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W530 Trouble

#1 Post by thealphaoverseer » Sun Jun 28, 2020 3:22 am

Hi Everyone!
This is my first post here, so please don't judge me. I'm also a novice with computers, but my friend inspired me to become interested. I have an old W530 with ok specs - 8GB RAM, K1000, i7 3rd gen. So, here was my problem:
- Screen glitched when I touched my laptop (horizontal bars, buzzing sound if audio is enabled)
- Could only use external keyboard and mouse
- Screen glitched when too hot
My friend suggested my motherboard was too old and solder was loose, so I tore apart my laptop but my motherboard looked fine. So I put it back together (although not so eloquently, the wires inside are all messy and I still have 4 screws without places to go) and voila! It started working perfectly fine again. Or is it really? Does anyone have an explanation for what happened? Thanks!

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Re: W530 Trouble

#2 Post by kfzhu1229 » Sun Jun 28, 2020 11:42 pm

Your NVidia GPU is on its way out and with the old crusty thermal paste it already starts showing you the early signs. Replacing that thermal paste will make the board live longer.
Your keyboard might be spill damaged and/or have blown fuses on the motherboard. The power button is on a separate trace on the keyboard and it might not be liquid damaged there.
I really had no idea how easy these keyboards are to liquid damage before. The spill resistant gasket doesn't protect the area between the Thinkvantage button and the power button, where underneath there is the brown ribbon cable pinched onto the membrane by a pressure metal bracket and some foam. If the liquid goes inbetween the membrane from that area, the keyboard is game over. I have such a keyboard on my T520 and tried to replace it twice and both of the replacement keyboards have the exact same problem. Now I am just gonna tear that thing apart, clean the traces and redraw the traces affected by the liquid with a conductive pen that I purchased.
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Re: W530 Trouble

#3 Post by axur-delmeria » Mon Jun 29, 2020 2:08 am

kfzhu1229 wrote:
Sun Jun 28, 2020 11:42 pm
Now I am just gonna tear that thing apart, clean the traces and redraw the traces affected by the liquid with a conductive pen that I purchased.
Let me know if you succeed with that trace redrawing idea.
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Re: W530 Trouble

#4 Post by thealphaoverseer » Mon Jun 29, 2020 2:50 am

Hi,
I am very confused. What's thermal paste? The grey powder smudged over the CPU and GPU? I haven't spilt anything on it.

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Re: W530 Trouble

#5 Post by thealphaoverseer » Mon Jun 29, 2020 2:57 am

Also, if the fuses were blown, I don't think I would have fixed it by disassembling it and reassembling it.
Originally, it didn't have this screen glitch problem, but then it developed this problem when the screen was closed (and 'close lid' set to 'do nothing') and then worsened. Note that when it glitches, it must restart to recover. I'm just concerned if this problem will reappear, because I'm planning to sell it.

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Re: W530 Trouble

#6 Post by axur-delmeria » Mon Jun 29, 2020 4:12 am

thealphaoverseer wrote:
Mon Jun 29, 2020 2:50 am
Hi,
I am very confused. What's thermal paste? The grey powder smudged over the CPU and GPU? I haven't spilt anything on it.
Grey powder? If you're describing it like that, then it means that it's already dried out. :o

Thermal paste is applied in order to fill in microscopic gaps between the processor/GPU and the heatsink. You should clean the processor, GPU, and heatsink, then apply new paste.
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Re: W530 Trouble

#7 Post by MikalE » Mon Jun 29, 2020 6:08 am

Your first stop should have been the hardware maintenance manual. It is available here under the .PDF link below the site header.

At least you'd know where those four screws are supposed to be.
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Re: W530 Trouble

#8 Post by cadillacmike68 » Mon Jun 29, 2020 10:36 am

Go ahead and get the HMM as noted by Mikal. Use it as a reference while you do the following:

Get some quality thermal paste, like arctic silver 5, etc.
Disassemble to get at the heatsink / fan, remove it.
Clean the fan and CPU & GPU areas where they meet
Apply the new thermal paste, not too much
Re-attach the fan / heatsink
Re-assemble the system noting where all the screws are.

The problem Will re-appear, the question is how long. As was noted, the GPU is starting to go bad. Re-doing the thermal paste will help it not get too hot.
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Re: W530 Trouble

#9 Post by thealphaoverseer » Tue Jun 30, 2020 6:10 pm

Wow! Thanks for the info! Maybe relying on a dodgy Youtube video wasn't a good idea...
In the manual, it shows 3 ports for the wireless card. Mine only has two so the white cord is not connected to anything.
Hopefully, I might be able to borrow my friend's thermal paste after the holidays and put the screws back. I also noticed the black tape was not sticky anymore so my wires are all over the place. Can I use sticky tape instead? There was also this foil tape thing near my fan - same thing happened. What does it do? My GPU averages 55 degrees when running a stress test like FurMark - is that too hot?

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Re: W530 Trouble

#10 Post by cadillacmike68 » Tue Jun 30, 2020 8:05 pm

GPU temp 55 isn't that hot.

You can get a small tube of thermal paste for a few dollars.

Connect the main and secondary antenna wires to the Wifi card.

Tape, you can try scotch tape, or a hi temp tape. Do not use duct tape or even electrical tape because they get gummed up when too hot, especially duct tape.
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Re: W530 Trouble

#11 Post by MikalE » Tue Jun 30, 2020 8:21 pm

Don't discard that foil tape. It is used for thermal protection and in some cases electrical shielding. Put it back where it was when you are finished. Use a double sided Scotch Tape if you have to.
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Re: W530 Trouble

#12 Post by kfzhu1229 » Tue Jun 30, 2020 9:38 pm

thealphaoverseer wrote:
Tue Jun 30, 2020 6:10 pm
Wow! Thanks for the info! Maybe relying on a dodgy Youtube video wasn't a good idea...
In the manual, it shows 3 ports for the wireless card. Mine only has two so the white cord is not connected to anything.
Hopefully, I might be able to borrow my friend's thermal paste after the holidays and put the screws back. I also noticed the black tape was not sticky anymore so my wires are all over the place. Can I use sticky tape instead? There was also this foil tape thing near my fan - same thing happened. What does it do? My GPU averages 55 degrees when running a stress test like FurMark - is that too hot?
You can replace the black tape with any tape you have lying around.
The foil tape you wanna replace it with another piece of foil tape or stick it back in with double sided tape. That foil tape is important to make sure all of the wind from the fan gets through the aluminium fins so you can have maximal cooling. Replace it after you do the repaste though as you might also need to disassemble the fan itself to clean off any dust and dust bunnies that might be stuck within the heatsink.
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T530i 15.6" i7 16gb fp W10
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