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X240/250/260... differences and questions

#1 Post by Whitieiii » Fri May 24, 2019 11:12 am

What are the biggest differences between the 3 besides the CPU and trackpad? I'm deciding on one to replace my T440s (since it maybe going to my mum) I'm not wanting a powerful one and only need 8GB of ram also since these machines might not include the bridge battery and if there isn't, is there a docking station battery base like what is on the x220? Any recommendations and suggestions on what to buy would also be nice but then that basically looking for a nice machine to travel with and become my daily machine

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Re: X240/250/260... differences and questions

#2 Post by dr_st » Fri May 24, 2019 12:32 pm

The best way to get your questions answered is to search for "XXX Platform specifications", where "XXX" is the Thinkpad model you're interested in. It will take you to nice PDFs that summarize the main points, and you can compare.

All three models use the same docks your T440s can use. I'm not familiar with any compatible slice batteries.

They all have the [censored] keyboard which uses the same physical key for End and Insert.
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Re: X240/250/260... differences and questions

#3 Post by w0qj » Fri May 24, 2019 2:00 pm

1. Brief overview of X240/X250/X260 here: All three models are functionally about the same.
www.pcmag.com/feature/319667/lenovo-thinkpad-x240
www.pcmag.com/review/336276/lenovo-thinkpad-x250
www.pcmag.com/review/348554/lenovo-thinkpad-x260

For additional details, you can search at www.notebookcheck.net

2. From looking at above three (3) pcmag.com webpages, all three models are functionally about the same:

2a) All three models X240/X250/X260 have these: 802.11ac Wifi support, external battery + internal battery, built-in LAN port, SD-Card slot, 2.5" SATA interface for HDD/SSD.
~X240: two (2) USB 3.0 ports, rectangular slim tip charging jack, no USB-C port.
~X250: two (2) USB 3.0 ports, rectangular slim tip charging jack, no USB-C port.
~X260: three (3) USB 3.0 ports, rectangular slim tip charging jack, no USB-C port.

2b) We can attest that having three (3) USB 3.0 ports is sometimes needed for us (USB mouse, external HDD, USB thumbstick, or USB connection to your printer).
We sorely miss the missing third USB port when we upgraded our X230 (with three (3) USB 3.0 ports) to X250 (with two (2) USB 3.0 ports).
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Re: X240/250/260... differences and questions

#4 Post by Whitieiii » Fri May 24, 2019 5:24 pm

dr_st wrote:The best way to get your questions answered is to search for "XXX Platform specifications", where "XXX" is the Thinkpad model you're interested in. It will take you to nice PDFs that summarize the main points, and you can compare.

All three models use the same docks your T440s can use. I'm not familiar with any compatible slice batteries.

They all have the [censored] keyboard which uses the same physical key for End and Insert.
That's awesome... my T440p takes priority of my docking station though since it plays my early 2010's video games... I know I want the i3 or i5

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Re: X240/250/260... differences and questions

#5 Post by Tasurinchi » Mon May 27, 2019 9:02 am

X250 and X260 will support a single 16GB RAM module.
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Re: X240/250/260... differences and questions

#6 Post by Whitieiii » Fri May 31, 2019 4:02 pm

With machines that only support 1 ram stick I'm only limited to 8GB do to ram prices.... But I'm not sure what I wanna go with...

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Re: X240/250/260... differences and questions

#7 Post by w0qj » Sat Jun 01, 2019 10:04 am

If you do serious work on your computer with Win10 64-bit, then I personally (strongly) suggest 16GB RAM.
It's quite easy to go over the 8 GB RAM usage nowadays.

Browsers and webpages are no longer trying hard to reduce their memory usage.
My pet peeve is that webpages are now regularly embedding video content, greatlg increasing your RAM usage for each tab.
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Re: X240/250/260... differences and questions

#8 Post by madicetea » Sun Jun 09, 2019 3:42 am

Whitieiii wrote:
Fri May 24, 2019 11:12 am
What are the biggest differences between the 3 besides the CPU and trackpad? I'm deciding on one to replace my T440s (since it maybe going to my mum) I'm not wanting a powerful one and only need 8GB of ram also since these machines might not include the bridge battery and if there isn't, is there a docking station battery base like what is on the x220? Any recommendations and suggestions on what to buy would also be nice but then that basically looking for a nice machine to travel with and become my daily machine

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X250 and X260 don't have any difference in Trackpad iirc, though I guess you might be particular if it is Alpine or Symantec hardware. I can't remember if there was a difference this far out in the generations. Most people make the trackpad distinctions between X240 and X250, but you probably already knew this.

X260 I think might even use DDD4 memory, while X240 and X250 are DDR3 memory. X250 and X260 support single 16GB SoDIMMs (although, again different generation memory).

The big things for me are that the BIOS whitelist is not a thing anymore past a certain version of X250 BIOS. Perhaps this is also so with X260 BIOS as well. This allows me e.g. to run Intel 9260 WLAN card, or to plug in any various number of Sierra Wireless WWAN, SD card readers / USB readers etc. in the PCIE. Also the X250 comes with native support for a third SSD in the m.2 2240/42 form factor using the adapter for the Smart Card area (there is even a factory option to order the machine with a 16gb SSD cache there, but it can be taken out and with a bit of forced screwdriver usage a 1TB drive can be placed there). This allows three dedicated boot drives -- which might be useful, e.g. for Windows, Linux, and Storage / File / Backup / VM usage.

The battery bridge is one of the most useful features of this generation. I highly suggest the very large 72wh external battery with the 24wH internal one. It is a true all-day use machine when combined.

Hope these (admittedly, rambling) thoughts help you.

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