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Have a 26459zu 600x, 650 mhz. 12 gig hd (windows 2000 pro)Purchased a new travelstar 60 gig HD and a data transfer device (link below).
http://www.cmsproducts.com/products/dat ... utions.htm
Successfully cloned the C drive onto the new hard drive but it won't boot up when swapped. Tech folks noticed some files didn't migrate on 2nd try and we fixed but still wouldn't boot up (I get ram total and IBM on screen ad then it goes blank and nothing functions). On last call they felt that "older" laptop probably has a gig limit for hard drive. I can't make up a bootbale disk as I have no A drive (although it shows on explore) nor a CD writer (got DVD). I have no OS or system restore disks or I just would have went that route. If I, at least, had windows 2000 disks I would just go that route and transfer files from old hard drive after the fact. Any suggestions appreciated.

Since it appears that you do not have a floppy drive, my experience may not be useful to you at the moment. People here seem to be partial to using Acronis to perform cloning but as I'm one of the exceptions, I can't say how that program operates. But since you asked for suggestions, here goes:

What has been working for me is using Norton Ghost to clone my original drive onto a destination drive loaded into the Ultrabay using a second HDD adapter. I also boot Ghost from a floppy to insure that after the cloning operation is complete, I can shutdown the system before there is any chance of re-booting. I do it this way because Windows XP does not like to see two bootable drives in the system at the same time. I do not know if Win2K also shares this same "feature" but your description of non-booting is one of the things I've seen mentioned when cloning goes awry. Using a DOS version of Ghost means that you don't have any issues with the files that Windows has open (since it's not running). To me this means one less thing that can interfere with the copy.

I have cloned onto a new 60GB drive so I don't think the advice you were given is correct. If I'm not mistaken, some people on the forum are using 80GB drives. Unless for some reason you have a REALLY old version of BIOS, but I'm not aware of any firmware/hardware drive size limitation in the 600X. Mostly you are limited to whatever the operating system you are using supports.

I also purchased a CMS backup solution a couple of months ago. It connects via a PCMCIA card since I wanted something faster than USB 1.1. I have not yet had a chance to use it with my 600X but I believe it also comes with the same software that you used (Bounceback). My understanding is that you copy your original files to the external drive using the Windows-based program, swap drives and re-boot. If I get an opportunity to open it up and give it a whirl, I'll post back in this thread.

Download and install this.

Put the original HD back in the machine, BOOT and then connect the new HD via your USB enclosure.

Run Acronis and it will see both HDs. Select the drive you want to clone and then select which HD you want to clone to.

Go have a beer and relax, it will be done before you know it.

Regards,

James

Thx, wish I had read your this sooner, I was fishing around and came across a trial version of Acronis Migrate Easy--seems to be working but really sloooow. Hope it's similar to true image.Thx for the suggestion

flybuddy wrote:Thx, wish I had read your this sooner, I was fishing around and came across a trial version of Acronis Migrate Easy--seems to be working but really sloooow. Hope it's similar to true image.Thx for the suggestion

Do you have a USB2.0 PC card?

USB1.1 will work, but it's going to be painfully slow.

Regards,

James

Painfully slow is an understatement (1.1 usb)--started around 8 pm--nearly two hours later it's only 26% complete. I've got a good feeling about this though, think it's gonna work.

flybuddy wrote:Painfully slow is an understatement (1.1 usb)--started around 8 pm--nearly two hours later it's only 26% complete. I've got a good feeling about this though, think it's gonna work.

Well, if it will make you feel any better, I had to clone a full 7K60 to a 7K100 this morning and it took a whole 35 minutes!

James

JHEM wrote:

flybuddy wrote:Painfully slow is an understatement (1.1 usb)--started around 8 pm--nearly two hours later it's only 26% complete. I've got a good feeling about this though, think it's gonna work.

Well, if it will make you feel any better, I had to clone a full 7K60 to a 7K100 this morning and it took a whole 35 minutes!

OK, James....that was just plain mean!!!

tfflivemb2 wrote:OK, James....that was just plain mean!!!

The devil made me do it!

James

It worked!! Thanks! I think the CMS software issue was that it tries it run through windows and IBM won't let you have two bootable hard drives. It's like a whole new machine with the new HD. Boots up 3 times faster and just quicker overall. Now I get to open the back again and add a 2nd 256 stick.

flybuddy wrote:It worked!! Thanks! I think the CMS software issue was that it tries it run through windows and IBM won't let you have two bootable hard drives. It's like a whole new machine with the new HD. Boots up 3 times faster and just quicker overall. Now I get to open the back again and add a 2nd 256 stick.

Glad it worked for you. I've come to rely on Acronis for cloning rather than any other software, it just works.

Put that additional 256MB in the machine and it will be a screamer!

Regards,

James