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T440p ERROR 2101: Detection error on ssd1 (M.2)

#1 Post by kaddafi88 » Sun Oct 21, 2018 12:07 pm

Hello everyone!
I installed 240gb in my t440p ssd in slot m.2. I put Windows 10, everything works fine, but when you turn on the laptop, every time a message appears in the BIOS "2101: Detection error on ssd1 (M.2)".
This is a big problem, I can not use the sleep mode (the laptop just hangs on this error).
I tried different versions of the BIOS, the results did not work.
Please tell me what else you can try?
Thinkpad x230 (IPS, RAM8GB, mSata 240gb), T440p (IPS FHD, i5, RAM16GB, m.2 240gb + SSHD 1TB)

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Re: T440p ERROR 2101: Detection error on ssd1 (M.2)

#2 Post by jdrou » Thu Oct 25, 2018 6:18 pm

What brand/model SSD? AFAIK the only makers of 42mm M.2 SATA SSDs are the OK Transcend and a few 'not recommended' others.

Did you test with the SSD and no HDD? Did you do the install on the SSD while the HDD was installed? (These probably wouldn't have anything to do with that error but just want to be complete, making sure it's not a bootloader issue.)
Current Thinkpads:
X31, X40, X61T, X61, X201, X220 (i7 IPS), W520 (2720QM/2000M/FHD), T440p (i7-4800MQ/GF730GT/FHD),
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Dells: Latitude C840, Precision M70, Precision M4400, M6400 (WUXGA), M6600, M6700, Dell XPS 13 w/Kaby Lake+Iris Pro+TB3
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Re: T440p ERROR 2101: Detection error on ssd1 (M.2)

#3 Post by kaddafi88 » Wed Nov 14, 2018 3:20 pm

It was KingSpec, but a couple of days ago it failed. Its size is now 132 kb.
Today I bought a new disc Transcent MTS420 for 240 GB. The laptop does not see at all. I am disappointed not to understand the reasons.
Thinkpad x230 (IPS, RAM8GB, mSata 240gb), T440p (IPS FHD, i5, RAM16GB, m.2 240gb + SSHD 1TB)

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Re: T440p ERROR 2101: Detection error on ssd1 (M.2)

#4 Post by RealBlackStuff » Wed Nov 14, 2018 4:01 pm

You need a SATA M.2/NGFF SSD, not the very similar PCIe M.2 NGFF.
T440/T440s/T440p need the 2242 type with a B-key.
E.g. this will work: MyDigitalSSD 240GB (256GB) Super Boot 2 (SB2) 42mm (2242) SATA III (6G) M.2 NGFF SSD Solid State Drive - MDM242-SB2-0256
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Re: T440p ERROR 2101: Detection error on ssd1 (M.2)

#5 Post by jdrou » Mon Dec 03, 2018 11:52 pm

I would have expected the MTS420 to work; that's a SATA drive (3D NAND version of the MTS400 I have).
Might have some other problem than a bad/wrong drive. Maybe the M.2 slot is damaged or something.
Does the laptop work fine with nothing in the slot?
Current Thinkpads:
X31, X40, X61T, X61, X201, X220 (i7 IPS), W520 (2720QM/2000M/FHD), T440p (i7-4800MQ/GF730GT/FHD),
T480 (i7-8650U/GF150MX/QHD)
Dells: Latitude C840, Precision M70, Precision M4400, M6400 (WUXGA), M6600, M6700, Dell XPS 13 w/Kaby Lake+Iris Pro+TB3
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Re: T440p ERROR 2101: Detection error on ssd1 (M.2)

#6 Post by ameeno » Wed Apr 17, 2019 4:43 am

Any Update on this thread?

Was it a dodgy card? Dodgy Slot?

Dodgy BIOS??

Or the card is simply incompatible?

The reason for my asking is i have the same laptop and the same card OTW. but now i am concerned this card is incompatible.

T440P SSD in the m.2 slot seems like quite a lottery :(

anyways, The card i just pressed the buy button on on ebay is:
https://www.transcend-info.com/Products/No-766

Listing: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/TRANSCEND-MT ... SwqMpbmNpO

As you can see there is NO MENTION of NGFF on the listing only m.2 ssd sata 3 bus. so it should work .. but i am scared now :(

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Re: T440p ERROR 2101: Detection error on ssd1 (M.2)

#7 Post by jdrou » Wed Apr 17, 2019 4:52 pm

ameeno wrote:
Wed Apr 17, 2019 4:43 am
As you can see there is NO MENTION of NGFF on the listing only m.2 ssd sata 3 bus. so it should work .. but i am scared now :(
NGFF "Next Generation Form Factor" is just what they called the M.2 slot before it was standardized and some places still use it as a keyword for searches.
Current Thinkpads:
X31, X40, X61T, X61, X201, X220 (i7 IPS), W520 (2720QM/2000M/FHD), T440p (i7-4800MQ/GF730GT/FHD),
T480 (i7-8650U/GF150MX/QHD)
Dells: Latitude C840, Precision M70, Precision M4400, M6400 (WUXGA), M6600, M6700, Dell XPS 13 w/Kaby Lake+Iris Pro+TB3
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Re: T440p ERROR 2101: Detection error on ssd1 (M.2)

#8 Post by ameeno » Thu Apr 18, 2019 4:29 am

OK,

Thanks for the info.
The card i am refering to says "Space-saving M.2 SATA form factor (42mm) for ultra-compact computing devices"

Does that mean it should work on thinkpad?

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Re: T440p ERROR 2101: Detection error on ssd1 (M.2)

#9 Post by RealBlackStuff » Thu Apr 18, 2019 5:46 am

The xx40 Thinkpads need the Transcend MTS400 Series drives, NOT the MTS420 Series, which have a RAID-engine.
The MTS400 works there without problems, e.g. this one: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B075P1JSGL/re ... UTF8&psc=1

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Re: T440p ERROR 2101: Detection error on ssd1 (M.2)

#10 Post by jdrou » Mon May 20, 2019 11:29 pm

RealBlackStuff wrote:
Thu Apr 18, 2019 5:46 am
The xx40 Thinkpads need the Transcend MTS400 Series drives, NOT the MTS420 Series, which have a RAID-engine.
The MTS400 works there without problems, e.g. this one: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B075P1JSGL/re ... UTF8&psc=1
I believe MTS420S has now been reported to work in T440p. It doesn't have DRAM cache like the MTS400 so lower performance but there is now an MTS430S with DRAM and a 512GB version like the MTS400 (also much longer write lifetime than 420S). I plan on trying it as soon as Amazon gets it in stock.
Current Thinkpads:
X31, X40, X61T, X61, X201, X220 (i7 IPS), W520 (2720QM/2000M/FHD), T440p (i7-4800MQ/GF730GT/FHD),
T480 (i7-8650U/GF150MX/QHD)
Dells: Latitude C840, Precision M70, Precision M4400, M6400 (WUXGA), M6600, M6700, Dell XPS 13 w/Kaby Lake+Iris Pro+TB3
Daily driver: T480

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