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x240 - trackpoint/trackpad problems and backlight keyboard support
x240 - trackpoint/trackpad problems and backlight keyboard support
Hello all,
I have a thinkpad x240 with an x250 trackpad, that I changed a year ago.
I spilled a lot of coffee on the keyboard, I left it to dry out during the night. After the next boot, the trackpad/trackpoint was behaving erratically so investigated further. The trackpoint buttons were not working so I thought I could switch the bad trackpad with the old x240 trackpad that I have laying around.
I guess I must have done something wrong, and now along with my trackpoint buttons, the pointing stick (nipple) and the trackpad are not working at all. thankfully, my keyboard is working, but I have to carry a mouse.
Since both the old (x240) and the new trackpad (x250) are not working (I checked), I presume that the flat cable that connects the trackpad is damaged. Is there a way to better diagnose the problem?
Also, as I understand, the cable to the trackpad comes from the keyboard. Now I have a non-backlight QWERTZ keyboard that I would ideally replace (if needed) with an backlit US QWERTY layout along with the trackpad. I called the lenovo service parthers in my country and they told me that my laptop DOES NOT support backlight keyboard. Can this be checked?
Sorry about the long expose and problem description,
Cheers
I have a thinkpad x240 with an x250 trackpad, that I changed a year ago.
I spilled a lot of coffee on the keyboard, I left it to dry out during the night. After the next boot, the trackpad/trackpoint was behaving erratically so investigated further. The trackpoint buttons were not working so I thought I could switch the bad trackpad with the old x240 trackpad that I have laying around.
I guess I must have done something wrong, and now along with my trackpoint buttons, the pointing stick (nipple) and the trackpad are not working at all. thankfully, my keyboard is working, but I have to carry a mouse.
Since both the old (x240) and the new trackpad (x250) are not working (I checked), I presume that the flat cable that connects the trackpad is damaged. Is there a way to better diagnose the problem?
Also, as I understand, the cable to the trackpad comes from the keyboard. Now I have a non-backlight QWERTZ keyboard that I would ideally replace (if needed) with an backlit US QWERTY layout along with the trackpad. I called the lenovo service parthers in my country and they told me that my laptop DOES NOT support backlight keyboard. Can this be checked?
Sorry about the long expose and problem description,
Cheers
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Re: x240 - trackpoint/trackpad problems and backlight keyboard support
The touchpad and Trackpoint share the same PS/2 port, so if one malfunctions, the other is also affected.
Most likely it's the Trackpoint that's malfunctioning after you spilled coffee on the keyboard. So disconnect its cable and check if the touchpad acts normally again.
Most likely it's the Trackpoint that's malfunctioning after you spilled coffee on the keyboard. So disconnect its cable and check if the touchpad acts normally again.
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Re: x240 - trackpoint/trackpad problems and backlight keyboard support
Hi, thank you for the input.axur-delmeria wrote: ↑Mon Apr 08, 2019 4:44 amThe touchpad and Trackpoint share the same PS/2 port, so if one malfunctions, the other is also affected.
Most likely it's the Trackpoint that's malfunctioning after you spilled coffee on the keyboard. So disconnect its cable and check if the touchpad acts normally again.
Do you think a new keyboard with backlight can be installed?
Cheers
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Re: x240 - trackpoint/trackpad problems and backlight keyboard support
The clunkpad/touchpad+buttons has its own cable, not connected to the trackpoint.
It goes directly from -pad to motherboard.
And yes, X240 can take keyboards with backlight.
Go for a LiteOn one, they are the best.
But to do so, you'll have to almost take the whole laptop apart!
You can find a parts-list here: https://download.lenovo.com/parts/Think ... 150530.pdf
It goes directly from -pad to motherboard.
And yes, X240 can take keyboards with backlight.
Go for a LiteOn one, they are the best.
But to do so, you'll have to almost take the whole laptop apart!
You can find a parts-list here: https://download.lenovo.com/parts/Think ... 150530.pdf
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Re: x240 - trackpoint/trackpad problems and backlight keyboard support
What is the difference between a LiteOn and no LiteOn ?
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Re: x240 - trackpoint/trackpad problems and backlight keyboard support
LiteOn vs Chicony vs SRX.
Plenty info on the web.
Plenty info on the web.
Re: x240 - trackpoint/trackpad problems and backlight keyboard support
Hello again,
I thank you for your advices. It looks like the flat cable that connects the trackpad is damaged. Do you have any experience with replacing it?
Maybe a place where it can be bought. I found couple of AliExpress sites (no amazon in my country unfortunately).
with regards
I thank you for your advices. It looks like the flat cable that connects the trackpad is damaged. Do you have any experience with replacing it?
Maybe a place where it can be bought. I found couple of AliExpress sites (no amazon in my country unfortunately).
with regards
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Re: x240 - trackpoint/trackpad problems and backlight keyboard support
There are 2 versions:
- a short cable for only pad-to-motherboard, 04Y1661 or 00HT397, seen here: https://www.ebay.com/itm/254172560664
--- easy job, but hard to find and usually expensive
- a long cable which also includes the fingerprint, 04Y1660 or 00HT396, seen here: https://www.ebay.com/itm/253805125955
--- difficult job, but easy to find and usually cheap(er)
If you don't want/need the FPR (or want to save money for a short cable), you can cut off both long cables, but handle it carefully, those cables tear easily!
Also, some sellers got it all wrong, so look at the pictures/cable size of what they sell.
- a short cable for only pad-to-motherboard, 04Y1661 or 00HT397, seen here: https://www.ebay.com/itm/254172560664
--- easy job, but hard to find and usually expensive
- a long cable which also includes the fingerprint, 04Y1660 or 00HT396, seen here: https://www.ebay.com/itm/253805125955
--- difficult job, but easy to find and usually cheap(er)
If you don't want/need the FPR (or want to save money for a short cable), you can cut off both long cables, but handle it carefully, those cables tear easily!
Also, some sellers got it all wrong, so look at the pictures/cable size of what they sell.
Re: x240 - trackpoint/trackpad problems and backlight keyboard support
Hi again,
I successfully ordered new trackpad and trackpad cable from this page: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/328467 ... 4c4dDGNe8C
Did the swap yesterday and now everything is working . Used this guide ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HTN-CO_flVs) for disassembly of the computer and swapped the cable and did a little bit of cleaning.
Thank you all for the help and cheers
J
I successfully ordered new trackpad and trackpad cable from this page: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/328467 ... 4c4dDGNe8C
Did the swap yesterday and now everything is working . Used this guide ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HTN-CO_flVs) for disassembly of the computer and swapped the cable and did a little bit of cleaning.
Thank you all for the help and cheers
J
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