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Dead/Blank HDD on a 760XD. Alternatives?

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Dead/Blank HDD on a 760XD. Alternatives?

#1 Post by Titannel » Sun Apr 26, 2020 11:28 am

Just picked up a Thinkpad 760XD on eBay a few days ago. While it does power on, after POST it gives me the error of "Non-System Disk or Disk Error" which I'm guessing means the hard drive is either dead or empty. I have a spare one coming in the mail soon, but in the meantime I was looking to see if there was something else I could do. I looked at the drive in the Ultrabay, looks to be a 2.1GB drive. Is there a way to connect something like a CF card to the computer to act as a hard drive? Is there a way to open the HDD and put something else in it, because an IDE to CF converter won't fit in the connector on the Ultrabay.

I can't attempt to install a new OS right now because this unit lacks a CD Drive, which is kind of annoying. Wouldn't mind buying a spare one, because I can't tell what to buy from the eBay listings...

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Re: Dead/Blank HDD on a 760XD. Alternatives?

#2 Post by BillMorrow » Sun Apr 26, 2020 3:48 pm

hello and welcome to the forum..
your simple qurstion requires a long answer.. several answers..
first, i'm guessing you want to open the HDD caddy to swap out the HDD therein..
doable but a little tricky so as to not damage the caddy.. going from memory, first remove the 2 screws on either side of the connector.. then you'll need to unlatch the left and right sides of the black plastic caddy and once done the top should hinge up from the connector end..
then you'll see the HDD and the IDE connector.. you should be able to find adapters so you can connect that drive to a USB on another computer.. to then see whats ON the drive, or if it even still works..
i just opened a drawer to see what i have in ide HDD's and out came two thinkpads i have not seen in years.. a T60 and a 240..!
and about a half dozen IDE drives..
one way to put an OS on a drive without a CD drive is to load the OS load files on the HDD then execute the load procedure.. i've done that with 701's many years ago..

i think either 2.1gig or 6 gig are the max size drives but i'm not at all sure at this time..
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Re: Dead/Blank HDD on a 760XD. Alternatives?

#3 Post by Titannel » Sun Apr 26, 2020 4:11 pm

I appreciate the reply.

Is there a way to bypass using the HDD or the enclosure at all? I'm hoping a spare I have on the way will work but in case it doesn't, is there a way to just, uh, not use the drive at all and go with something else, like a CF card? or am I going to have to use even the enclosure?

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Re: Dead/Blank HDD on a 760XD. Alternatives?

#4 Post by axur-delmeria » Mon Apr 27, 2020 4:02 am

Titannel wrote:
Sun Apr 26, 2020 4:11 pm
I appreciate the reply.

Is there a way to bypass using the HDD or the enclosure at all? I'm hoping a spare I have on the way will work but in case it doesn't, is there a way to just, uh, not use the drive at all and go with something else, like a CF card? or am I going to have to use even the enclosure?
The enclosure is required because it's the physical adapter from the 760's proprietary connector to standard IDE. To use a CF card, you need an IDE to CF adapter, then use it in conjunction with the enclosure.

Also, the 760XD doesn't boot from the CD drive. You need a floppy disk drive to boot.
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Re: Dead/Blank HDD on a 760XD. Alternatives?

#5 Post by Bondi » Fri May 01, 2020 5:22 am

Titannel wrote:
Sun Apr 26, 2020 4:11 pm
I appreciate the reply.

Is there a way to bypass using the HDD or the enclosure at all? I'm hoping a spare I have on the way will work but in case it doesn't, is there a way to just, uh, not use the drive at all and go with something else, like a CF card? or am I going to have to use even the enclosure?
I thiknk all 760 series can still boot from PCMCIA drive. You can check if this option is present in BIOS. I think 760LD boots fine.
But the problem is that you may need to try different versions of fdisk.exe or similar utilities to create a partition on a CF card that will actually work.
I ended up using the utulity that comes with PCMCIA drivers for TP TP 310E/ED. But it works in conjunction with other drivers, i.e. not as a stansalone utility.
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Re: Dead/Blank HDD on a 760XD. Alternatives?

#6 Post by cadillacmike68 » Mon Jul 06, 2020 10:49 pm

axur-delmeria wrote:
Mon Apr 27, 2020 4:02 am
Titannel wrote:
Sun Apr 26, 2020 4:11 pm
I appreciate the reply.

Is there a way to bypass using the HDD or the enclosure at all? I'm hoping a spare I have on the way will work but in case it doesn't, is there a way to just, uh, not use the drive at all and go with something else, like a CF card? or am I going to have to use even the enclosure?
The enclosure is required because it's the physical adapter from the 760's proprietary connector to standard IDE. To use a CF card, you need an IDE to CF adapter, then use it in conjunction with the enclosure.

Also, the 760XD doesn't boot from the CD drive. You need a floppy disk drive to boot.


I don't think Any 760 series can boot from the CD.
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Re: Dead/Blank HDD on a 760XD. Alternatives?

#7 Post by axur-delmeria » Tue Jul 07, 2020 12:27 am

cadillacmike68 wrote:
Mon Jul 06, 2020 10:49 pm
I don't think Any 760 series can boot from the CD.
Since the 760XD is the pinnacle of the 760 series (does the 765 count?), it applies to the earlier models as well. :D
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Re: Dead/Blank HDD on a 760XD. Alternatives?

#8 Post by cadillacmike68 » Tue Jul 07, 2020 12:39 am

I'm not sure about the 765 or 770. I haven't seen one of those in about 20 years.

I just got a 600X. I'll look at that one's BIOS. It's from around the same time frame.
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760LD FUBARd
T21 2647 T22 2647 4@ 900MHz, 1@ 1GHz SXGA+; T23 2647 2@ 1.13GHz, 1@ 1.2GHz SXGA+
T30 2366-88U 2GHz; 2366-83U 1.8G; 5@ 2366-LU0/66U; 2367-KU6 FUBARd
T41 T42 T43
T61 8897 2.4GHz SXGA+; 8898 2.4Ghz; 6463 2@ WSXGA+; 7658 2.5GHz; T61p; 6 more T61s
T500 2
T530 W530

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