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Will the Samsung 840 EVO 250GB 2.5-Inch fit in the hard drive bay of the T430 ?

Like the drive found at:
http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-250GB-2-5 ... or+laptops

Also, in the same laptop can you have a mSATA Drive, and a Samsung 840 EVO 250GB drive ?

Yes, and yes.

Brad

Great, thanks.

I think I'll put in a 250 gig mSata and then a 500 gig SSD which is where I'll save my docs to so I can use Acronis to restore the C Drive (the mSata) when needed.

To optimize the system, best to check the SATA version whether it's II or III on the SSD.
If I'm not mistaken, the eSATA is II which may impose limitations to the 250GB eSata card.
It would make sense to place the OS with SATA III capablilities.

And how does one check Windows 7 Professional 64bit to make sure it is setup for SATA 3 ?

You don't, j888www means: you place the OS on the fastest (i.e. SATA III) drive...
Although even at SATA II speed, an mSATA drive will boot in around 10 seconds, more than fast enough if you ask me.

J888www wrote:To optimize the system, best to check the SATA version whether it's II or III on the SSD.
If I'm not mistaken, the eSATA is II which may impose limitations to the 250GB eSata card.
It would make sense to place the OS with SATA III capablilities.

For most uses, it's the latency, not the throughput where SSDs shine, so whether it's SATA II or III makes little practical difference.

OK, cool. I already have it in and it's veddy much mo faster so I'm glad
I did this. I have another Lenovo laptop that's about to get the same treatment.

Someone was telling me as long as I'm doing a fresh install on the SSD them
Win 7 will automatically detect the drive as an SSD and will adust itself accordingly.

Hey, you guys are alright... I don't care what they say on those other help boards!

I know more about this stuff than the average guy walking down the street but a lot
of this stuff I need the occasional expert to ask a few questions of. Thanks!

ZaZ wrote: For most uses, it's the latency, not the throughput where SSDs shine, so whether it's SATA II or III makes little practical difference.

That and the performance under heavy concurrent workloads.

Also, if you have the cash I'd go for the 840 Pro instead of the Evo. The Pro series has *much* better longevity and tends to fail more gracefully than the Evo series.

I don't always fail, but when I do I like to "fail gracefully"

Sounds like the Pro version is the way to go.

Rockrz wrote:I don't always fail, but when I do I like to "fail gracefully"

Sounds like the Pro version is the way to go.

Well...how would I put it: in my opinion EVO is not the way to go.

840 Pro is a nice drive. Finding one for a reasonable amount of money is a whole another matter.

What size drive are you interested in, and how much are you looking to spend?

Also, unless a seller shows you how many writes have been written to an SSD, I would not buy an SSD used. It is easy to end up with a drive that has been written to many, many times. The flash cells may be worn out and the performance may be degraded.

I've already installed a 500 gig mSata drive and it was the EVO, but none to fear... I have a mechanic drive split into two drives and I have Acronis on the ready... so, at the first sign of trouble in 6 or 7 years I'll restore the system to run off of the mechanic drive and then I'll go buy the Pro version.

After I had done all this, I was doing some reading up on SSD's and had found the Pro version is better. I'm about to custom build a very powerful desktop PC for work and it's definitely going to get the Pro version.

Rockrz wrote:I've already installed a 500 gig mSata drive and it was the EVO, but none to fear... I have a mechanic drive split into two drives and I have Acronis on the ready... so, at the first sign of trouble in 6 or 7 years I'll restore the system to run off of the mechanic drive and then I'll go buy the Pro version.

Keep in mind that sometimes SSD's can fail with no warning AND in a not so graceful way...

I am going to be installing the 850 Pro 1Tb in my new Thinkpad, big bucks at around $630 currently, the step up to a 10 yr warranty is a big reason I am willing to pay the price, a few hundred bucks will seem cheap if you have an unceremonious early death of a less expensive SSD. Having said that, nothing says the Pro won't die early too, a cloud backup is my insurance policy

SHG

Well, I continually backup my data and with Acronis I can easily restore Windows after the replacement is installed.

Besides, I just got it so it ought to last 4 or 5 years at least.

But, I'm about to build an all new performance desk top and will be using the Pro version for that, but it'll only be about 500 gigs for the C Drive which is to be used for Windows only and not for any data.

What's the warranty for a 500 gig Pro version?

Rockrz wrote: What's the warranty for a 500 gig Pro version?

AFAIK, the Pro series are all 10 years for all sizes.

SHG