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OK, I see. If you want to copy over all the stuff from the old drive onto the new one --plus partition the new one--that looks like a good solution.

As for mounting the drive, I'm pretty sure I remember that it goes in "upside down," compared to what I was accustomed to with a desktop computer. I couldn't get mine to work with the bracket until (somehow) I tried it with the drive upside down and it worked. ... I don't know if this is the issue you are facing???

Yeah, that's what I found is really the only way you can mount it...the best what I can figure out...looking at the bracket etc...you know it's the 'ol "square-hole-in-around-peg" senario....seems to be only one way it fits.

leoblob wrote:OK, I see. If you want to copy over all the stuff from the old drive onto the new one --plus partition the new one--that looks like a good solution.

As for mounting the drive, I'm pretty sure I remember that it goes in "upside down," compared to what I was accustomed to with a desktop computer. I couldn't get mine to work with the bracket until (somehow) I tried it with the drive upside down and it worked. ... I don't know if this is the issue you are facing???

Well, I've tried everyting now to get this 20 gig h/d to boot from this machine
and no luck. I don't kno why Kahlon is selling this drive for this 365XD.
Is there some kind of magic that I don't know of. I have a support request into them. BTW, the EZ Gig II is a sweet kit.

Tried everything? Like what?

The drive won't boot from the store. You have to install an OS, and your machine won't boot a CD and you said your floppy drive doesn't work. To me that makes it pretty hard to install your OS.

What have you done?

Ok, I made a mirror of the old drive using EZ Gig II. I know the drive works and is accessible through the EZ's PCMCIA interface and Win98 recognizes it as an extra drive.
EZ Gig configured a 2 gig bootable partion on the drive.
Then I installed the new drive in the laptop. Booted up and it just hangs at the BIOS memory check screen. I can feel the drive just'a humming....vibrations.

whizkid wrote:Tried everything? Like what?

The drive won't boot from the store. You have to install an OS, and your machine won't boot a CD and you said your floppy drive doesn't work. To me that makes it pretty hard to install your OS.

What have you done?

I'm no expert on EZ Gig II, but it sounds like there's no OS on the new drive to boot up with. Making a partition bootable only sets the bootable flag. You still have to install an OS on it.

As I said the whole old drive is mirrored to the new one including the OS.

whizkid wrote:I'm no expert on EZ Gig II, but it sounds like there's no OS on the new drive to boot up with. Making a partition bootable only sets the bootable flag. You still have to install an OS on it.

Hmm. Then it could be that the drive geometry is different enough to cause it not to boot. With many ThinkPads, especially older ones, for a partition to boot it has to be made on a drive while it's in the machine, not attached to the machine.

I'm not sure just how you'd do that with no floppy drive or bootable CD drive.

I want to be sure I'm understanding this... are you able to boot from the floppy drive at all (... wait, I think you don't have one?)? Are you able to boot from the old hard drive?

I'm able to boot from the old drive NP. Once I put the new drive in it won't boot from the floppy or the new drive

leoblob wrote:I want to be sure I'm understanding this... are you able to boot from the floppy drive at all (... wait, I think you don't have one?)? Are you able to boot from the old hard drive?

I have read on this board that disk cloning software doesn't always produce a bootable disk (even when cloning a bootable disk). I don't know why this is. You could try a program like Acronis True Image. I've had perfect results with this, cloning bootable hard drives, but I think some people have had the same problem with this, too.

I don't know what's wrong in your situation, but if it were me, I'd try the following... I'd FDISK and FORMAT the new hard drive from a WIN98SE boot floppy. Then use EZ Gig. If that doesn't work, I'd probably copy all my data files from the old drive onto a ZIP disk, CF card, floppies, whatever. Then I'd reinstall the operating system and programs. It's a pain, but that way, you know everything is working properly.

And if you can't boot a floppy, then check your boot device order in EZSetup.

Leoblob,
Problem is again, the (external) floppy won't work with the new drive installed. I've tried everything. What I find hard to fathom is that the BIOS seems to recognize the drive visa vi the BIOS interface on check. However, on boot up it's a no go.

The other thing I'm having issues with is win98 recognizing slot 2 on PCMCIA
device....boy I'm ready to pack this thing in....

I'm just about out of ideas...

Try re-flashing the BIOS...

Try installing your new hard drive as a non-boot drive into a desktop unit (via a cheap converter kit), and see if the desktop computer can read access and read what's on the new drive.

If neither of these helps figure it out, then I'd consider giving up on the unit. I like my 365X, but if it were me, I'd probably give up at this point. (I wonder if there's a hardware problem somewhere...??)