T420s/430s FHD/2k upgrade

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T420s/430s FHD/2k upgrade

#1 Post by tomatohat » Sun Feb 05, 2017 1:31 pm

http://forum.thinkpads.com/viewtopic.php?t=118070

A while back rmsmajestic was selling a few FHD upgrade boards for the t420/t430/t420s/t430s. JJ is still working on a revision to fix the flickering issue on the t420/t430, but there's no ETA. I've been bouncing a few emails with rmsmajestic about upgrading, but I think he's taking a small break from future orders. So I'm going to pull the trigger myself.

Right now, the FHD option by 51nb members is pretty much exclusively related to the t420s and t430s, which seems to be free from the issue. Wondering if anyone else was interested in making the upgrade. I'll be making an order for a batch pretty soon to try out the 2K and FHD on the T430s.

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#2 Post by manishanand001 » Mon Feb 06, 2017 1:51 pm

I'd be up for it. Which seller did you have in mind?

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Re: T420s/430s FHD/2k upgrade

#3 Post by CannedPeachy » Tue Feb 07, 2017 9:14 pm

I'm interested as well!

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#4 Post by tomatohat » Wed Feb 08, 2017 2:04 am

manishanand001 wrote:I'd be up for it. Which seller did you have in mind?
What do you mean? I think RMSmajestic took preorders then made one big order. Don't remember if he took payment with the preorders, but I'm thinking about doing it a different way - I'll make one big order and foot the bill, and people buy from me stateside with probably something like bitcoins or paypal.

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#5 Post by CannedPeachy » Wed Feb 08, 2017 9:08 am

tomatohat wrote:
manishanand001 wrote:I'd be up for it. Which seller did you have in mind?
What do you mean? I think RMSmajestic took preorders then made one big order. Don't remember if he took payment with the preorders, but I'm thinking about doing it a different way - I'll make one big order and foot the bill, and people buy from me stateside with probably something like bitcoins or paypal.

When do you think you will order?

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#6 Post by tomatohat » Wed Feb 08, 2017 1:03 pm

Probably within the next month or so.

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#7 Post by manishanand001 » Wed Feb 08, 2017 1:58 pm

tomatohat wrote:
manishanand001 wrote:I'd be up for it. Which seller did you have in mind?
What do you mean? I think RMSmajestic took preorders then made one big order. Don't remember if he took payment with the preorders, but I'm thinking about doing it a different way - I'll make one big order and foot the bill, and people buy from me stateside with probably something like bitcoins or paypal.
I'm not sure if this is correct but I thought RMSmajestic was selling JJ's kit which they customized personally, and that there are other sellers of the same/similar kit, and one in particular that uses the DP lane from docking port rendering a dock unusable. I remember seeing some kits on some other Chinese vendor site. Anyhow, let us know when you put an order together. Cheers!

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#8 Post by tomatohat » Wed Feb 08, 2017 2:20 pm

manishanand001 wrote:
tomatohat wrote:
What do you mean? I think RMSmajestic took preorders then made one big order. Don't remember if he took payment with the preorders, but I'm thinking about doing it a different way - I'll make one big order and foot the bill, and people buy from me stateside with probably something like bitcoins or paypal.
I'm not sure if this is correct but I thought RMSmajestic was selling JJ's kit which they customized personally, and that there are other sellers of the same/similar kit, and one in particular that uses the DP lane from docking port rendering a dock unusable. I remember seeing some kits on some other Chinese vendor site. Anyhow, let us know when you put an order together. Cheers!
I'm planning to buy FHD from JJ, just had a chat with him yesterday.

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#9 Post by manishanand001 » Wed Feb 08, 2017 2:39 pm

That sounds great! And out of curiosity, any word on the 2k kit? Did the non-s kit come up in the conversation?

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#10 Post by tomatohat » Wed Feb 08, 2017 3:21 pm

manishanand001 wrote:That sounds great! And out of curiosity, any word on the 2k kit? Did the non-s kit come up in the conversation?
I think RMSmajestic covered that already. http://forum.thinkpads.com/viewtopic.ph ... 60#p794808

Basically, non-s not likely anytime soon. And 2k there already exists a WHQD kit, but it requires some solder work. No-solder 2k kit, maybe...

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#11 Post by manishanand001 » Wed Feb 08, 2017 7:02 pm

tomatohat wrote:
manishanand001 wrote:That sounds great! And out of curiosity, any word on the 2k kit? Did the non-s kit come up in the conversation?
I think RMSmajestic covered that already. http://forum.thinkpads.com/viewtopic.ph ... 60#p794808

Basically, non-s not likely anytime soon. And 2k there already exists a WHQD kit, but it requires some solder work. No-solder 2k kit, maybe...
Yeah, I was just wondering if any one had any technical details of why it couldn't work (besides signal interference).
If it's not much of a hassle, then I can also go for the solder version of the 2k kit along with the fhd kit. Just to tinker...
Thanks!

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Re: T420s/430s FHD/2k upgrade

#12 Post by manishanand001 » Fri Feb 10, 2017 3:27 pm

So this just popped up on Reddit. Was this what you were talking about regarding the 2k kit?
https://world.taobao.com/item/437794738 ... 2.6.OVU36K

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#13 Post by klst » Wed Feb 15, 2017 4:42 am

I am also interested in a kit for my T420s :)

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Re: T420s/430s FHD/2k upgrade

#14 Post by quadbox » Thu Feb 16, 2017 7:24 pm

I'd definitely be interested in a t420s fhd kit

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#15 Post by jcitme » Thu Feb 23, 2017 4:00 pm

Yes please, I need a 2K kit for my T430s that doesn't break the dock connector.

I've seen some kits that break dock connection functionality, so I'm hoping that I can get a 1440p screen while keeping the dock.

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#16 Post by pr4x15 » Sat Mar 18, 2017 9:39 am

I'm interested in a t420s FHD kit, as well- think you're moving forward with this?

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#17 Post by llemon » Fri May 19, 2017 1:48 pm

Maybe this is a really dumb question, but would it be possible to cram a slightly larger than 14" screen into the T430 ala the 51nb x330 mod?

I'm not sure what they did to the bezel in that instance, but I would imagine a jig + a dremel and some very careful sanding could do it. I'd be mostly interested in getting a 16:10 screen rather than 16:9 though.

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Re: T420s/430s FHD/2k upgrade

#18 Post by Thinkpad4by3 » Mon May 22, 2017 11:23 am

The problem is that the x2** series has a resonabpe bezel and small screens have little bezel. On the bigger t series, as the screens get larger so do the bezels. My t42 screen has atleast 3/4" total but my x series has less than 1/4".
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#19 Post by llemon » Wed May 24, 2017 6:05 pm

Looking at datasheets for various panels and comparing them to the T430s factory panels, along with comparing what was done to the X220/30, it looks like a larger screen swap should be doable. It may require a bit of elbow grease and running some wire differently.

The problem is the only panels I can find that could fit are in the 14.5-15" class. A size that has been neglected by panel makers for years and consequently they are pretty low resolution. It wouldn't be any kind of upgrade in resolution unfortunately. But hey, maybe someone will come out with a 14.5 wqhd panel before the non-s converter boards are done :lol:

It'd also be nice to find the datasheet for the oled used in the Yoga X1. From what I can find its apparently edp, and it should fit. However the only way to bu a panel that I can find is through IBM at an insane price.

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#20 Post by markjitsu » Thu Sep 28, 2017 1:55 pm

Following the rules and doing research, can I breath some life back into this post for a second?

Just inherited a T430s i5 that I'm getting a new i7 mobo for. I'd like to buy the FHD mod.

Does anyone have anyone I can PM or email about this?

Can anyone inform me with the best possible display to get for this mod? Luckily, from what I see the s doesn't have the flickering issue.

Woo! Horray for this forum. I'm from Reddit normally but I tend to lurk here.

Thanks all!

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Re: T420s/430s FHD/2k upgrade

#21 Post by Dro » Tue Oct 03, 2017 5:29 am

markjitsu wrote:
Thu Sep 28, 2017 1:55 pm
Following the rules and doing research, can I breath some life back into this post for a second?

Just inherited a T430s i5 that I'm getting a new i7 mobo for. I'd like to buy the FHD mod.

Does anyone have anyone I can PM or email about this?

Can anyone inform me with the best possible display to get for this mod? Luckily, from what I see the s doesn't have the flickering issue.

Woo! Horray for this forum. I'm from Reddit normally but I tend to lurk here.

Thanks all!
The FHD mod seems to be in short supply, you can try to pm rmsmajestic but it's my understanding that most if not all of the FHD boards are sold, there was a poll about the WQHD but I guess it didn't attract enough interest so no one knows if they will materialize, that said, you can find both on taobao but prices seems to be a bit high, I ended up buying another t430s just to get my hands on the FHD and the B140HAN01.2 screen which to answer your other question it's what you should be looking for if you want a matte screen, your best bet it's ebay just keep in mind that a lot of the listings are clickbait they are for compatible screens and not the B140HAN01.2 even if it's mentioned in the title.

Hope it helps

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Re: T420s/430s FHD/2k upgrade

#22 Post by markjitsu » Tue Oct 03, 2017 9:21 am

https://www.laptopscreen.com/English/mo ... M14X%20R2/

ID: 110004

This is the screen I ended up getting. Is this better or worse than the T430s display I have. A bit worried I got clickbaited.

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Re: T420s/430s FHD/2k upgrade

#23 Post by Dro » Tue Oct 03, 2017 10:23 am

markjitsu wrote:
Tue Oct 03, 2017 9:21 am
https://www.laptopscreen.com/English/mo ... M14X%20R2/

ID: 110004

This is the screen I ended up getting. Is this better or worse than the T430s display I have. A bit worried I got clickbaited.
Actually you were promised a screen which is matte and 1600x900, so if that's what you received I don't see how you were tricked, that said if it's really the same model they are using in the alienware it's shouldn't be bad at all! Getting a higher resolution screen requires the FHD or WQHD mod, the original screen on the t430s is so horrible that I had to set it aside till I get a new screen, so unless you got really unlucky anything is bound to be an improvement over the screen it came with.

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