600X Administrative Password

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600X Administrative Password

#1 Post by cure » Sat Dec 23, 2006 4:29 am

I am taking delivery of a cheap 600X for which the boot password is known, but the adminstrative password is not. What problems and work arounds for them will this present?

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#2 Post by rkawakami » Sat Dec 23, 2006 4:48 am

If you are referring to the BIOS (supervisor) password, then discussion of any techniques to bypass or defeat that system is not allowed in the forums. If you are referring to the Administrator password in Windows, then I believe that there are some tools (programs) that you can download.

If you don't have the Admin password for the system but can log in as a "regular" user, then depending upon the OS and the way it's been setup, you may not be able to perform some system-wide functions (such as installing new programs).
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#3 Post by cure » Sat Dec 23, 2006 4:29 pm

Ok, looking over the correspondence, it is a supervisor password.

If its removal is a taboo subject, what limitations does it place on the system beside not being able to change the boot password that I have been provided?
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#4 Post by rkawakami » Sat Dec 23, 2006 4:57 pm

If you have a BIOS (supervisor) password enabled on your system that you do not know, then it prevents any changes to the BIOS settings. This will mean that when your CMOS backup battery goes dead (or is removed), the system will not allow you to reset the time unless you know the password AND it will also prevent you from booting. Assuming that if the supervisor password was enabled the normal way, it also means that the same password is placed on the hard disk drive. If you remove the disk drive and attempt to install it in another system, it will not be accessable unless you know the password.

When you say you have a "boot" password, are you saying that the laptop shows you a lock icon right after you power it on? If so, then that's what normally is called a "power-on" password. For more details about this, download the Hardware Maintenance Manual and read the section on passwords:

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#5 Post by cure » Sat Dec 23, 2006 5:58 pm

I don't have the unit yet, but by 'boot password' power on password is meant.
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#6 Post by pianowizard » Sat Dec 23, 2006 6:01 pm

Sounds like the laptop was stolen.
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#7 Post by cure » Sat Dec 23, 2006 6:26 pm

pianowizard wrote:Sounds like the laptop was stolen.
Well, I have no especially good reason to think so.

Based upon how it has been described to me and based upon looking over the password info in the manual, it has a power-on password (POP) that has been provided to me and that password must be the same actual password as the hard disk password (HDP). But it is probably too much to hope for that the same actual password was used for the supervisor password (PAP). Actually, the manual seems to give conflicting information on this point.

Not having the supervisor password is supposed to lock me out of the password, start up (order?), network, and initialise/asset id icons in bios. It looks like I can nonetheless remove but not replace the existing power-on password, but that will leave simply invite a request for the hard drive password, and will make the system less secure. So there is no point in doing that.
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