (2609-21G), TP 240X (2609-62G), TP X61t (7762-B6G), TP 770 (9548-30U), TP770ED (9549-5AU), TP 770X (9549-720), TP 701C (2630-TF4), TP Z61P (0674-KSG), TP 750 (9545), Transnote (2675)

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Re: Debian Squeeze on TP 770, can't get power management working

#5 Post by Kristian-770 » Sat Nov 12, 2011 7:47 am

Linux is usually working very well on TP's, also legacy models. I recently put Debian on a 380Z and the performance was swell, with everything working out of the box.

Have you managed to upgrade the BIOS on the 770's without a diskette drive?

Kristian

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Re: Debian Squeeze on TP 770, can't get power management working

#6 Post by mnowell69 » Sat Nov 12, 2011 9:17 am

I haven't actually tried updating without a diskette drive. I have 5 spare drives sitting around the house so i have no problems.
TP 380Z (2635-JGU), TP 240 (2609-21G), TP 240X (2609-62G), TP X61t (7762-B6G), TP 770 (9548-30U), TP770ED (9549-5AU), TP 770X (9549-720), TP 701C (2630-TF4), TP Z61P (0674-KSG), TP 750 (9545), Transnote (2675)

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Re: Debian Squeeze on TP 770, can't get power management working

#7 Post by Kristian-770 » Sat Nov 12, 2011 11:02 am

I found this, looks good like I am on my way to something!
http://dag.wieers.com/howto/thinkpad/770/

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Re: Debian Squeeze on TP 770, can't get power management working

#8 Post by Kristian-770 » Sat Nov 12, 2011 4:17 pm

Found this also, been trying to burn a cd with the modified file, but no luck... I boot into the update utility, but I still get the missing battery error:
http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions ... it-463906/

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Re: Debian Squeeze on TP 770, can't get power management working

#9 Post by Kristian-770 » Sat Nov 12, 2011 6:49 pm


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Re: Debian Squeeze on TP 770, can't get power management working

#10 Post by Kristian-770 » Sat Nov 12, 2011 7:39 pm

Okay, I managed to update the BIOS! I will put the info in the general 770 thread...

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Re: Debian Squeeze on TP 770, can't get power management working

#11 Post by mnowell69 » Sun Nov 13, 2011 4:08 pm

don't you have a functioning battery in your 770? or is the bios hack useful for a cd rom bios update?
TP 380Z (2635-JGU), TP 240 (2609-21G), TP 240X (2609-62G), TP X61t (7762-B6G), TP 770 (9548-30U), TP770ED (9549-5AU), TP 770X (9549-720), TP 701C (2630-TF4), TP Z61P (0674-KSG), TP 750 (9545), Transnote (2675)

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Re: Debian Squeeze on TP 770, can't get power management working

#12 Post by Kristian-770 » Sun Nov 13, 2011 6:58 pm

The hack lets you install from CD without a battery - there's a description in the main 770 thread.

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Re: Debian Squeeze on TP 770, can't get power management working

#13 Post by pkiff » Sun Nov 13, 2011 9:13 pm

Kristian-770,

Glad that you figured out how to get your BIOS udpated. I've moved your posting about how to update the BIOS without a floppy over to its own thread here:
770 BIOS Upgrade from CD instead of Floppy

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Re: Debian Squeeze on TP 770, can't get power management working

#14 Post by Kristian-770 » Mon Nov 14, 2011 7:47 am

Hi Phil,
I hope someone can use the BIOS info.

As for the APM, I am still struggling... I have confirmed that these Distros have working APM
- Last [censored] Small Linux that was produced (4.4.10) - it holds a 2.4.* kernel
- Last [censored] Small Linux Not! that was produced (01RC4) - it holds a 2.6.* kernel
(I am not at home and thus unable to give the exact kernel names)

So, it should be possible to make a circa 2.6.20 kernel work with Debian... I have had no luck compiling it this far, though.
Also, this is of interest: http://dag.wieers.com/howto/thinkpad/770/ - he has the .config for a 2.4.4 kernel.
Here is someone talking about running Fedora on the machine with a fairly recent kernel: http://www.linux-laptop.net/hosted/thin ... 0-fc5.html

So... I have a feeling I could make it work with Debian Squeeze and a properly configured kernel - anyone here with a 770 model and good maketools skills? ;)

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Re: Debian Squeeze on TP 770, can't get power management working

#15 Post by Kristian-770 » Tue Nov 29, 2011 12:49 pm

I figured it out finally! Posted it here as it is really a software problem:
http://www.thinkpads.com/forum/viewtopi ... 88#p657088

K.

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