Thinkpads Forum

bobodod wrote:A ThinkPad X230 2325-F87 is showing up on distributor and some retailer's websites. It's listed as "CompuCom Only," which isn't a criteria I'm familiar with. Assuming this means sales are exclusive to the IT provider named CompuCom, I guess I'll have to make a friend there.

specs

• Core i7 i7-2960XM Extreme Edition 2.7GHz quad core with 8MB L3
• 1900x1080 TFT
• 16GB RAM
• 320GB HDD [a plus in my book, because it adds minimal cost to the package and I'll be upgrading to an SSD anyway]
• NVIDIA Quadro 2000M with 2GB

Was this model finally released?

If it was, I doubt it had a 1080 LCD.

joandreani wrote:Was this model finally released?

ThinkPad X230 2325-F87

i5-3320M(3.3GHz), 4GB RAM, 128GB Solid State Drive, 12.5in 1366x768 LCD, Intel HD Graphics, Intel 802.11agn wireless, 1Gb Ethernet, UltraNav, Secure Chip, Fingerprint reader, Camera, 4c Li-Ion, Win7 Pro 64

Cheers,

Bill B.

No, there isn't any FHD option for X230. But there are rumors about X1 Helix tablet with 11.6" FHD IPS screen http://forum.thinkpads.com/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=106922

There will be a ThinkPad Helix coming out that is 11.6 inch with FHD IPS. So X231s (which is revealed in Lenovo's drivers page) may potentially have a higher resolution than the HD LCD that we are currently using the in X220 and X230.

lead_org wrote:There will be a ThinkPad Helix coming out that is 11.6 inch with FHD IPS. So X231s (which is revealed in Lenovo's drivers page) may potentially have a higher resolution than the HD LCD that we are currently using the in X220 and X230.

that would be such good news... the 1440 * 900 screen of my former x200s was just perfect!

lead_org wrote:There will be a ThinkPad Helix coming out that is 11.6 inch with FHD IPS.

The Helix is not a laptop but a slate tablet to which a keyboard can be attached. Since the Retina iPad came out, many slates have had screens with super high pixel densities, such as my Barnes & Nobel Nook HD+ with 9" 1920x1280 (*not* 1920x1080 or 1920x1200). Just because Lenovo opted for a high-res screen for a slate doesn't mean similar screens are coming for Thinkpad laptops.

I don't understand why high resolutions are considered important for slates and Apple laptops but not for PC laptops.

pianowizard wrote: I don't understand why high resolutions are considered important for slates and Apple laptops but not for PC laptops.

Perhaps it's easier to improve yields on high-density screens for smaller sizes?

I also tried getting a high-end Sony (s13) with a trackpad as a replacement for my trackpoint. Result: I sold it within a month. For one thing, while you're typing you will inevitably move the mouse cursor around and while you can disable that with "PalmCheck", this feature also makes it impossible to hold a keyboard key while moving the mouse cursor around. Not to mention having to move from the home row.

Another reason why I want a Lenovo again is their 3 year international(!) on-site next business day repair warranty. I walked into a shop in China the other day and had my x200 screen replaced for free, within 4 hours.

Yet, I've also moved to Android development and could really do with the extra vertical real estate and the faster processor. The x200 was somewhat manageable at 800 vertical pixels, but why they decided to go with the other form factor that leaves even less valuable vertical space, is beyond me.

I should like to know when an x240 is released with at least 900 vertical pixels. Everything else is balls.

You could also consider a T430s with 1600x900 display (although non-IPS)...

bluppfisk wrote:I also tried getting a high-end Sony (s13)

Actually, the S13 and S15 are just mid-range, not high-end. The Z Series is Sony's high-end line.

joandreani wrote:

• Core i7 i7-2960XM Extreme Edition 2.7GHz quad core with 8MB L3
• 1900x1080 TFT
• 16GB RAM
• 320GB HDD [a plus in my book, because it adds minimal cost to the package and I'll be upgrading to an SSD anyway]
• NVIDIA Quadro 2000M with 2GB

This is just a mistake. Either they erroneously stated W520 specs for X230, or they erroneously labeled W520 as X230.

X230 does not support neither quad-core nor extreme-edition CPUs due to power consumption and heat-related problems. And even if it did, that would be an Ivy Bridge CPU, not previous-generation Sandy Bridge.
Similarly, X230 only ships with the integrated GPU, there is no room for discrete GPU in it, not to mention the same power consumption and heat-related problems. And even if there were some modifications with the discrete GPU, it would not be workstation-grade previous-generation Quadro.

Sandy Bridge means the specs are for some *20-generation thinkpad. Extreme Edition and Quad-Core means it is T5** or W5** or W7**. Quadro 2000M means it is W520. So the specs perfectly match W520, but are of no sense for X230.

ThinkRob wrote:

pianowizard wrote: I don't understand why high resolutions are considered important for slates and Apple laptops but not for PC laptops.

Perhaps it's easier to improve yields on high-density screens for smaller sizes?

WHY? Simple.. the angles and distances of these devices in relation to human beings are more OPEN and WIDE. There is no "Safe Zone". The experience of using them would be less TOLERABLE had they not had High Res and IPS (any angle) displays.

They are more HUMAN PERSONAL DAILY AUGMENTATION devices than WORK COMPUTERS.

But eventually there will be no RESOLUTIONS on displays. They will all be EYE/RETINA Capable.

PS: When was the last time you asked about the Resolution / Pixel Density of a Photograph from a Film Camera.