600E with 600X fan doesn't work properly

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600E with 600X fan doesn't work properly

#1 Post by MADMIKE » Tue Jan 31, 2006 9:07 am

Hi guys,
I've just put in a 600x fan instead of my old 600e fan to bring a little bit more cooling power into my TP.
The fan works but the big problem is:
1. It makes scraching noises when the fan runs at low rpm's not in high rpm's. What is that about??? Is it broken?? Can I fix it??
2. The fan runs at high rpms for one second and then in low rpms for 7 seconds. Thats anoying, why can't it run with stable rpm's it needs to cool?

I've read that the 600e fan provides enought cooling power to substain a certain temperature so should i put my old fan back in an return the 600x fan??? The problem is the old fan has a scraching noise too, but way less than this [censored] 600x fan.
I'm pretty sure that the old fan didn't accelerate rpms and the decelerate them all the time.

I just want to make my TP quiet

Please help me, has somebody got tips for me???

My System:
TP 600E
PIII 500MHz
40GB
DVD 6x
544MB RAM
WIN XP PRO

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#2 Post by MADMIKE » Thu Feb 02, 2006 1:38 am

Does nobody know what's going on here?
OK, but can you tell me if the 600x fan in your 600e does that??

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#3 Post by DNA_DAN » Thu Feb 02, 2006 12:04 pm

You can try putting some lubricant on the fan's bearing. Use very little of it though because you don't want to get it all over the components.

Other than that, if the scraping sound is regularly consistent, if may be rubbing on something inside the case. Did you install it properly? I don't know what the clearance for the fan is like when putting a 600X fan in a 600E case.

I personally have a PIII running at 600mhz with 100 FSB and all the stock memory (PC66) and I use the complete stock cooling setup in the 600E. I haven't had any issues yet, but then again I don't leave the laptio on for more that 2 hours at a time. I do notice a bit more heat while on battery power, but others have not noticed this while moving to a PIII. Seems to be the same or cooler on AC power compared to the stock PII. I don't know why the differences between power sources. Perhaps there is a voltage issue here.

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#4 Post by ChrisL » Thu Feb 02, 2006 9:31 pm

My opinion is not to mess around with the 600 series heatsinks for better cooling. Here is what I have done:

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I am also installing a fan that will not only cool the huge copper heatsink but will also blow directly on the CPU core to lower the temp.

My tests have showed that without heatsink grease on my setup and a FSB of 108 and my MMC-2 750 running at 810Mhz the temp would not go above 62* while at full load. Big difference considering the same setup on my 600E fan/heatsink would let it go up to 98* C and shutoff!

The 600E heatsink is fine for a PII but with a PIII it just doesn't cut it above 750Mhz.
IBM 600E
810Mhz (mmc2 750)
576MB RAM
Windows XP Pro

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#5 Post by MADMIKE » Mon Feb 06, 2006 4:49 am

Wow, that looks good. Can you cool your 810MHz CPU just with this Copper - Heatsink? Or do you need a modified fan to cool it?
I would be very interessted in a passiv - cooling solution. Can you post a construktion manual if you have made it yourself or a link where I can get it, please.
Would be really great to have a TP without making a noise.

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#6 Post by ChrisL » Mon Feb 06, 2006 12:48 pm

Right now I'm using the fan that came with my evo 610c heatsink and it is running at 5v all the time which is killing my battery and louder than what I'm used to. Although the setup is still less noisy than some of the recent HPs dells and compaqs I am going to use the origanal 600E fan unit to cool the copper heatsink.

I have a feeling that this will give both better cooling and less noise because of the original integral with ACPI and power managment. The problem with the 600E and 600X heatsinks is the heatpipe because it is just to small.

If you are planning to do this modification the best evo heatsink to use is the evo 600c unit. I don't think I will have time to write a full tutuorial and I really don't think that one is needed, the installation is very straight forward.

Since things are stable now my plan is to get a 850 Mhz CPU and overclock to a stable 1.003 Ghz @ 118 FSB and just enjoy it and watch it beat the pants off more modern computers. I would also like to get the AGP 600E issue sorted out and find the facts now that I have a windows 98 system restor disk.
IBM 600E
810Mhz (mmc2 750)
576MB RAM
Windows XP Pro

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#7 Post by MADMIKE » Tue Feb 07, 2006 4:19 am

Sounds great.
But just one more question.
How will you integrate the 600e fan in your setup now? You don't need to keep the cooling pad for the CPU, because you've got the heatsink now and you won't need the airtube to get the hot air out of the TP because the cooler of the evo 610c is there. Will you cut the fan out and use it to blow air throught the copper - cooler out or how do you want to do that.

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#8 Post by serverbook » Fri Feb 17, 2006 4:13 am

whatever you blokes try' NEVER FIT A TP 600E FAN TO A TP600X motherboard or you'll crush electro device near the middle support hole locator(fortunately i realised when the short made the laptop not boot ,but i didn't attempt to screw the thing in place otherwise yeouch"
the tp 600e cooler with arctic silver is ok up to 700 mghz /60mins +
high stress 98% cpu load burn in tests(ready for everything now).
the same cooler @800 mghz only went for 15minutes.
tried copper spacers but the 2 screws on the mmc cpu does not uniformly promote proper clamping loads,that beaut heasink mod above looks the ticket. :wink:

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