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X1 Carbon M2 SSD problem help!

#1 Post by Thinkpadx1carbon1 » Sat Feb 02, 2019 4:56 am

Hey do you guys know if this M2 ssd on aliexpress is supposed to work on my Thinkpad X1 Carbon. I bought and I cant get the laptop or my USB to M2 to regonize it.

The ssd fits perfectly in the m2 slot on the laptop and it is the right size 2280.

Reeinno Mace-2000 SSD M.2 NVMe PCIe 240GB 2280 HD 1.8GB/s 3D NAND Flash super speed solid-state Hard Drive for Desktop Laptop

https://s.click.aliexpress.com/e/cVWbSBUU

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Re: X1 Carbon M2 SSD problem help!

#2 Post by RealBlackStuff » Sat Feb 02, 2019 8:00 am

By now there are 6 Generations of X1 Carbon, which Gen do you have?
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Re: X1 Carbon M2 SSD problem help!

#3 Post by Thinkpadx1carbon1 » Sat Feb 02, 2019 8:02 am

How can I know my generation?
My model has Intel i5-4300U processor.

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Re: X1 Carbon M2 SSD problem help!

#4 Post by RealBlackStuff » Sat Feb 02, 2019 9:42 am

That's a machine known as X1C2 (X1 Carbon Gen 2) with the strange "lit function bar".
The model SSD seems OK, but if it doesn't work, it's probably defective.
I don't have any machine with such a drive, so can't help you here.
Someone else?

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Re: X1 Carbon M2 SSD problem help!

#5 Post by w0qj » Thu Feb 07, 2019 11:14 pm

There are six (6) generations of X1 Carbon on the market right now, and the next generation (7th gen) available around summer 2019.

0. Noted your machine is X1C2 (2nd gen Carbon) with the Touch Bar where the function keys are supposed to be.
Also noted that you've bought a NVMe 2280-sized PCIe SSD.

1. Unfortunately NVMe 2280-sized PCIe SSD can only work on X1C4 (4th gen Carbon) and onwards.

Specifically, for X1C3 (3rd gen Carbon), NVMe PCIe SSD would not work (as these require ACHI or SATA3 2280-sized PCIe SSD).

Unfortunately your X1C2 (2nd gen Carbon) [and also X1C1 for that matter] are proprietary SSD that are different from any of above SSD's,
or at least that's what I gathered from elsewhere on this Forum.

2. Therefore our short answer is that "No", your bought NVMe 2280-sized PCIe SSD *CANNOT* work on your X1C2 (2nd gen Carbon).

In fact, I don't know of a workaround to enable X1C2 to use another SSD ==> Anyone else would like to venture to answer this?
eg: X1 Carbon Gen-1 UNICORN found: a real 20+6-Pin-to-mSATA adapter
http://forum.thinkpads.com/viewtopic.php?f=62&t=120849
http://forum.thinkpads.com/viewtopic.php?f=62&t=128030
<BUT above is for the X1 Carbon Gen 1: Can this same method work for X1C2 (2nd gen Carbon?)>

[Edit: Change in *RED*, many thanks to RBS!]
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Re: X1 Carbon M2 SSD problem help!

#6 Post by RealBlackStuff » Fri Feb 08, 2019 7:09 am

w0qj wrote:
Thu Feb 07, 2019 11:14 pm
Unfortunately your X1C2 (2nd gen Carbon) [and also X1C1 for that matter] are proprietary SSD that are different from any of above SSD's,
or at least that's what I gathered from elsewhere on this Forum.

2. Therefore our short answer is that "No", your bought NVMe 2280-sized PCIe SSD can only work on your X1C2 (2nd gen Carbon).
(I colored that red word)
Are you sure about that only, or should that be NOT

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Re: X1 Carbon M2 SSD problem help!

#7 Post by w0qj » Fri Feb 08, 2019 9:54 am

Oops, thank you for spotting a very bad mistake!

Amendment in RED as above!
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Re: X1 Carbon M2 SSD problem help!

#8 Post by w0qj » Tue Feb 19, 2019 7:22 am

Update: So the X1C1 (X1 Carbon 1st Generation) apparently cannot fit a "2280" PCIe sized SSD apparently.
http://forum.thinkpads.com/viewtopic.ph ... 7f#p830205

So what exactly is the proprietary SSD on the X1C2 ?
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Re: X1 Carbon M2 SSD problem help!

#9 Post by RealBlackStuff » Tue Feb 19, 2019 8:19 am

X1C2 needs an M.2 SSD with "B & M key", common enough.
The X1C2 frubom lists 9 options. Since then many more must have appeared on the market.
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