Thinkpad 600 need assistance

Older ThinkPads.. from the 600, the 7xx, the iSeries, 300, 500, the Transnote and, of course, the 701
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#31 Post by gator » Sat Mar 15, 2008 2:17 pm

petek1st wrote:It is a toshiba MK2018GAS Rated at DC+5v 0.7A
OK, first of all, I checked that old toshiba drive and it is a MK2023GAS 5V/0.7A (not 1.1A/5V as I wrote before, sorry). This drive will not work with 600X/T23 for reasons I fail to fathom. I also checked the current/voltage ratings of the drives I have in the 600X/T23 now, and they both are (fairly recent) fujitsu drives with a 5V/0.6A rating.

Earlier, I popped in that toshiba drive again in the 600X and the bios "saw" it. I had booted from a linux live CD, I could not access the drive from it. I know that this a working drive since I can use it in an USB enclosure with my T60. I presumed that it was an issue with current rating since I got the fujitsu drifes working.

Now, I googled your part number and mine and they have almost similar specs. I also looked up the power specs of older 12.5mm/9.5mm hard drives and they are almost around the range we have, some are even higher.

So now, a new bunch of questions for you:

1. Were both the hard drives you tried made by toshiba? In either case, what are the ratings on them?

2. Since BIOS sees the drive(s), I am wondering if this is an issue with the MBR. What is the previous history of the HDDs? Did they have a linux installation by any chance?
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#32 Post by petek1st » Sun Mar 16, 2008 12:09 pm

I am unsure of there history. All know was they where clean when I got them.

Yes both toshiba.

I have had an thought about the mbr but unsure as to what to do.
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#33 Post by SMA » Sun Mar 16, 2008 1:42 pm

Have you tried fdisk /mbr

It has helped others

http://forum.thinkpads.com/viewtopic.php?t=58095

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#34 Post by gator » Sun Mar 16, 2008 2:10 pm

There are two sureshot tools to fix the master boot record - fixboot and fixmbr. I have had very little success with fdisk/mbr, but one of the above two have worked for me EVERY single time.

You download an (7 MB) iso of the Windows Recovery Console (provided by microsoft) and try these tools. Here is some info on the windows recovery console and details on the fixboot and fixmbr commands:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/314058

Here is a link to download:
http://www.thecomputerparamedic.com/files/rc.iso

If you decide to use it, please post update here.
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#35 Post by petek1st » Mon Mar 17, 2008 7:32 am

When I use the map option it shows a floppy which isn't installed and the cd as devices but no harddisk?
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#36 Post by gator » Mon Mar 17, 2008 10:20 am

petek1st wrote:When I use the map option it shows a floppy which isn't installed and the cd as devices but no harddisk?
That is surprising. Can you post the entire output of the map command?
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#37 Post by petek1st » Mon Mar 17, 2008 11:49 am

C:\>map

A: \device\Floppy0
D: \device\CdRom0

Thats all I get.
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#38 Post by tfflivemb2 » Mon Mar 17, 2008 12:19 pm

joester wrote:
vanaya wrote: XP will give you an error if you have less than (I think) 128mb. Just a thought.
I believe that is correct. Mine has 192MB RAM, and I had no troubles whatsoever installing XP.

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Actually, I just recently installed XP Pro onto an old PC with a PII 400MHz and 64mb ram...no problems at all. And now that I am thinking, I have also installed it in the past, on a PII 266 64mb ram model 600 Thinkpad.

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#39 Post by petek1st » Wed Mar 19, 2008 12:55 pm

I have down loaded a copy of the ultimate boot disk.

I have run a program called Ranish Partition manager created a partition but when I got to format and activate it it comes up with an error saying 'Boot sector doesn't have valid information'.

Any ideas?
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#40 Post by whizkid » Wed Mar 19, 2008 4:31 pm

First, erase all partitions. Then, Ranish can write a standard IPL in the boot sector/MBR. Do that. Turn off the machine and try Ranish again to create and format a partition.
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#41 Post by petek1st » Fri Mar 21, 2008 1:50 pm

Wheyhey....... :D :D :D :D

Guys thanks for all your help.

I'm not sure what worked but I'm sending this thread off my dear little 600 that nearly drove me to drink (more).

Just on another note where would be the best place to get one of the little red caps for my mouse thingy?

Thanks again

Pete
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#42 Post by gator » Fri Mar 21, 2008 3:13 pm

petek1st wrote:Just on another note where would be the best place to get one of the little red caps for my mouse thingy?
Great to hear that you got your system working! Have a beer ... :beer:

You can look at ebay for trackpoint caps, though they are a ittle bit expensive in my opinon. Or you can ask around in the forum marketplace ...
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#43 Post by petek1st » Sat Mar 22, 2008 9:05 am

Spoke to soon. Very unstable kept shutting down!!!
I think I'm going to have to do something very strange for my and thats dip in my pocket for a brand spanking new hdd.
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#44 Post by petek1st » Fri Apr 11, 2008 10:19 am

Back again.

All's well with my new found best friend except the pointer keeps going a bit mental and the power supply is quite tempremental.

I'm thinking a new keyboard is required.

Does anybody have any ideas of the best place to get one?
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#45 Post by gator » Fri Apr 11, 2008 11:14 am

You can post a 'Want-to-buy' in the forum marketplace. Ebay is a good place to look too:
Ebay item #320237487170
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#46 Post by u.mac » Thu Apr 17, 2008 7:26 am

For hdds there are some firmware-updates at IBM/Lenovo... click
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