Legacy Thinkpad 365ED problem

[ti.koellner]

Hey there!

My name is Tom and I'm new to this forum.

I started collecting legacy IBM machines and some time ago I found some pristine looking Thinkpad 365ED. As I can see, there isn't much info and resources regarding this actual model - it's really not popular, as opposed to 760, etc. (which I also own, next to X230, W530 or R30).

I wanted to ask you guys if there is any place I can get bios update for this model? I've done some research, but no successs.

I also wanted to ask about PCMCIA Compact Flash support. I have inserted FAT16 formatted CF card (16 bit Sandisk adapter). The led is flashing, but Freedos (i did not installed nor want to install any Windows) does not recognize any additional drive. Do you by any chance know the solution?

Best regards,
Tom

[RealBlackStuff]

Welcome to the Forum.

Here's a link to some more 365ED info: http://ps-2.kev009.com/eprmhtml/epr2b/h4570.htm

Maybe someone also has a BIOS file? Wait and see (and be patient...)

[danikayser84]

The BIOS file update can be found on any IBM PCCBBS mirror, search for "S36B2141.EXE" (notice: only for 365/C/CS/CD/E/ED, NOT for 365X/XD which use a different BIOS file)... probably need a working battery to update however?

365 was not as popular as 760/755, I believe it was the consumer model of the time

[ilakast]

disk 1 of 2
http://download.lenovo.com/ibmdl/pub/pc ... 6b2141.exe
disk 2 of 2
http://download.lenovo.com/ibmdl/pub/pc ... 6b2142.exe
info
http://download.lenovo.com/ibmdl/pub/pc ... 6b214x.txt

IBM ThinkPad* 365C/365CS/365CD/365CSD/365E/365ED July 23, 1996

System Program Service Diskette Ver 2.0.14
==========================================


What This Diskette Does
-----------------------

This System Program Service diskette updates the system program stored
in ROM of the following ThinkPad models:

- ThinkPad 365C, 365CS, 365CD, 365CSD, 365E, 365ED.

There are two diskettes included in this release. Diskette 1 is used
for the following countries/languages:

- United States (English)
- Danish
- Finnish
- French
- German
- Italian
- Japanese

Diskette 2 is used for the following countries/languages:

- Dutch
- Norwegian
- Portuguese
- Spanish
- Swedish
- United Kindom (English)

If you are experiencing one of the problems listed in the following
Summary of Problem Fixes section, please follow the instructions given
in the Updating System Programs section below to update the system
program of the above-listed ThinkPad computer.



Release Version
---------------

Version 1.0.03 Supports 365C, 365CS, 365CD, 365CSD.
Version 2.0.07 Supports 365E, 365ED and Corrective Service for
365C, 365CS, 365CD, 365CSD.
Version 2.0.10 Supports 365E, 365ED and Corrective Service for
365C, 365CS, 365CD, 365CSD.
Version 2.0.13 Supports 365E, 365ED and Corrective Service for
365C, 365CS, 365CD, 365CSD.
Version 2.0.14 Supports 365E, 365ED and Corrective Service for
365C, 365CS, 365CD, 365CSD.

BIOS Date Matrix
----------------

Ver. Date 365C/365CS/365CD 365E/365ED
365CSD
------ ---------- -------- -------------
1.0.03 11/20/1995 Supported Not Supported
2.0.07 3/21/1996 Supported Supported
2.0.10 4/30/1996 Supported Supported
2.0.13 6/04/1996 Supported Supported
2.0.14 7/23/1996 Supported Supported


Summary of changed/ fixed items
-------------------------------
Note: n.n.nn : Diskette Version (e.g. 1.0.03 implies Version 1.0.03).
(New) : New Function or Enhancement


ThinkPad 365C, 365CS, 365CD, 365CSD, 365E, 365ED
-------------------------------------------------

2.0.07 Supports 5x86C CPU.
2.0.07 The system powers-off automatically, when you shut-down
Windows** 95.
2.0.07 Resolves the keyboard problem if you exit the BIOS Setup
screen (CTRL+ALT+F11) in DOS from Windows, without saving.
(ALT key appears stuck)
2.0.10 Resolves the mouse problem when the system is Resumed, from
Suspend by lid closure.
2.0.13 Resolves the problem of using External MIDI device. Please
note that the following "Input/Output Range" values should
be used for the Audio Device:
Input/Output Range: 0220-022F
Input/Output Range: 0388-038B
Input/Output Range: 0330-0331

Resolves the system hang problem, during lid closure while
using a PCMCIA Communication card and running on AC power.

Resolves the problem of using certain combinations of Keyboards
and External mouse.

2.0.14 Resolves NEC Memory timimg problem with ThinkPad 365C/CS/CD/CSD.

Displays the correct BIOS Level in the Personalization Screen.



Updating System Programs
------------------------

Notes: - You need an AC adapter and a charged battery pack to update
the system program.

1. Print these instructions or display on another computer.
2. Firmly connect the AC adapter to the computer.
3. Attach the diskette drive to the computer if you are using a
ThinkPad 365CD/CSD/ED.
4. Insert the System Program Service Diskette for your
country/language into the diskette drive and turn on the computer.
Follow the instructions on the screen.

Warning: Do not turn off or suspend the computer until the update
has been completed. IF YOU TURN OFF OR SUSPEND THE
COMPUTER WHILE THE UPDATE IS STILL IN PROGRESS, THE SYSTEM
BOARD MAY HAVE TO BE REPLACED.

5. A message will flash on the screen when the update has been
completed. Remove the System Program Service Diskette from the A:
Drive when the message appears and reboot the system.

Your ThinkPad 365 is now updated with the new BIOS and is ready to
be used.


The BIOS version and date are shown in the upper left corner of the
screen whenever the system is booted.


Service Information
-------------------

Following is the Upper Memory Map for systems with BIOS dated
before 2/2/96:

A000 - AFFF EGA/VGA Graphics
B000 - B7FF Available UMB
B800 - BFFF CGA/EGA/VGA Text
C000 - C9FF Video BIOS
CA00 - CFFF Available UMB - Can NOT be used for PCMCIA
D000 - DFFF Available UMB - Can be used for PCMCIA
E000 - E5FF System Setup
E600 - E9FF Available UMB - Can NOT be used for PCMCIA
EA00 - EFFF Power Management
F000 - FFFF System BIOS

When using OS/2 Warp 3.0 with this level of BIOS you must have the
following statement in the CONFIG.SYS file for proper PCMCIA
operation:

BASEDEV=RESERVE.SYS /MEM:CA00,6000



Following is the Upper Memory Map for systems with BIOS dated on or
after 2/2/96:

A000 - AFFF EGA/VGA Graphics
B000 - B7FF Available UMB
B800 - BFFF CGA/EGA/VGA Text
C000 - C5FF System Setup
C600 - C7FF Available UMB - Can NOT be used for PCMCIA
C800 - DFFF Available UMB - Can be used for PCMCIA
E000 - E9FF Video BIOS
EA00 - EFFF Power Management
F000 - FFFF System BIOS

When using OS/2 Warp 3.0 with this level of BIOS you must have the
following statement in the CONFIG.SYS file for proper PCMCIA
operation:

BASEDEV=RESERVE.SYS /MEM:C600,2000


The Upper memory map can change with new levels of BIOS


For Windows 95** Users
----------------------
This release of BIOS includes Plug and Play resource information for the
IRDA infrared port. Windows 95 does not currently load any drivers for
this port when it is recognized, so you may encounter problems running
Puma Tranxit or other Windows based IR applications. To correct this
problem perform the following steps:

1. Boot up the system to Windows 95 desktop.

2. Go to the Device Manager.
Go to the Ports. "REMOVE" all COM Ports.
(Do NOT reboot).

3. Go to MSDOS prompt. Go to C:\WINDOWS\INF directory.
Type EDIT MSPORTS.INF and press ENTER.
Go to "STD" section of this file.
Change the following statement:

%*PNP0510.DeviceDesc% = NoDrv, *PNP0510 ; IRDA Communications port

TO:

%*PNP0510.DeviceDesc% = ComPort, *PNP0510; IRDA Communications port

4. Save the changes and reboot the machine.

5. Verify that the "Ports" in the Device Manager show the following:
-- Communications Port (COM1)
-- ECP Printer Port (LPT1)
-- Generic IRDA Compatible Device (COM2).



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** Trademark of Microsoft Corporation.


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NOTE:

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ALL WARRANTIES OF ANY KIND, EITHER EXPRESS OR IMPLIED, INCLUDING,
WITHOUT LIMITATION, IMPLIED WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY AND FITNESS
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limitation, incidental, direct, indirect special and consequential
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[ti.koellner]

Thanks a lot guys!

I have already made to get the bios update. I just love this machine is 5x86. The only thing I still want to do is to get some 640x480 TFT to replace this [censored] - yet retro - DSTN. I already got the bezel from 365XD (which I got for parts), but unfortunatelly it has a hi-res (;) 800x600 TFT.