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Re: Classic theme on Windows 8

#241 Post by windows.nt.win32 » Sun Sep 27, 2015 1:05 pm

Powerplayer wrote:Classicshell functionality inside that explorer would be nice since classicshell is opensource the only problem with classicshell would be that it has to stop being a browser helper object and become the main explorer then taskbar and all the other stuff shell32.dll need to be put to replace the metroish crap we are stuck with today to complete things maybe we need a non-metroish logonui meaning no dwm . Classic is good idea for gaming rigs .
But getting functional taskbar and startmenu would be first on the list the rest can be added later. But who will make this? make a kickstarter?
I've wanted to do a full LogonUI.exe replacement for a while now. I think it'd be cool to create a version that would allow the user to chose and customize the interface they want, similar to Linux Mint or whatever. For example, the user would have the ability to have LogonUI.exe load an XP-style interface, a vista/7 style interface, a Mac OS X interface, or whatever they chose or create (I personally love the classic login interface from Windows 2000/XP/Server 2003, so that's probably what I would go with). And regardless of the interface the user chooses, it would not change the way it handles login credentials. All this would be a lot of work, but it's definitely possible. And with Windows 8/10 being the way they are with DWM, I think that now is as good a time as any for this to happen.

Unfortunately for modifying shell32.dll, it appears that Windows now requires the file to have a Microsoft digital signature in order for it to load. So if you make any sort of modifications to it, you will get a BSOD on boot.

Edit: You can however modify shell32.dll.mui without any problems.

I'm not sure how well a KickStarter would work for this, as I don't know how many people would actually be willing to do all this. I'd be willing if/when I get to learning some computer programing, but that would more than likely be a ways off.

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Re: Classic theme on Windows 8

#242 Post by Powerplayer » Mon Sep 28, 2015 4:10 pm

windows.nt.win32 wrote:
Powerplayer wrote:Classicshell functionality inside that explorer would be nice since classicshell is opensource the only problem with classicshell would be that it has to stop being a browser helper object and become the main explorer then taskbar and all the other stuff shell32.dll need to be put to replace the metroish crap we are stuck with today to complete things maybe we need a non-metroish logonui meaning no dwm . Classic is good idea for gaming rigs .
But getting functional taskbar and startmenu would be first on the list the rest can be added later. But who will make this? make a kickstarter?
I've wanted to do a full LogonUI.exe replacement for a while now. I think it'd be cool to create a version that would allow the user to chose and customize the interface they want, similar to Linux Mint or whatever. For example, the user would have the ability to have LogonUI.exe load an XP-style interface, a vista/7 style interface, a Mac OS X interface, or whatever they chose or create (I personally love the classic login interface from Windows 2000/XP/Server 2003, so that's probably what I would go with). And regardless of the interface the user chooses, it would not change the way it handles login credentials. All this would be a lot of work, but it's definitely possible. And with Windows 8/10 being the way they are with DWM, I think that now is as good a time as any for this to happen.

Unfortunately for modifying shell32.dll, it appears that Windows now requires the file to have a Microsoft digital signature in order for it to load. So if you make any sort of modifications to it, you will get a BSOD on boot.

Edit: You can however modify shell32.dll.mui without any problems.

I'm not sure how well a KickStarter would work for this, as I don't know how many people would actually be willing to do all this. I'd be willing if/when I get to learning some computer programing, but that would more than likely be a ways off.
are there any mui mods that you know of that can fix the taskbar or close the sihost.exe without that annoying message? stuff from explorer.exe.mui in windows 8 added to the 10 version make the taskbar fully functional when disabling sihost.exe but the error message is still there when closing the sihost.exe process which is a spyware process for the windows 10 fake startmenu
Edit remove the error message reference in explorer.exe.mui and windows automatically logs off.

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Re: Classic theme on Windows 8

#243 Post by windows.nt.win32 » Mon Sep 28, 2015 4:21 pm

Powerplayer wrote:are there any mui mods that you know of that can fix the taskbar or close the sihost.exe without that annoying message? stuff from explorer.exe.mui in windows 8 added to the 10 version make the taskbar fully functional when disabling sihost.exe but the error message is still there when closing the sihost.exe process which is a spyware process for the windows 10 fake startmenu
Edit remove the error message reference in explorer.exe.mui and windows automatically logs off.
Well that's a shame. Hopefully we can find a way to disable that. What specifically did you take from explorer.exe.mui from Windows 8 to fix the taskbar?

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Re: Classic theme on Windows 8

#244 Post by Powerplayer » Mon Sep 28, 2015 5:16 pm

windows.nt.win32 wrote:
Powerplayer wrote:are there any mui mods that you know of that can fix the taskbar or close the sihost.exe without that annoying message? stuff from explorer.exe.mui in windows 8 added to the 10 version make the taskbar fully functional when disabling sihost.exe but the error message is still there when closing the sihost.exe process which is a spyware process for the windows 10 fake startmenu
Edit remove the error message reference in explorer.exe.mui and windows automatically logs off.
Well that's a shame. Hopefully we can find a way to disable that. What specifically did you take from explorer.exe.mui from Windows 8 to fix the taskbar?
I added stuff that were missing in the string section of windows 10 using the win8 mui file as reference i was editing them side by side , the sihost.exe is the bad guy here probably added by indian low-wage devs since ms spend more money on getting an ugly shot picture of light in windows logon pri file then set the gui straight I also carefully removed references to cortana however in classic mode the whole thing was missing so we need to find what dialogs and strings of classic mode were removed to cripple the taskbar .
I also believe that the way to turn it off is buried in the windows registry.
The bsod you get when editing explorer.exe might also be related to registry keys that must be cleaned up which are probably locked down and you need RegOwnershipEx from winaero to delete them a good way is to make some windows to go drives and work on that like i've been doing.
sihost.exe contains alot of dialogs taken from mui files the classic taskbar will not work partly because the dreaded sihost is there fused into the UI to load that fake indian startmenu that Nadella forced on us.
partly because the dialogs there are missing from other UI files .
With the right editing using reshacker and regownership that can easily jump to keys and takeover locked ms keys that we later delete i believe it would not be entirely impossible to bring the taskbar back.

Another way would be to try find exactly what file is corrupting the taskbar by copy paste load files into win8.1 and run classictheme then make the nessesary fixes to have the os running smoothly

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Re: Classic theme on Windows 8

#245 Post by Powerplayer » Mon Sep 28, 2015 5:21 pm

Speaking of regedit there is also an edit i use for making the desktop normal on windows 10 without struggling 20 minutes with clicks and settings to configure plus it removes the folders from This PC shows file extension and superhidden files adds take ownership no IE popup message asking you to run downloaded files and opens new folder in new window
(needed for guys who reinstall often)
Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\Advanced]
"AlwaysShowMenus"=dword:00000001

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\Advanced]
"AlwaysShowMenus"=-

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\Explorer]
"AlwaysShowClassicMenu"=-

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\Explorer]
"AlwaysShowClassicMenu"=-


[-HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\*\shell\runas]

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\*\shell\runas]
@="Take Ownership"
"HasLUAShield"=""
"NoWorkingDirectory"=""

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\*\shell\runas\command]
@="cmd.exe /c takeown /f \"%1\" /a && icacls \"%1\" /grant administrators:F /c /l"
"IsolatedCommand"="cmd.exe /c takeown /f \"%1\" /a && icacls \"%1\" /grant administrators:F /c /l"

[-HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Directory\shell\runas]

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Directory\shell\runas]
@="Take Ownership"
"HasLUAShield"=""
"NoWorkingDirectory"=""

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Directory\shell\runas\command]
@="cmd.exe /c takeown /f \"%1\" /a /r /d y && icacls \"%1\" /grant administrators:F /t /c /l /q"
"IsolatedCommand"="cmd.exe /c takeown /f \"%1\" /a /r /d y && icacls \"%1\" /grant administrators:F /t /c /l /q"

[-HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\dllfile\shell\runas]

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\dllfile\shell\runas]
@="Take Ownership"
"HasLUAShield"=""
"NoWorkingDirectory"=""

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\dllfile\shell\runas\command]
@="cmd.exe /c takeown /f \"%1\" /a && icacls \"%1\" /grant administrators:F /c /l"
"IsolatedCommand"="cmd.exe /c takeown /f \"%1\" /a && icacls \"%1\" /grant administrators:F /c /l"

[-HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Drive\shell\runas]

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Drive\shell\runas]
@="Take Ownership"
"HasLUAShield"=""
"NoWorkingDirectory"=""

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Drive\shell\runas\command]
@="cmd.exe /c takeown /f \"%1\" /a /r /d y && icacls \"%1\" /grant administrators:F /t /c /l /q"
"IsolatedCommand"="cmd.exe /c takeown /f \"%1\" /a /r /d y && icacls \"%1\" /grant administrators:F /t /c /l /q"


[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\HideDesktopIcons\NewStartPanel]
"{20D04FE0-3AEA-1069-A2D8-08002B30309D}"=dword:00000000

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\HideDesktopIcons\ClassicStartMenu]
"{20D04FE0-3AEA-1069-A2D8-08002B30309D}"=dword:00000000

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\HideDesktopIcons\NewStartPanel]
"{F02C1A0D-BE21-4350-88B0-7367FC96EF3C}"=dword:00000000

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\HideDesktopIcons\ClassicStartMenu]
"{F02C1A0D-BE21-4350-88B0-7367FC96EF3C}"=dword:00000000

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\HideDesktopIcons\NewStartPanel]
"{59031a47-3f72-44a7-89c5-5595fe6b30ee}"=dword:00000000

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\HideDesktopIcons\ClassicStartMenu]
"{59031a47-3f72-44a7-89c5-5595fe6b30ee}"=dword:00000000

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\HideDesktopIcons\NewStartPanel]
"{5399E694-6CE5-4D6C-8FCE-1D8870FDCBA0}"=dword:00000000

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\HideDesktopIcons\ClassicStartMenu]
"{5399E694-6CE5-4D6C-8FCE-1D8870FDCBA0}"=dword:00000000


[HKEY_CURRENT_USERSoftwareMicrosoftInternet ExplorerDownload]

"CheckExeSignatures"="no"

"RunInvalidSignatures"=dword:00000001

[HKEY_CURRENT_USERSoftwareMicrosoftWindowsCurrentVersionPoliciesAttachments]

"SaveZoneInformation"=dword:00000001


[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\Personalization]
"NoLockScreen"=dword:00000001


[-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\MyComputer\NameSpace\{088e3905-0323-4b02-9826-5d99428e115f}]
[-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\MyComputer\NameSpace\{1CF1260C-4DD0-4ebb-811F-33C572699FDE}]
[-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\MyComputer\NameSpace\{24ad3ad4-a569-4530-98e1-ab02f9417aa8}]
[-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\MyComputer\NameSpace\{374DE290-123F-4565-9164-39C4925E467B}]
[-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\MyComputer\NameSpace\{3ADD1653-EB32-4cb0-BBD7-DFA0ABB5ACCA}]
[-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\MyComputer\NameSpace\{3dfdf296-dbec-4fb4-81d1-6a3438bcf4de}]
[-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\MyComputer\NameSpace\{A0953C92-50DC-43bf-BE83-3742FED03C9C}]
[-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\MyComputer\NameSpace\{A8CDFF1C-4878-43be-B5FD-F8091C1C60D0}]
[-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\MyComputer\NameSpace\{B4BFCC3A-DB2C-424C-B029-7FE99A87C641}]
[-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\MyComputer\NameSpace\{d3162b92-9365-467a-956b-92703aca08af}]
[-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\MyComputer\NameSpace\{f86fa3ab-70d2-4fc7-9c99-fcbf05467f3a}]

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\Advanced]
"Start_SearchFiles"=dword:00000002
"ServerAdminUI"=dword:00000000
"Hidden"=dword:00000001
"ShowCompColor"=dword:00000001
"HideFileExt"=dword:00000000
"DontPrettyPath"=dword:00000000
"ShowInfoTip"=dword:00000000
"HideIcons"=dword:00000000
"MapNetDrvBtn"=dword:00000000
"WebView"=dword:00000000
"Filter"=dword:00000000
"ShowSuperHidden"=dword:00000001
"SeparateProcess"=dword:00000000
"AutoCheckSelect"=dword:00000000
"IconsOnly"=dword:00000000
"ShowTypeOverlay"=dword:00000000
"ShowStatusBar"=dword:00000000
"ListviewAlphaSelect"=dword:00000000
"ListviewShadow"=dword:00000001
"TaskbarAnimations"=dword:00000000
"StoreAppsOnTaskbar"=dword:00000001
"EnableStartMenu"=dword:00000001
"StartMenuInit"=dword:0000000b
"ReindexedProfile"=dword:00000001
"AlwaysShowMenus"=dword:00000001
"TaskbarSizeMove"=dword:00000000
"DisablePreviewDesktop"=dword:00000001
"TaskbarSmallIcons"=dword:00000001
"TaskbarGlomLevel"=dword:00000000
"ShowTaskViewButton"=dword:00000000
"DisablePreviewWindow"=dword:00000001

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Internet Settings\Zones\3]
@=""
"1806"=dword:00000000

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\Modules\GlobalSettings\Sizer]
"PageSpaceControlSizer"=hex:c8,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,d7,03,00,00


[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer]
"EnableAutoTray"=hex(b):00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\Explorer]
"DisableNotificationCenter"=dword:00000001

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\AutoplayHandlers]
"DisableAutoplay"=dword:00000001

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\CabinetState]
"Settings"=hex:0c,00,02,00,2a,01,00,00,60,00,00,00
"FullPath"=dword:00000000

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\AutoplayHandlers]
"DisableAutoplay"=dword:00000001



[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Applications\photoviewer.dll]

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Applications\photoviewer.dll\shell]

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Applications\photoviewer.dll\shell\open]
"MuiVerb"="@photoviewer.dll,-3043"

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Applications\photoviewer.dll\shell\open\command]
@=hex(2):25,00,53,00,79,00,73,00,74,00,65,00,6d,00,52,00,6f,00,6f,00,74,00,25,\
00,5c,00,53,00,79,00,73,00,74,00,65,00,6d,00,33,00,32,00,5c,00,72,00,75,00,\
6e,00,64,00,6c,00,6c,00,33,00,32,00,2e,00,65,00,78,00,65,00,20,00,22,00,25,\
00,50,00,72,00,6f,00,67,00,72,00,61,00,6d,00,46,00,69,00,6c,00,65,00,73,00,\
25,00,5c,00,57,00,69,00,6e,00,64,00,6f,00,77,00,73,00,20,00,50,00,68,00,6f,\
00,74,00,6f,00,20,00,56,00,69,00,65,00,77,00,65,00,72,00,5c,00,50,00,68,00,\
6f,00,74,00,6f,00,56,00,69,00,65,00,77,00,65,00,72,00,2e,00,64,00,6c,00,6c,\
00,22,00,2c,00,20,00,49,00,6d,00,61,00,67,00,65,00,56,00,69,00,65,00,77,00,\
5f,00,46,00,75,00,6c,00,6c,00,73,00,63,00,72,00,65,00,65,00,6e,00,20,00,25,\
00,31,00,00,00

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Applications\photoviewer.dll\shell\open\DropTarget]
"Clsid"="{FFE2A43C-56B9-4bf5-9A79-CC6D4285608A}"

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Applications\photoviewer.dll\shell\print]

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Applications\photoviewer.dll\shell\print\command]
@=hex(2):25,00,53,00,79,00,73,00,74,00,65,00,6d,00,52,00,6f,00,6f,00,74,00,25,\
00,5c,00,53,00,79,00,73,00,74,00,65,00,6d,00,33,00,32,00,5c,00,72,00,75,00,\
6e,00,64,00,6c,00,6c,00,33,00,32,00,2e,00,65,00,78,00,65,00,20,00,22,00,25,\
00,50,00,72,00,6f,00,67,00,72,00,61,00,6d,00,46,00,69,00,6c,00,65,00,73,00,\
25,00,5c,00,57,00,69,00,6e,00,64,00,6f,00,77,00,73,00,20,00,50,00,68,00,6f,\
00,74,00,6f,00,20,00,56,00,69,00,65,00,77,00,65,00,72,00,5c,00,50,00,68,00,\
6f,00,74,00,6f,00,56,00,69,00,65,00,77,00,65,00,72,00,2e,00,64,00,6c,00,6c,\
00,22,00,2c,00,20,00,49,00,6d,00,61,00,67,00,65,00,56,00,69,00,65,00,77,00,\
5f,00,46,00,75,00,6c,00,6c,00,73,00,63,00,72,00,65,00,65,00,6e,00,20,00,25,\
00,31,00,00,00

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Applications\photoviewer.dll\shell\print\DropTarget]
"Clsid"="{60fd46de-f830-4894-a628-6fa81bc0190d}"

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer]
"AltTabSettings"=dword:00000001

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Control Panel\Desktop]
"LogPixels"=hex(b):60,00,00,00,00,00,00,00


[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Classes\.jpg]
@="PhotoViewer.FileAssoc.Tiff"

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Classes\.jpeg]
@="PhotoViewer.FileAssoc.Tiff"

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Classes\.gif]
@="PhotoViewer.FileAssoc.Tiff"

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Classes\.png]
@="PhotoViewer.FileAssoc.Tiff"

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Classes\.bmp]
@="PhotoViewer.FileAssoc.Tiff"

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Classes\.tiff]
@="PhotoViewer.FileAssoc.Tiff"

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Classes\.ico]
@="PhotoViewer.FileAssoc.Tiff"

And this is the windows 8.1 version
Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\Advanced]
"AlwaysShowMenus"=dword:00000001

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\Advanced]
"AlwaysShowMenus"=-

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\Explorer]
"AlwaysShowClassicMenu"=-

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\Explorer]
"AlwaysShowClassicMenu"=-


[-HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\*\shell\runas]

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\*\shell\runas]
@="Take Ownership"
"HasLUAShield"=""
"NoWorkingDirectory"=""

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\*\shell\runas\command]
@="cmd.exe /c takeown /f \"%1\" /a && icacls \"%1\" /grant administrators:F /c /l"
"IsolatedCommand"="cmd.exe /c takeown /f \"%1\" /a && icacls \"%1\" /grant administrators:F /c /l"

[-HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Directory\shell\runas]

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Directory\shell\runas]
@="Take Ownership"
"HasLUAShield"=""
"NoWorkingDirectory"=""

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Directory\shell\runas\command]
@="cmd.exe /c takeown /f \"%1\" /a /r /d y && icacls \"%1\" /grant administrators:F /t /c /l /q"
"IsolatedCommand"="cmd.exe /c takeown /f \"%1\" /a /r /d y && icacls \"%1\" /grant administrators:F /t /c /l /q"

[-HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\dllfile\shell\runas]

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\dllfile\shell\runas]
@="Take Ownership"
"HasLUAShield"=""
"NoWorkingDirectory"=""

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\dllfile\shell\runas\command]
@="cmd.exe /c takeown /f \"%1\" /a && icacls \"%1\" /grant administrators:F /c /l"
"IsolatedCommand"="cmd.exe /c takeown /f \"%1\" /a && icacls \"%1\" /grant administrators:F /c /l"

[-HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Drive\shell\runas]

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Drive\shell\runas]
@="Take Ownership"
"HasLUAShield"=""
"NoWorkingDirectory"=""

[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Drive\shell\runas\command]
@="cmd.exe /c takeown /f \"%1\" /a /r /d y && icacls \"%1\" /grant administrators:F /t /c /l /q"
"IsolatedCommand"="cmd.exe /c takeown /f \"%1\" /a /r /d y && icacls \"%1\" /grant administrators:F /t /c /l /q"


[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\HideDesktopIcons\NewStartPanel]
"{20D04FE0-3AEA-1069-A2D8-08002B30309D}"=dword:00000000

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\HideDesktopIcons\ClassicStartMenu]
"{20D04FE0-3AEA-1069-A2D8-08002B30309D}"=dword:00000000

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\HideDesktopIcons\NewStartPanel]
"{F02C1A0D-BE21-4350-88B0-7367FC96EF3C}"=dword:00000000

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\HideDesktopIcons\ClassicStartMenu]
"{F02C1A0D-BE21-4350-88B0-7367FC96EF3C}"=dword:00000000

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\HideDesktopIcons\NewStartPanel]
"{59031a47-3f72-44a7-89c5-5595fe6b30ee}"=dword:00000000

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\HideDesktopIcons\ClassicStartMenu]
"{59031a47-3f72-44a7-89c5-5595fe6b30ee}"=dword:00000000

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\HideDesktopIcons\NewStartPanel]
"{5399E694-6CE5-4D6C-8FCE-1D8870FDCBA0}"=dword:00000000

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\HideDesktopIcons\ClassicStartMenu]
"{5399E694-6CE5-4D6C-8FCE-1D8870FDCBA0}"=dword:00000000


[HKEY_CURRENT_USERSoftwareMicrosoftInternet ExplorerDownload]

"CheckExeSignatures"="no"

"RunInvalidSignatures"=dword:00000001

[HKEY_CURRENT_USERSoftwareMicrosoftWindowsCurrentVersionPoliciesAttachments]

"SaveZoneInformation"=dword:00000001


[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\Personalization]
"NoLockScreen"=dword:00000001

[-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\MyComputer\NameSpace\{1CF1260C-4DD0-4ebb-811F-33C572699FDE}]
[-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\MyComputer\NameSpace\{374DE290-123F-4565-9164-39C4925E467B}]
[-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\MyComputer\NameSpace\{3ADD1653-EB32-4cb0-BBD7-DFA0ABB5ACCA}]
[-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\MyComputer\NameSpace\{A0953C92-50DC-43bf-BE83-3742FED03C9C}]
[-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\MyComputer\NameSpace\{A8CDFF1C-4878-43be-B5FD-F8091C1C60D0}]
[-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\MyComputer\NameSpace\{B4BFCC3A-DB2C-424C-B029-7FE99A87C641}]


[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\Advanced]
"Start_SearchFiles"=dword:00000002
"ServerAdminUI"=dword:00000000
"Hidden"=dword:00000001
"ShowCompColor"=dword:00000001
"HideFileExt"=dword:00000000
"DontPrettyPath"=dword:00000000
"ShowInfoTip"=dword:00000000
"HideIcons"=dword:00000000
"MapNetDrvBtn"=dword:00000000
"WebView"=dword:00000000
"Filter"=dword:00000000
"ShowSuperHidden"=dword:00000001
"SeparateProcess"=dword:00000000
"AutoCheckSelect"=dword:00000000
"IconsOnly"=dword:00000000
"ShowTypeOverlay"=dword:00000000
"ShowStatusBar"=dword:00000000
"ListviewAlphaSelect"=dword:00000000
"ListviewShadow"=dword:00000001
"TaskbarAnimations"=dword:00000000
"StoreAppsOnTaskbar"=dword:00000001
"EnableStartMenu"=dword:00000001
"StartMenuInit"=dword:0000000b
"ReindexedProfile"=dword:00000001
"AlwaysShowMenus"=dword:00000001
"TaskbarSizeMove"=dword:00000000
"DisablePreviewDesktop"=dword:00000001
"TaskbarSmallIcons"=dword:00000001
"TaskbarGlomLevel"=dword:00000000
"ShowTaskViewButton"=dword:00000000
"DisablePreviewWindow"=dword:00000001


[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Internet Settings\Zones\3]
@=""
"1806"=dword:00000000

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\Modules\GlobalSettings\Sizer]
"PageSpaceControlSizer"=hex:c8,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00,d7,03,00,00


[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer]
"EnableAutoTray"=hex(b):00,00,00,00,00,00,00,00

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\Explorer]
"DisableNotificationCenter"=dword:00000001

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\AutoplayHandlers]
"DisableAutoplay"=dword:00000001

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\Personalization]
"NoLockScreen"=dword:00000001
"PersonalColors_Accent"="#808080"
"PersonalColors_Background"="#000000"

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\CabinetState]
"Settings"=hex:0c,00,02,00,2a,01,00,00,60,00,00,00
"FullPath"=dword:00000000

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\AutoplayHandlers]
"DisableAutoplay"=dword:00000001

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer]
"AltTabSettings"=dword:00000001

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\Taskband]
"FavoritesResolve"=-
"Favorites"=-
"FavoritesChanges"=-
"FavoritesVersion"=-
The only thing i could not add in these was the personalization where i only have Use drop shadows for icon labels on the desktop and having the pagefile off and untick the change action center settings stuff but still less to do when reinstall :)

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Re: Classic theme on Windows 8

#246 Post by Anixx » Thu Oct 01, 2015 1:34 am

This is a more reliable address bar remover:

Code: Select all

#NoTrayIcon
#NoEnv
Gui +LastFound
hWnd := WinExist()
SetControlDelay, -1
SetBatchLines -1

DllCall( "RegisterShellHookWindow", UInt,hWnd )
MsgNum := DllCall( "RegisterWindowMessage", Str,"SHELLHOOK" )
OnMessage( MsgNum, "ShellMessage" )
Return
 
ShellMessage(wParam,lParam) {
   If (wParam = 1 ) ;  HSHELL_WINDOWCREATED := 1
   {

WinGetClass, WinClass, ahk_id %lParam%
if (WinClass = "CabinetWClass") {

ControlGetPos, ,y1,,ha,ReBarWindow321, ahk_id %lParam%

SendMessage, 0x0082,,,ReBarWindow321, ahk_id %lParam%

Control, Hide,, WorkerW1, ahk_id %lParam%
Control, Hide,, ReBarWindow321, ahk_id %lParam%

ControlGetPos,,y2,,h1,ShellTabWindowClass1, ahk_id %lParam%
ControlMove, ShellTabWindowClass1,, y1,,y2-y1+h1, ahk_id %lParam%
ControlMove, ReBarWindow321,,,,0, ahk_id %lParam%

WinSet, Redraw,, ahk_id %lParam%

Sleep, 100

SendMessage, 0x0082,,,ReBarWindow321, ahk_id %lParam%

Control, Hide,, WorkerW1, ahk_id %lParam%
Control, Hide,, ReBarWindow321, ahk_id %lParam%

ControlGetPos,,y2,,h1,ShellTabWindowClass1, ahk_id %lParam%
ControlMove, ShellTabWindowClass1,, y1,,y2-y1+h1, ahk_id %lParam%
ControlMove, ReBarWindow321,,,,0, ahk_id %lParam%

WinSet, Redraw,, ahk_id %lParam%

Sleep, 100

SendMessage, 0x0082,,,ReBarWindow321, ahk_id %lParam%

Control, Hide,, WorkerW1, ahk_id %lParam%
Control, Hide,, ReBarWindow321, ahk_id %lParam%

ControlGetPos,,y2,,h1,ShellTabWindowClass1, ahk_id %lParam%
ControlMove, ShellTabWindowClass1,, y1,,y2-y1+h1, ahk_id %lParam%
ControlMove, ReBarWindow321,,,,0, ahk_id %lParam%

WinSet, Redraw,, ahk_id %lParam%

Sleep, 100

SendMessage, 0x0082,,,ReBarWindow321, ahk_id %lParam%

Control, Hide,, WorkerW1, ahk_id %lParam%
Control, Hide,, ReBarWindow321, ahk_id %lParam%

ControlMove, ShellTabWindowClass1,, y1,,y2-y1+h1, ahk_id %lParam%
ControlMove, ReBarWindow321,,,,0, ahk_id %lParam%

WinSet, Redraw,, ahk_id %lParam%

   }
}
}

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Re: Classic theme on Windows 8

#247 Post by Powerplayer » Thu Oct 01, 2015 8:48 pm

Anixx wrote:This is a more reliable address bar remover:
how do we add that to windows registry Anixx?

I checked this site but they did not have the .reg file http://www.windowsbbs.com/windows-7/109 ... lorer.html


Edit:

[-HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\StuckRects2]

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\Explorer]
"NoSetTaskbar"=dword:00000001
"NoTrayItemsDisplay"=dword:00000001
"HideClock"=dword:00000001
"NoToolbarsOnTaskbar"=dword:00000001
"NoTrayContextMenu"=dword:00000001
"NoSaveSettings"=dword:00000000

that regs removes taskbar could it be tweaked to enable classic taskbar?

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Re: Classic theme on Windows 8

#248 Post by Anixx » Thu Oct 01, 2015 11:54 pm

Powerplayer wrote:
I checked this site but they did not have the .reg file http://www.windowsbbs.com/windows-7/109 ... lorer.html
Although I did not try this, I believe it is impossible to remove the navigation bar via registry. Yes one can hide exactly the address field, but not the whole navbar (rebar). The only method that works is sending the message to destruct the object to the Explorer process, that is what my AHK script does.

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Re: Classic theme on Windows 8

#249 Post by Powerplayer » Sat Oct 03, 2015 9:07 am

Anixx wrote:
Powerplayer wrote:
The only method that works is sending the message to destruct the object to the Explorer process
lol navbar was easy just use reshacker

Shellstyle.dll

add following code after <style resid="FolderBandStyle">


original
<style resid="FolderBandStyle">
<Element
background="argb(0, 0, 0, 0)"
/>

replace with

<Element padding="rect(0rp,0rp,0rp,-28rp)"/>


works on all windows versions no extra software needed .

But that is navigation bar and i got it fixed need to disable explorerbar now does anyone know how to edit shellstyle to get rid of that internet explorer bar as well?

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Re: Classic theme on Windows 8

#250 Post by windows.nt.win32 » Sat Oct 03, 2015 5:50 pm

The shellstyle.dll mod will remove the command bar in Windows Explorer. However, it cannot remove the address bar because AFAIK shellstyle.dll really only controls the FolderView styling (which the command bar is technically part of) and not an entire explorer window. It should be possible to remove via registry tweaking, but for whatever reason it's not. What Anixx posted is an AutoHotKey script that will remove the address bar entirely. I'd love to use it, but only if I find an alternative, XP-style address bar to replace it with.

Also Anixx, if it's not too much to ask, would it be possible you could update the ClientEdge AHK script for opening folders in the same window? As of now, the ClientEdge style will be toggled whenever a shell event is triggered (like pasting/moving items, emptying the Recycle Bin, refreshing folders, ect.) I hope this isn't asking too much, but it is something I would like to have working a bit more reliably.

My main laptop is currently in for repair, so I'm not going to be using Windows 10 for the next week or so (until the repairs are finished).

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Re: Classic theme on Windows 8

#251 Post by Anixx » Sat Oct 03, 2015 8:00 pm

Powerplayer wrote:
lol navbar was easy just use reshacker
This removes only Command Bar, not navbar.

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Re: Classic theme on Windows 8

#252 Post by Anixx » Sat Oct 03, 2015 8:02 pm

windows.nt.win32 wrote: Also Anixx, if it's not too much to ask, would it be possible you could update the ClientEdge AHK script for opening folders in the same window? As of now, the ClientEdge style will be toggled whenever a shell event is triggered (like pasting/moving items, emptying the Recycle Bin, refreshing folders, ect.) I hope this isn't asking too much, but it is something I would like to have working a bit more reliably.
I have tried to make an universal script, but unsuccessfully so far. It works unreliably. I think IbmPad posted here modified dlls for Win7 or Win8. I would love if he shared the method.

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Re: Classic theme on Windows 8

#253 Post by Powerplayer » Sun Oct 04, 2015 11:29 pm

windows.nt.win32 wrote: I've wanted to do a full LogonUI.exe replacement for a while now. .
now that is a good idea , since its windows it could be the best logonui idea ever make us load vista interface or whatever mswindows interface ever maybe even make an all-in one UI so we can have all classic themes ever made plus the other stuff they cut out . i will be glad to be a tester for that.

edit since classicshell is nowadays open source i guess the new ui can take features from that except that the themes will not only cover the start menu but the whole ui easy editable too

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Re: Classic theme on Windows 8

#254 Post by Powerplayer » Mon Oct 12, 2015 2:59 am

Anixx wrote:
windows.nt.win32 wrote: Also Anixx, if it's not too much to ask, would it be possible you could update the ClientEdge AHK script for opening folders in the same window? As of now, the ClientEdge style will be toggled whenever a shell event is triggered (like pasting/moving items, emptying the Recycle Bin, refreshing folders, ect.) I hope this isn't asking too much, but it is something I would like to have working a bit more reliably.
I have tried to make an universal script, but unsuccessfully so far. It works unreliably. I think IbmPad posted here modified dlls for Win7 or Win8. I would love if he shared the method.
So what dll do we modify to what to make explorerbar/navbar disappear?

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Re: Classic theme on Windows 8

#255 Post by bugmn » Mon Oct 12, 2015 4:06 am

Hello all, there was a program called 'desktop architech' that seemed to change windows 7 to look more like windows 98 a little bit more. You create a theme file with it on windows 98, then load that theme file into windows 7. Ive now tried using this program on windows 10, and it doesnt seem to change much. I unchecked the font options though because I read somewhere that using this program garbles the font on windows 8 if you leave the font options on. Here's a before and after picture:
http://i60.tinypic.com/14uc947.png
The only thing that seemed to change was hovering over some file items made it blue like in win 98, and the color of some dialog boxes & desktop architect itself. I was thinking that this program might prove useful, but it doesnt seem to have the same effect that it did on windows 7.

Another thing I was thinking of is to create the windows 98 theme using a third party patcher. I thought that this might be alot easier to do than to use the hack that this thread is about. Maybe you could add a properties dialog such as http://tinyurl.com/oskll8f to change the appearance of windows on the fly, which could be used in conjunction with the third party patchers. Here's the theme patchers that I found which could be useful: 7tsp found at: http://www.xptsp.com/fixit/7tsp.php and UxTheme Multi Patcher found at:
http://www.windowsxlive.net/uxtheme-multi-patcher/ and alsoUxStyle which can be found at: http://www.howtogeek.com/168270/how-to- ... n-windows/ and http://uxstyle.com. Some notable themes created with these programs: This black and blue theme: http://oi61.tinypic.com/23hkf8w.jpg
Making windows look like ubuntu: http://i57.tinypic.com/vqiivd.jpg

Using these programs you could create a windows 98 theme.

There's also Zero Dump which was mentioned in this thread as well. ( http://www.softpedia.com/get/Programmin ... Dump.shtml ) Maybe this could be used in conjunction with an appearance properties dialog like the one in windows 98 & configured so that every window would have the classic look instead of only one.

Hopefully this helps!

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Re: Classic theme on Windows 8

#256 Post by bugmn » Tue Oct 13, 2015 10:43 pm

Update: I tried the windows classic theme enabler ibmpad made, and came across a few bugs. It doesn't change the color of the taskbar. What color it does change is only a little bit. Image here: http://i61.tinypic.com/o70ba1.png
The windows 10 start button is missing, and right clicking on the taskbar produces a blank selection. Image here: http://i61.tinypic.com/262abls.png The start button issue can bne fixed using a custom start button however. Another bug is making the taskbar bigger, right clicking on the taskbar & selecting one of the blank options crashes explorer/the taskbar, which you can't fix by restarting explorer. You get a black screen after it crashes. The only fix I've found for this is uninstalling the theme enabler and re-installing the theme.

As for desktop architect while the classic theme is installed , loading a windows 98 theme doesn't change anything except for the color of the active titlebar.

Also, kudo's on the 'configure theme' menu bringing up a windows 98-esk display properties menu to edit your theme.
If you can combine a custom theme using UxStyle ( UxTheme didn't work for me ) and the display properties theme editor to change colors and etc on the fly, that'd be great! ^_^

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Re: Classic theme on Windows 8

#257 Post by windows.nt.win32 » Thu Oct 15, 2015 2:40 pm

bugmn wrote:Update: I tried the windows classic theme enabler ibmpad made, and came across a few bugs. It doesn't change the color of the taskbar. What color it does change is only a little bit. Image here: http://i61.tinypic.com/o70ba1.png
Yeah that's a bug that we're currently trying to fix. It's pretty annoying, yes.

bugmn wrote:The windows 10 start button is missing, and right clicking on the taskbar produces a blank selection. Image here: http://i61.tinypic.com/262abls.png The start button issue can bne fixed using a custom start button however.
I think the start button is dependent on Aero, so that's why it won't work without a custom button. I normally use Classic Shell with a custom button, so to me that's not the biggest issue. I'm not sure why right-clicking on the taskbar shows up blank though. Again, it is pretty annoying.

bugmn wrote: Another bug is making the taskbar bigger, right clicking on the taskbar & selecting one of the blank options crashes explorer/the taskbar, which you can't fix by restarting explorer. You get a black screen after it crashes. The only fix I've found for this is uninstalling the theme enabler and re-installing the theme.
Interesting, I've never had this happen to me.

bugmn wrote:As for desktop architect while the classic theme is installed , loading a windows 98 theme doesn't change anything except for the color of the active titlebar.
I haven't messed around with Desktop Architect too much, but I noticed that loading schemes from it seemed to be messed up for some reason. Hopefully there's a way to fix this; it does look like a nice program.

bugmn wrote: Also, kudo's on the 'configure theme' menu bringing up a windows 98-esk display properties menu to edit your theme.
If you can combine a custom theme using UxStyle ( UxTheme didn't work for me ) and the display properties theme editor to change colors and etc on the fly, that'd be great! ^_^
When you say custom theme, do you mean visual style? If that's the case, that could bring its own set problems. Mainly, Windows visual styles basically just overlay bitmaps over the classic theme, and then DWM will create desktop composition effects such as transparency, Aero colorization, and other effects. Plus, custom visual styles are a bit more limited than they were in the days of Windows XP. So I don't think this method would work out too well.

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Re: Classic theme on Windows 8

#258 Post by crashnburn » Sat Oct 17, 2015 1:06 am

How stable/ buggy/ risky is it on Win 8.1 now? and 10?

I remember reading earlier that it needed lot manual steps and hacks. And if it crashed, you lost shell and recovery was also a lot of effort.. Any easy scripting/ automated install/ uninstall?
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Re: Classic theme on Windows 8

#259 Post by Splitwirez » Sat Oct 17, 2015 7:39 pm

I apologize for butting into this discussion so abruptly...I just wanted to share some stuff I've been hoping to contribute to this:
http://www.mediafire.com/convkey/a041/d ... ?size_id=8
Reworked the Classic (<-)(->) buttons to look more like those of Windows 9x (couldn't fit the text in, though). Also created a Start Button flag for the Classic Shell Button. Made with the actual Classic Button feature in mind. Here are the files:
Win10Classic-StartButton+NavButtons. The DLLs are only tested on Windows 10 x64, and the Flag...well, it should work anywhere .-.

First post here, really sorry if I did anything wrong D:

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Re: Classic theme on Windows 8

#260 Post by maur0 » Sun Oct 18, 2015 8:54 am

Splitwirez wrote:I apologize for butting into this discussion so abruptly...I just wanted to share some stuff I've been hoping to contribute to this:
http://www.mediafire.com/convkey/a041/d ... ?size_id=8
Reworked the Classic (<-)(->) buttons to look more like those of Windows 9x (couldn't fit the text in, though). Also created a Start Button flag for the Classic Shell Button. Made with the actual Classic Button feature in mind. Here are the files:
Win10Classic-StartButton+NavButtons. The DLLs are only tested on Windows 10 x64, and the Flag...well, it should work anywhere .-.

First post here, really sorry if I did anything wrong D:

thanks for copy this files and replace original files, copy in windows safe mode? or another metd for replace this files and windows acept

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Re: Classic theme on Windows 8

#261 Post by Splitwirez » Sun Oct 18, 2015 10:37 am

maur0 wrote:
Splitwirez wrote:Iadministratorlr e for butting into this discussion so abruptly...I just wanted to share some stuff I've been hoping to contribute to this:
http://www.mediafire.com/convkey/a041/d ... ?size_id=8
Reworked the Classic (<-)(->) buttons to look more like those of Windows 9x (couldn't fit the text in, though). Also created a Start Button flag for the Classic Shell Button. Made with the actual Classic Button feature in mind. Here are the files:
Win10Classic-StartButton+NavButtons. The DLLs are only tested on Windows 10 x64, and the Flag...well, it should work anywhere .-.

First post here, really sorry if I did anything wrong D:

thanks for copy this files and replace original files, copy in windows safe mode? or another metd for replace this files and windows acept
I just used takeown and ICACLS from administrator command prompt, then renamed the original DLLs and added the new ones in. Same steps should work for you ._.

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Re: Classic theme on Windows 8

#262 Post by Powerplayer » Sun Oct 18, 2015 8:20 pm

Splitwirez wrote:I apologize for butting into this discussion so abruptly...I just wanted to share some stuff I've been hoping to contribute to this:
http://www.mediafire.com/convkey/a041/d ... ?size_id=8
Reworked the Classic (<-)(->) buttons to look more like those of Windows 9x (couldn't fit the text in, though). Also created a Start Button flag for the Classic Shell Button. Made with the actual

First post here, really sorry if I did anything wrong D:
http://www.classicshell.net/forum/viewt ... =18&t=3442 here is mine looks more classic theme .

Spitwirez your taskbarfix is a quite a good idea why don't just give the fix to ibmpad so that he can add it to classictheme program alltogheter?

Edit : It seems like our friend spitwirez has found a solution to the taskbar problem we need an addon program that contains the taskbar from xp just take the resource , make it executable and make it start before explorer if i understand things right that would fix the taskbar problem in windows 10 heres the thread showing the classic taskbar in action http://www.classicshell.net/forum/viewt ... =13&t=5254

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Re: Classic theme on Windows 8

#263 Post by Splitwirez » Mon Oct 19, 2015 3:21 pm

Powerplayer wrote:
Splitwirez wrote:I apologize for butting into this discussion so abruptly...I just wanted to share some stuff I've been hoping to contribute to this:
http://www.mediafire.com/convkey/a041/d ... ?size_id=8
Reworked the Classic (<-)(->) buttons to look more like those of Windows 9x (couldn't fit the text in, though). Also created a Start Button flag for the Classic Shell Button. Made with the actual

First post here, really sorry if I did anything wrong D:
http://www.classicshell.net/forum/viewt ... =18&t=3442 here is mine looks more classic theme .

Spitwirez your taskbarfix is a quite a good idea why don't just give the fix to ibmpad so that he can add it to classictheme program alltogheter?

Edit : It seems like our friend spitwirez has found a solution to the taskbar problem we need an addon program that contains the taskbar from xp just take the resource , make it executable and make it start before explorer if i understand things right that would fix the taskbar problem in windows 10 heres the thread showing the classic taskbar in action http://www.classicshell.net/forum/viewt ... =13&t=5254
TBH I'd say using XP's explorer isn't really a viable solution, since it's so volatile (and #REKTs the desktop ._. )

HOWEVER, I know of an application called "W7ExForW8" which...does just that: it enables Windows 7's explorer to run on Windows 8. I've never actually used it, mind you, and IDK if it works on Windows 8.1 or 10...

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Re: Classic theme on Windows 8

#264 Post by Powerplayer » Mon Oct 19, 2015 8:27 pm

Splitwirez wrote:
HOWEVER, I know of an application called "W7ExForW8" which...does just that: it enables Windows 7's explorer to run on Windows 8. I've never actually used it, mind you, and IDK if it works on Windows 8.1 or 10...
It got cancelled works only on win8 betas now it gives us black screen the best way to be to neither take the code that enables the taskbar for reactos or snatch it from windows and start it as a part of classictheme process i hope ibmpad adds this soon.

On another note why did nobody make a switcher program for windows interfaces? i would kinda like vista interface because it has a native start menu before it got removed in windows 10.
Being able to switch between UI's would be a nice thing to have since nowadays microsoft tend to mess with our settings options

Interesting if anybody could port nt4 shell to x64 windows 10 now that would be sweet

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Re: Classic theme on Windows 8

#265 Post by Splitwirez » Tue Oct 20, 2015 5:45 am

Powerplayer wrote:
Splitwirez wrote:
HOWEVER, I know of an application called "W7ExForW8" which...does just that: it enables Windows 7's explorer to run on Windows 8. I've never actually used it, mind you, and IDK if it works on Windows 8.1 or 10...
It got cancelled works only on win8 betas now it gives us black screen the best way to be to neither take the code that enables the taskbar for reactos or snatch it from windows and start it as a part of classictheme process i hope ibmpad adds this soon.

On another note why did nobody make a switcher program for windows interfaces? i would kinda like vista interface because it has a native start menu before it got removed in windows 10.
Being able to switch between UI's would be a nice thing to have since nowadays microsoft tend to mess with our settings options

Interesting if anybody could port nt4 shell to x64 windows 10 now that would be sweet
Aw, what? W7ExForW8 got #REKT? Darn :/

Yeah...I'm still surprised that they made the abomin8tion (lol) known as Aerolite, rather than just making a visual style that looks like the classic theme ._.

Also, even if the Vista shell was available for Windows 10, they still wouldn't port the Longhorn shell ;^; (irrelevant but meh)

MOVING ON...
I suspect Windows Vista's taskbar might be more functional on Windows 10 than XP's...anyone want it? (I have a Vista install disk anyways, so I'll probably rip it regardless :Y )

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Re: Classic theme on Windows 8

#266 Post by Powerplayer » Tue Oct 20, 2015 12:38 pm

Splitwirez wrote:
MOVING ON...
I suspect Windows Vista's taskbar might be more functional on Windows 10 than XP's...anyone want it? (I have a Vista install disk anyways, so I'll probably rip it regardless :Y )

Yea i could not enable xp taskbar because it was 32 bit and because taskmanager does not work in classic mode so sure add the vista one but make sure to rip both x64 and x32 and add a bat file in order to enable it

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Re: Classic theme on Windows 8

#267 Post by Splitwirez » Tue Oct 20, 2015 2:25 pm

Powerplayer wrote:
Splitwirez wrote:
MOVING ON...
I suspect Windows Vista's taskbar might be more functional on Windows 10 than XP's...anyone want it? (I have a Vista install disk anyways, so I'll probably rip it regardless :Y )

Yea i could not enable xp taskbar because it was 32 bit and because taskmanager does not work in classic mode so sure add the vista one but make sure to rip both x64 and x32 and add a bat file in order to enable it
I used 32-bit XP Explorer on 64-bit Windows 10 - just use the command prompt to kill Windows 10's explorer xD

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Re: Classic theme on Windows 8

#268 Post by windows.nt.win32 » Tue Oct 20, 2015 9:29 pm

Splitwirez wrote: TBH I'd say using XP's explorer isn't really a viable solution, since it's so volatile (and #REKTs the desktop ._. )
I really have to agree with this. As much as I wish it was, Windows XP's explorer.exe just isn't meant to run on Windows 8/10. The only way I could get it to run at all was in compatibility mode, and even then is was quite unstable, and the desktop wouldn't even load.

Vista's explorer might work a little bit better, but again, Windows Vista's explorer was designed for just that: Windows Vista. I'd still expect it to be at least somewhat unstable. I've got a Vista Ultimate disk lying around here, so I might test that out. I may also try and get Windows 7's explorer.exe to work if I have the time.

But to be honest, I don't really see an older Windows shell working very well on Windows 8/10. Well, with the exception of maybe the Windows NT 4.0 shell simply because the source code to that is available, and it would theoretically be possible to update it to work on modern versions of Windows.

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Re: Classic theme on Windows 8

#269 Post by Powerplayer » Wed Oct 21, 2015 2:22 am

windows.nt.win32 wrote: But to be honest, I don't really see an older Windows shell working very well on Windows 8/10. Well, with the exception of maybe the Windows NT 4.0 shell simply because the source code to that is available, and it would theoretically be possible to update it to work on modern versions of Windows.
I loved the nt4 shell a full port of the UI and its login and we have a windows that consumes much less memory if not lightningfast , a full port of the nt4 UI running on 10 with control panel and everything and no dwm is interesting and good for the future cuz ms want to remove control panel too and delete more settings that we use .

Suddenly you would get the a way better looking windows 10 too mucch better then the rotten metrocrap we got served for sure.
NT4 amd we get back file associations editing yippie.

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Re: Classic theme on Windows 8

#270 Post by Splitwirez » Wed Oct 21, 2015 7:25 am

windows.nt.win32 wrote:
Splitwirez wrote: TBH I'd say using XP's explorer isn't really a viable solution, since it's so volatile (and #REKTs the desktop ._. )
I really have to agree with this. As much as I wish it was, Windows XP's explorer.exe just isn't meant to run on Windows 8/10. The only way I could get it to run at all was in compatibility mode, and even then is was quite unstable, and the desktop wouldn't even load.

Vista's explorer might work a little bit better, but again, Windows Vista's explorer was designed for just that: Windows Vista. I'd still expect it to be at least somewhat unstable. I've got a Vista Ultimate disk lying around here, so I might test that out. I may also try and get Windows 7's explorer.exe to work if I have the time.

But to be honest, I don't really see an older Windows shell working very well on Windows 8/10. Well, with the exception of maybe the Windows NT 4.0 shell simply because the source code to that is available, and it would theoretically be possible to update it to work on modern versions of Windows.
Let's atleast try Vista's explorer before falling back to NT 4, okay? ._.

(Also XP's explorer is actually very stable on Windows 8 O.o )

Also, what did you think of that 9x/modern hybrid logo I made? Good rnough to go on a WINVER and a Wallpaper? Or is it just garbage? ._.

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