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T530 Quad Core + Thinkpad 4337 Mini Dock Series 3?

#1 Post by dingdong » Sat Aug 10, 2019 2:51 pm

I have a Lenovo Type 4337 Mini Dock Series 3 docking station with a 90W AC adapter:

P/N 75Y5732
FRU P/N 75Y5733

Acccording to the Docks, Port Replicator, Ultrabase - Reference Guide (*) a T530 Quad Core is not supported with the Lenovo Type 4337 Mini Dock Series 3 docking station while, according to (*) the ThinkPad Mini Dock Plus Series 3 - 170W is supported - though T530 is not mentioned on the ThinkPad Mini Dock Plus Series 3 - 170W - Overview and Service Parts page.

When comparing the Overview and Service Parts page of both docks: ThinkPad Mini Dock Series 3 - 90W and ThinkPad Mini Dock Plus Series 3 - 170W it seems the only difference is the AC adapter, number of video ports and an eSATA connector.

1) Is this correct?

2) If so, can a T530 Quad Core be used on a Type 4337 Mini Dock Series 3 with a 170W (or 135W) AC adapter (instead of the 90W AC adapter)?

3) As the 4337 Mini Dock Series 3 is supported with a Thinkpad X220, is there any objection against docking using a 170W AC (or 135W) adapter?
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Re: T530 Quad Core + Thinkpad 4337 Mini Dock Series 3?

#2 Post by dr_st » Sun Aug 11, 2019 12:08 am

1) Yes
2) Yes, but the 170W plug will not physically fit unless you modify the tip or the connector on the dock. See this picture. The 135W will work fine.
3) No
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Re: T530 Quad Core + Thinkpad 4337 Mini Dock Series 3?

#3 Post by w0qj » Sun Aug 11, 2019 2:32 am

We have the Mini Dock Series 3 (Type 4337-x x x), and it is compatible with our dual-core CPU X230 and T410 which we also have.

Think what you are really looking for is the "ThinkPad Mini Dock Plus Series 3 (i.e. Workstation model) (Product number: 4338-x x x)".

www.thinkscopes.com/2012/11/10/thinkpad ... replicator

There are actually two (2) sub-models for this ThinkPad Mini Dock Plus Series 3 (i.e. Workstation model) (Product number: 4338-x x x):

a) Earlier model: USB 2.0 ports, and 135W AC adapter.

b) Later model (introduced just before this entire Mini Dock Series 3 was discontinued, thus hard to find):
USB 3.0 ports, and 170W AC adapter.

- - - - - - - - - -
Other postings regarding this series of Mini Dock Series 3 that may or may not be pertinent to you:
http://forums.lenovo.com/t5/ThinkPad-X- ... -p/1028527
http://forums.lenovo.com/t5/ThinkPad-X- ... -p/1054125
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Re: T530 Quad Core + Thinkpad 4337 Mini Dock Series 3?

#4 Post by dr_st » Sun Aug 11, 2019 3:12 am

w0qj wrote:
Sun Aug 11, 2019 2:32 am
We have the Mini Dock Series 3 (Type 4337-x x x), and it is compatible with our dual-core CPU X230 and T410 which we also have.

Think what you are really looking for is the "ThinkPad Mini Dock Plus Series 3 (i.e. Workstation model) (Product number: 4338-xxx)".
The 4338 (Mini Dock Plus) have a few more ports, but other than that they are compatible with exactly the same Thinkpads as 4337 and 4336 (with the exception of the different connector shape for the 170W PSU, that I mentioned above).
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Re: T530 Quad Core + Thinkpad 4337 Mini Dock Series 3?

#5 Post by dingdong » Sun Aug 11, 2019 4:00 am

OK thanks, that's good news.

Unless I'm mistaken, T530 QC's have a 135W AC adapter so it should work with the 4337 Mini Dock Series 3.

I'm wondering though: the ThinkPad Mini Dock Plus Series 3 with USB 3.0 have a 170W adapter. What is the additional #W's useful/needed for?
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Re: T530 Quad Core + Thinkpad 4337 Mini Dock Series 3?

#6 Post by dr_st » Sun Aug 11, 2019 4:05 am

dingdong wrote:
Sun Aug 11, 2019 4:00 am
I'm wondering though: the ThinkPad Mini Dock Plus Series 3 with USB 3.0 have a 170W adapter. What is the additional #W's useful/needed for?
Workstation laptops with Quad-Core CPUs and powerful extended graphics + lots of peripherals connected.
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Re: T530 Quad Core + Thinkpad 4337 Mini Dock Series 3?

#7 Post by dingdong » Sun Aug 11, 2019 5:10 am

Excuse my ignorance, what is "powerful extended graphics"?
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Re: T530 Quad Core + Thinkpad 4337 Mini Dock Series 3?

#8 Post by axur-delmeria » Sun Aug 11, 2019 5:23 am

dingdong wrote:
Sun Aug 11, 2019 5:10 am
Excuse my ignorance, what is "powerful extended graphics"?
The W530 has nVidia Quadro K1000M/K2000M GPUs with 55 watts TDP. The T530 may have Intel-only graphics, or the NVS 5400M which is only 40 watts.
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Re: T530 Quad Core + Thinkpad 4337 Mini Dock Series 3?

#9 Post by kfzhu1229 » Sun Aug 11, 2019 10:05 pm

dingdong wrote:
Sun Aug 11, 2019 4:00 am
Unless I'm mistaken, T530 QC's have a 135W AC adapter so it should work with the 4337 Mini Dock Series 3.
My T530i has a i7-3720qm quad core and NVS 5400M, yet it works perfectly fine with a 90W power adapter that came with this laptop when it had a i3-2328m. Sure I swapped out the single 2gb ddr3 stick for a pair of 8gb ddr3l ones, but that shouldn't do that much of wattage difference.
It's only the less powerful heatsink in my variant that doesnt cut it well so I put liquid metal in.
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Re: T530 Quad Core + Thinkpad 4337 Mini Dock Series 3?

#10 Post by dingdong » Mon Aug 12, 2019 1:02 am

Thanks for clarifying that because that's what I was wondering about just a moment ago.
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