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Thinkpad to buy for $150, or < $200 shipped?

#1 Post by Beldar » Wed Jul 15, 2020 5:01 pm

What Thinkpad to buy for around $150, or less than $200 shipped? 15" or maybe 14". My T510 payment was just refunded by the ebay seller, so now I'm wondering. I like the Thinkpad community and the old laptops, but I only got the T510 before I found this group. I want Win10 to go on it, or already installed, and I want 1600x900.

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Re: Thinkpad to buy for $150, or < $200 shipped?

#2 Post by RealBlackStuff » Thu Jul 16, 2020 12:35 am

Check eBay for: lenovo t440p 1600x900
Very upgradeable for when you have more money available.
Substitute t440p with w530/t450/t450s
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Re: Thinkpad to buy for $150, or < $200 shipped?

#3 Post by Beldar » Thu Jul 16, 2020 4:36 am

Thanks, will do.

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Re: Thinkpad to buy for $150, or < $200 shipped?

#4 Post by kfzhu1229 » Thu Jul 16, 2020 7:47 am

RealBlackStuff wrote:
Thu Jul 16, 2020 12:35 am
Check eBay for: lenovo t440p 1600x900
Very upgradeable for when you have more money available.
Substitute t440p with w530/t450/t450s
Yeah but aren't you settling on the world famous by a very long shot the worst Ultranav system you will ever get on a ThinkPad T series?
The T/Wx20 series will give you more classic ThinkPad keyboards and ultranav system with physical buttons for both pointing devices, you only get the latter with T/Wx30 series and none on T/Wx40 series.
And from what I was able to find for C$200 laptops, the prices did go up in this pandemic so a T440p with 1600x900 at US$200 shipped might be a stretch and you have to have a keen eye on eBay.
As for me I just gave up finding the Sandy bridge or ivy bridge ones for C$200 and went for a top dog Latitude E6500 with a T9900 preinstalled, a WUXGA dual CCFL LCD, NVS160M and a backlit keyboard.
Completing that with SSD 6GB of RAM and a charger it is about C$130.
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#5 Post by RealBlackStuff » Thu Jul 16, 2020 9:57 am

@kfzhu1229:
It seems that you have turned your back on Thinkpads and have become a Dell-boy. :(

As for clunkpads, that only applies to the T440p I mentioned. An Alps touchpad there will do wonders.
I suggested the xx50 models because of their good battery life and LCD-options.
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Re: Thinkpad to buy for $150, or < $200 shipped?

#6 Post by MikalE » Thu Jul 16, 2020 10:28 am

I was sort of hoping to find someone who would be willing to trade a less than a year old top of the line Dell G3 for a P1, T25, or T480.

I'm still thinking about posting an ad. The system still has a few months of warranty. I just like TP's more than I like Dell products.
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Re: Thinkpad to buy for $150, or < $200 shipped?

#7 Post by ThreeIguanasPerSecond » Thu Jul 16, 2020 10:39 am

kfzhu1229 wrote:
Thu Jul 16, 2020 7:47 am
top dog Latitude E6500 with a T9900 preinstalled, a WUXGA dual CCFL LCD, NVS160M and a backlit keyboard. Completing that with SSD 6GB of RAM and a charger it is about C$130.
allow me to compete with my top percentage Tecra A10 with an X9100 which i installed, a TN TFT CCFL 1920x1200 LCD which is about as dim as my bedside lamp, a NVS 150M that's about to cook itself, all packaged nicely with the shell of a Satellite Pro S300 and a standard Toshiba keyboard with no pointing stick. this hotrodded clunker has a dual-channel 8GB RAM setup and a crappy shingled magnetic recording WD Blue WD20SPZX 2TB HDD too.

to top it all off, its got a darn quick Broadcom BCM943460MC 3x3 MIMO ac WLAN card. with a grand 1300Mbps limit it beats all 7260 ACs i could find on the market. i got this all for $600 and i'm happy with it. how's yours?
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Re: Thinkpad to buy for $150, or < $200 shipped?

#8 Post by kfzhu1229 » Thu Jul 16, 2020 1:19 pm

RealBlackStuff wrote:
Thu Jul 16, 2020 9:57 am
@kfzhu1229:
It seems that you have turned your back on Thinkpads and have become a Dell-boy. :(
I really have no luck with good deals on ThinkPads lately and I grabbed Dells instead, and this continued as ppl don't know the Latitudes well and yeah.
I have no interest in T6x due to their price tags for being 4:3 and I already have two sad T520's in my hands due to my extreme bad luck with it. Don't know what's with my luck but I was originally trying to use the T520 to fit under that price tag but unfortunately everything went haywire with my restoration on them, yet everything worked perfectly when I later picked up a E6500 that is sold As is, even though the T520 is studier.
A T400/T500 locally at my place would sell for like 50% more expensive just because it's a ThinkPad. eBay laptops are out of the question because of insane postage rates and 13% sales tax.
No luck with elitebooks either as there just don't seem to be a lot of it on sale in Canada.
Also Dell accessories here are extremely cheap and abundant.
Got a batch of T4x that are working still though, as well as an A30p and 600 that I am keeping.
I also kinda got fed up with cracking plastics on the T4x, one of the reasons I went with a Latitude for daily driving instead. I have replaced the palmrest twice on my T43p and yet it is cracked once again. And all of my newer ThinkPads including X220i, T520 and T530 have cracked plastics somewhere on the chassis.
So yeah most of my ThinkPads are getting preserved and maintained for increase in value later and Dells are getting abused.
ThreeIguanasPerSecond wrote:
Thu Jul 16, 2020 10:39 am
allow me to compete with my top percentage Tecra A10 with an X9100 which i installed, a TN TFT CCFL 1920x1200 LCD which is about as dim as my bedside lamp, a NVS 150M that's about to cook itself, all packaged nicely with the shell of a Satellite Pro S300 and a standard Toshiba keyboard with no pointing stick. this hotrodded clunker has a dual-channel 8GB RAM setup and a crappy shingled magnetic recording WD Blue WD20SPZX 2TB HDD too.

to top it all off, its got a darn quick Broadcom BCM943460MC 3x3 MIMO ac WLAN card. with a grand 1300Mbps limit it beats all 7260 ACs i could find on the market. i got this all for $600 and i'm happy with it. how's yours?
I guess mine is very much a stark contrast to yours. I have Dual CCFL 1920x1200 Ultrasharp that's as bright as the 1080p panels on my T520 and T530 but drains down the battery like nothing else. A NVS 160M with GDDR3 and runs off a totally separate heatsink thus reasonably cool, a shell in extremely good condition, a keyboard with backlit and for the first time for Dell has a pointing stick cap that my finger doesn't slip on, 6GB of DDR2 and a brand new Toshiba SSD, Intel wifi card that can cook itself to death if used on 802.11n for too long.
I rather not swap the board out for a Precision M4400 board just to get extreme CPUs working (also quad cores too). It's meant for someone in Costa Rica anyway and I rather not want things heating up and fail.
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Re: Thinkpad to buy for $150, or < $200 shipped?

#9 Post by Beldar » Thu Jul 16, 2020 4:56 pm

I suggest buying a fire-sale church and investing in museum quality plexiglass boxes. :banana:

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Re: Thinkpad to buy for $150, or < $200 shipped?

#10 Post by atagunov » Thu Jul 16, 2020 7:56 pm

kfzhu1229 wrote:
Thu Jul 16, 2020 1:19 pm
And all of my newer ThinkPads including X220i, T520 and T530 have cracked plastics somewhere on the chassis. So yeah most of my ThinkPads are getting preserved and maintained for increase in value later and Dells are getting abused.
Heh, something wrong with this world?.. At least in my corner of the universe X220/T520 are taking abuse well. Chipped X220 palmrest is a good match to the shabbiness of my own face when I wake up :) Really RBS I think nailed the best choices. W530 for a hard-to-beat CPU score/large screen/classic keyboard/horrible weight/shorter battery life, T450s for lightness, T440p for toying with. Some X2*0(t) for extreme portability I guess.

Never tried this but a Thinkpad with a missing key-cap might be a good find on ebay. Key-cap costs $3 but many people will ignore the machine. Going bellow *20 or *30 generation definitely not advisable for day-to-day use. I daily-drive on *20 but wouldn't mind a bit more omph
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Re: Thinkpad to buy for $150, or < $200 shipped?

#11 Post by kfzhu1229 » Thu Jul 16, 2020 11:09 pm

atagunov wrote:
Thu Jul 16, 2020 7:56 pm
Heh, something wrong with this world?.. At least in my corner of the universe X220/T520 are taking abuse well. Chipped X220 palmrest is a good match to the shabbiness of my own face when I wake up :) Really RBS I think nailed the best choices. W530 for a hard-to-beat CPU score/large screen/classic keyboard/horrible weight/shorter battery life, T450s for lightness, T440p for toying with. Some X2*0(t) for extreme portability I guess.

Never tried this but a Thinkpad with a missing key-cap might be a good find on ebay. Key-cap costs $3 but many people will ignore the machine. Going bellow *20 or *30 generation definitely not advisable for day-to-day use. I daily-drive on *20 but wouldn't mind a bit more omph
Yeah well I thought I was just having bad luck with even the stronger ThinkPad plastics. Had my hands on half a dozen Latitude D6xx/D8xx series and it can have issues anywhere from seized up hinges to cracked up screens to extremely worn down palmrests, but the palmrest is always in one piece and not a single crack that annoys me as much as cracked palmrest corners on the T520 and X220i and disintegrating heatsink grills on my T530 and that was my point. Perhaps the plastics are just bulkier and thicker there. In any way though they still aged a far cry better than something like a Toshiba Satellite A200 whose plastics are basically equivalent of a laptop put together by layers of crisps today.
Well speaking of keycaps I now have a crap load of keycaps for T/Wx20/x30 series because I have not one, not two, but three of these keyboards with broken traces. Fixed one of them and the other two are basically just sitting there.
Well I am rocking X9000 machines and selling a T9900 based Dells so quite a bit older here. Again it is that they are extremely cheap to replace when it breaks and exterior magnesium frame means no cracking plastics, and also I got C$5 9 cell batteries for the former. Since I came from a T43p with a single Pentium M, these X9000 CPU's with the NVS cards run absolutely circles around a Pentium M 780 anyway.
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Re: Thinkpad to buy for $150, or < $200 shipped?

#12 Post by MikalE » Fri Jul 17, 2020 5:20 am

Keep rocking your machines and you'll be replacing all of the plastic.
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Re: Thinkpad to buy for $150, or < $200 shipped?

#13 Post by Beldar » Fri Jul 17, 2020 3:47 pm

After telling the seller's tech rep about what had happened, he guessed it was a bad/wrong AC adapter, thought I'd maybe do better with a 90 watt instead of the 65 watt they shipped. "Sometimes the packers get it wrong". So I asked if they'd ship me a 90 watt. "No, we'll just refund the whole cost of the T510". So I ordered a 90 watt from Amazon for $20 and IT WORKS! I got a T510, now with free Win10 installed, for the cost of a $20 adapter! Of course that doesn't count the $50 extra I spent for a Samsung 860 EVO 250GB SSD. BTW the refund did go through.

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Re: Thinkpad to buy for $150, or < $200 shipped?

#14 Post by kfzhu1229 » Sat Jul 18, 2020 12:51 am

Beldar wrote:
Fri Jul 17, 2020 3:47 pm
After telling the seller's tech rep about what had happened, he guessed it was a bad/wrong AC adapter, thought I'd maybe do better with a 90 watt instead of the 65 watt they shipped. "Sometimes the packers get it wrong". So I asked if they'd ship me a 90 watt. "No, we'll just refund the whole cost of the T510". So I ordered a 90 watt from Amazon for $20 and IT WORKS! I got a T510, now with free Win10 installed, for the cost of a $20 adapter! Of course that doesn't count the $50 extra I spent for a Samsung 860 EVO 250GB SSD. BTW the refund did go through.
Nice deal! Though maybe not by the most fair means.
Reminds me of buying my first 4GB DDR2 sticks from taobao for a free Latitude D630 resurrection project. Bought the pair from different sellers, and one of them has the tracking hung at parcel received for like a week already, so I asked the seller what to do and seems like he got frustrated with it too but I thought he was purposely shying away from me and didn't actually send the parcel, so I went ahead and processed the refund, and it went through after timeout from the seller.
Then half a year later when I came back to China again, I see the ram stick lying in the drawer and I was told it arrived like a month after I left (which by Chinese standards is utterly unacceptable) and got it for free :lol:
Dell Lat CP MMX-233 64mb 40gb W2k
600 PII-266 416mb 40gb WXP
T23 PIII 1.13ghz 1gb W7
Lat D830 X9000 8gb 128gb WSXGA+ Ultrasharp fp W10
T530i 15.6" i7 16gb fp W10
UXGA:
A30p PIII 1.2 1gb W7 (IDTech)
T43p 2.26 2gb fp W10 (Sharp)
Lat C840 P4-2.5 2gb 60gb W7 (Ultrasharp)

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