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ThinkPad 701CS - How to get files on and off it?

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ThinkPad 701CS - How to get files on and off it?

#1 Post by MaxVCad » Mon May 27, 2019 6:12 pm

I won a 701CS auction on eBay a few days ago which I'm extremely excited for. I'm embarrassed to say however that I didn't realize this machine has absolutely NO useful ports on it. It seems that even the 'printer' port on the side is not your standard parallel port but instead one of the proprietary ThinkPad external floppy disk drive ports.. At least I hope it is, because I have an external floppy drive and cable for my 365XD. If IBM made multiple versions of that I might start pulling may hair out. Although just a floppy ain't gonna do me much good.

My intention was to fix the hardware to where the computer works and then load it with the stock Windows 3.11 / OS/2 using the ThinkPad Preload / loadsoft.exe program we're all familiar with. I have an adapter to plug in a 2.5" drive into my regular PC, assuming this hard drive is like the one in my 365XD and not some kind of proprietary connector like in the 755CD. If that's the case, can I just plug it into my computer, transfer all the software preload files to the HDD and then run loadsoft.exe from the HDD using a DOS boot disk in the external floppy? Similar to how I installed Windows 95 on the 365XD?

If that's not possible due to connector / software limitations, what's my cheapest option for a dock? Would it be the Port Replicator? It seems like Dock I and II go for many hundreds of dollars but that the Port Replicator can be had for between $60 and $120. I'm still pretty disappointed that I might need to buy another piece just to get this done, I'm really hoping I can just remove the HDD and plug it into my regular PC for data transfers. In my defense, the reason I thought the computer had a regular parallel port was because ThinkWiki told me it does! :(

Is there an adapter for the floppy port that can turn that into a parallel port? I think I've seen them around but have no clue what to search for to get one.

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Re: ThinkPad 701CS - How to get files on and off it?

#2 Post by Bondi » Tue May 28, 2019 2:21 am

Maybe the caddy of the HDD can be disassembled, like the one on 755CD? I believe inside is a stadard IDE HD.
The other option is using the pcmcia slot, if you have CF adapter and a pcmcia slot on your source computer.
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Re: ThinkPad 701CS - How to get files on and off it?

#3 Post by kiki_hakone » Thu May 30, 2019 1:02 pm

IBM did indeed make different external floppies and their connectors. ThinkWiki has you covered: http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Floppy_Connector

The way I see it is you should be able to open up your HDD caddy, disconnect the propietary connector adapter and voila, you have a standard 2,5 inch drive. Can't bet on it though; never even seen a 701 in person.

You can get PCMCIA -> SD/CF adapters online. They should work just fine. Matter of fact, I think these days it's better to swallow up the lack of hard drive noises and get a IDE -> CD adapter. This makes it way easier to get files in and out of your ThinkPad.
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Re: ThinkPad 701CS - How to get files on and off it?

#4 Post by WarMachine » Wed Jul 03, 2019 8:13 am

Bondi wrote:
Tue May 28, 2019 2:21 am
Maybe the caddy of the HDD can be disassembled, like the one on 755CD? I believe inside is a stadard IDE HD.
The other option is using the pcmcia slot, if you have CF adapter and a pcmcia slot on your source computer.
Hello,

It's possible to put the disk in another machine. The disk is in the caddy you can see on this drawing (piece 5) :

http://ps-2.kev009.com/eprmhtml/epr2a/pic/d3kb6a4x.gif

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Re: ThinkPad 701CS - How to get files on and off it?

#5 Post by Bondi » Wed Jul 03, 2019 8:37 am

Okay, but did you try to take the caddy apart? Inside should be a standard 2.5 IDE HDD. I haven't done this with 701c caddy, but it's definatelty worth trying if no other options are left.
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Re: ThinkPad 701CS - How to get files on and off it?

#6 Post by theterminator93 » Wed Jul 03, 2019 9:00 am

The caddy does come apart. I disassembled it to take a disk image of the factory install before I started meddling with it. I also did a benchmark... viewtopic.php?t=117306

If you have one of the external floppy disk drives and the proper cable you can use floppy disk drives. AFAIK you need the port replicator to get a parallel port.
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