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Smallest Thinkpad

Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 11:43 am
by kingman99
Hi

I thought l posted this yesterday but l can't seem to find the thread.

What is the smallest Thinkpad that l can use for e-mailing and surfing with a battery that is good for 1 1/2 hrs.

Thanks

Alan

Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 11:54 am
by pianowizard
For "smallest", it's the 240/240X. For "lightest", it's the X60s with Ultralight screen.

Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 12:01 pm
by gator
For the cheapest it'd be a 600E/X with a new battery (provided you won't be surfing all day watching streaming flash videos).

Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 12:37 pm
by pianowizard
The 240, 240X, X40 and X60s are much much smaller and lighter than the 600E/X though.

Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 1:14 pm
by Wingnut
pianowizard wrote:The 240, 240X, X40 and X60s are much much smaller and lighter than the 600E/X though.
True, but surfing with a 10" screen is not fun if you have to scroll sideways al the time.

Best bang for the buck is the 600 series IMO

Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 1:25 pm
by pianowizard
Wingnut wrote:True, but surfing with a 10" screen is not fun if you have to scroll sideways al the time.

Best bang for the buck is the 600 series IMO
I agree but the OP was asking about size, but price. And the X4* and X6* have the same resolution as the 600 series, so the scrolling situation isn't any better or worse.

The best would be the 240Z with 10.4" 1024x768 screen. Same resolution as the X4*, X6* and 600 series, but the same size as the 240/240X. Unfortunately, the 240Z is very rare.

Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 2:32 pm
by beeblebrox
pianowizard wrote:For "smallest", it's the 240/240X. For "lightest", it's the X60s with Ultralight screen.
Nope,
the smallest were the 235 and 535. They had a 9.4" SVGA screen, but were sold only in Japan, as usual. The PC110 was even smaller, but more a UMPC design.

The 240 was larger than the 235, but thinner.

I had the 240x for a while, but that thing was useless. The X20 was almost the same size and weight but had a larger screen and much longer battery time.

I think the X200 would be the smallest modern Thinkpad (11"), we'll see in a couple of weeks.

Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 2:47 pm
by pianowizard
beeblebrox wrote:the smallest were the 235 and 535.
I thought the 220 was even smaller.

Of course I was aware of these tiny Thinkpads. But like you said, they were specially made for the Japanese and they are almost impossible to find in the States, which is where the OP is located. For internationally available Thinkpads, the 240 series is the smallest.
beeblebrox wrote:I had the 240x for a while, but that thing was useless. The X20 was almost the same size and weight but had a larger screen and much longer battery time.
IMO, the X20 is much bigger than the 240/240X, as you can see in this photo (left to right: X40, X20, 240):

http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa13 ... s/flat.jpg

And the 600 series is even bigger than the X20.

Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 6:39 pm
by phool@round
.... and emailing and surfing are the other two requirements......lol.

Painowizard, did you see an S30 was just offered on Fleabay...... with two batteries, also a Transnote just sold for $175......

I would agree the 240/X is the one for light duty 2 1/2 hour on battery work. The X2X series would also suffice and are readily available. This is getting to be a theme for me today.....what's floating in the air?

I don't know if "the most diminutive" was the actual aim of the poster..... but then I didn't ask the question. I think they are aiming for something with a current OS that can do light duty since I wouldn't want to be stuck with DOS, 3.1 or W98 on the net......

Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 7:01 pm
by gator
phool@round, am not able to see that S30 in completed listings, can you PM me a link? (you know, just to drool :lol:)

I have been thinking about a transnote for a while, but what stops me from getting it is the display and the max. memory it can take - which takes me to the question:

how many of us would like to see something like the transnote again?

(sorryf\ for thread hijack, I couldnt resist it)

Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 7:21 pm
by pianowizard
phool@round wrote:Painowizard, did you see an S30 was just offered on Fleabay
Thanks for the tip but I looked for it and couldn't find it! Would you mind PM'ing the URL to me?

Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 8:25 pm
by phool@round
gator and pianowizard, I've searched for over an hour and can't find it. I held it in my completed watches for at least two weeks after it ended. It must have completed after the 1st or right after Xmas. It was offered by a pawn shop and I can't remember the username. Oh well, it went for over $275 with many bids. Didn't miss much, the photos where lousy......lol. I would have thought everyone saw that baby....... should have said something sooner.......

I shouldn't have said "just" because to me one month is "just". I went through 5900 "IBM Thinkpad" completed listings from the 12/26 and didn't see it...... "S30" is worthless but that's how I found it in the first place. It may have been in the description but not in the title and seems that advanced search -> completed items won't search descriptions, just titles... increadible.

Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 8:40 pm
by pianowizard
phool@round wrote:it went for over $275 with many bids.
Actually, it's good that I missed that auction. Otherwise, I would have won it and regretted it because I would have hated its XGA screen. But because it's such a rare Thinkpad, I would have forced myself to keep it. It would just collect dust.

Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 8:50 pm
by phool@round
Same, I let it go when it went into the insane-o-sphere. If I remember right it was missing the pcmcia door, that would have driven me nuts looking for that part......

Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2008 8:11 am
by paul*robertson
beeblebrox wrote:
pianowizard wrote: I had the 240x for a while, but that thing was useless. The X20 was almost the same size and weight but had a larger screen and much longer battery time.

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I'm thinking about getting a 240. Basically i want a small laptop that i can store MP3 on permanently connected to an amplifier. Would the 240 be any good. I've seen one for sale without a hard drive, is it easy to get hold of one 80GB. Or is it too old and slow, i'm assuming they have an audio output.

thanks
Paul.

Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2008 8:45 am
by pianowizard
paul*robertson wrote:I'm thinking about getting a 240.
The 240 has either the 300MHz, 366MHz or 400MHz Celeron processor. For playing MP3, any of them should be fine, but I still recommend trying to get the fastest of these because the computer is more responsive in general. Max out the RAM to 320MB and it will run Windows XP pretty well, and Windows 2000 even better. The biggest hard drive I've installed in a 240 is 40GB, but 80GB should work as well. Make sure you get a non-SATA drive.

Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2008 8:49 am
by paul*robertson
Thanks. How much do they go for in good condition.

Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2008 9:01 am
by pianowizard
paul*robertson wrote:How much do they go for in good condition.
I am not familar with the prices in the UK. Look up completed listings on eBay.

In the States, a nice 240 can be had for under $100US.

Re:Smallest Thinkpad

Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 9:31 am
by linuxcomputers
The 570e without the base!!! While I was at college I rarely took the base. I.bought this laptop because without the base I think it is the simply both the smallest and the lightest. Being as you rarely use the floppy and the CD/DVD, if you are wirelessly connected. I hope the fashion is going towards thin client technology were you synchronise and clear your data partition to you home server every night. If you're server is connected you could you could even create a wlan and throw your ultrabase away