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Edge e530c Ram upgrade
Posted: Mon Sep 14, 2020 9:26 am
by qrafzv0
Hey,
I recently bought a new 4GB memory card. I wanted to add it to the current one to have 8GB.
Each of them works separately, but when I try using both the laptop won't boot.
This is the new stick:
And this is the original stick that came with the laptop (took it from google but it's the same model exactly):
Any ideas?
Thank you!
Re: Edge e530c Ram upgrade
Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2020 6:49 am
by Screamer
Does it POST, at the very least? Or does it not power-up? More details would be appreciated.
Did you try cleaning the RAM modules' contacts with an eraser?
Re: Edge e530c Ram upgrade
Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2020 5:56 am
by qrafzv0
Screamer wrote: ↑Wed Sep 16, 2020 6:49 am
Does it POST, at the very least? Or does it not power-up? More details would be appreciated.
Did you try cleaning the RAM modules' contacts with an eraser?
Hey, thanks!
It seems it's up for one sec but doesn't continue booting. The power light shows it's on. I figured the blue one is 1333Mhz. I guess the problem is the new one is 1600Mhz, although I read this just means the system will use both as a 1333Mhz. Regardless, I updated my BIOS but that didn't really help. After updating and cleaning the contacts, I tried using both and it didn't work. Then I tried just the new one and it didn't work and only after few tries I succeeded booting with the old one.
Re: Edge e530c Ram upgrade
Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2020 6:03 am
by Screamer
qrafzv0 wrote: ↑Sat Sep 19, 2020 5:56 am
I figured the blue one is 1333Mhz.
The Ramaxel module has a PC3-12800S marking, right? That's DDR3-1600, not DDR3-1333.
qrafzv0 wrote: ↑Sat Sep 19, 2020 5:56 am
Then I tried just the new one and it didn't work and only after few tries I succeeded booting with the old one.
Something is off with your new RAM module, have you tried any spare DDR3 modules to boot with the old Ramaxel module?
Re: Edge e530c Ram upgrade
Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2020 6:37 am
by qrafzv0
Screamer wrote: ↑Sat Sep 19, 2020 6:03 am
The Ramaxel module has a PC3-12800S marking, right? That's DDR3-1600, not DDR3-1333.
This is the output I got on RAM when checking Hardware:
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Total Width: 64 bits
Data Width: 64 bits
Size: 4096 MB
Form Factor: SODIMM
Bank Locator: BANK 2
Type: DDR3
Type Detail: Synchronous
Speed: 1333 MT/s
Configured Memory Speed: 1333 MT/s
Screamer wrote: ↑Sat Sep 19, 2020 6:03 am
Something is off with your new RAM module, have you tried any spare DDR3 modules to boot with the old Ramaxel module?
Don't have any.
The strange thing is the new one workerd alone the first time I tried it, and then when I placed only the old one it worked on the first try. After updating the BIOS took some tries to boot even with the old one.
Maybe I need to clean the slots? Or is it really the frequency?
Re: Edge e530c Ram upgrade
Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2020 7:19 am
by Screamer
I suspect that you have a dual-core Sandy Bridge processor installed in your E530c, which does not support the DDR3-1600 speed offered by the Ramaxel module. That may explain the underclocked RAM.
Doubt it, although I believe that it has something to do with Rowhammer. The BIOS changelog of your E530 states that it has been updated to 'enhance' security by apparently adding in work-arounds to protect the RAM from Rowhammer attacks.
Re: Edge e530c Ram upgrade
Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2020 9:12 am
by qrafzv0
Thanks again for the help.
Here is the CPU and BIOS info:
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Version: Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-2348M CPU @ 2.30GHz
Voltage: 1.0 V
External Clock: 100 MHz
Max Speed: 2300 MHz
Current Speed: 2300 MHz
Status: Populated, Enabled
Core Count: 2
Core Enabled: 2
Thread Count: 4
Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-2348M CPU @ 2.30GHz, 1354 MHz
Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-2348M CPU @ 2.30GHz, 1100 MHz
Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-2348M CPU @ 2.30GHz, 1666 MHz
Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-2348M CPU @ 2.30GHz, 1206 MHz
BIOS Information
Vendor: LENOVO
Version: H0ET98WW (2.58 )
Release Date: 08/18/2016
Runtime Size: 128 kB
ROM Size: 4096 kB
Characteristics:
PCI is supported
PNP is supported
BIOS is upgradeable
BIOS shadowing is allowed
Boot from CD is supported
Selectable boot is supported
EDD is supported
3.5"/720 kB floppy services are supported (int 13h)
Print screen service is supported (int 5h)
8042 keyboard services are supported (int 9h)
Serial services are supported (int 14h)
Printer services are supported (int 17h)
CGA/mono video services are supported (int 10h)
ACPI is supported
USB legacy is supported
BIOS boot specification is supported
Targeted content distribution is supported
UEFI is supported
BIOS Revision: 2.58
Firmware Revision: 2.58
I'm using Linux Kubuntu if that matters.
Re: Edge e530c Ram upgrade
Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2020 11:44 am
by Screamer
Just as I had thought, your E530c does have a processor that does not support DDR3-1600 speeds.
You could try cleaning the RAM slots as a last resort, but I am convinced that it has something to do with your new RAM module. The Rowhammer work-arounds that were added to the BIOS may have only worsened the issue regarding your new RAM module. In any case, I would advise buying another RAM module that isn't from a sketchy brand.
Re: Edge e530c Ram upgrade
Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2020 11:52 am
by qrafzv0
Bummer...
So do you suggest buying a 1333Mhz or 1600Mhz? What would work the best with the Ramaxel module?
And do you know where can I find one?
Thanks so much for all the help!
Re: Edge e530c Ram upgrade
Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2020 1:01 pm
by Screamer
DDR3-1600, that is if you are planning to upgrade the processor in the future. If you are not planning any sort of upgrades, stick with DDR3-1333.
Any RAM module with identical specifications will work best with the Ramaxel module, such as this
Hynix DDR3-1600 module.
If you are feeling a little adventurous, you could try a
DDR3L-1600 module or a
DDR3-1333 module.