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"ThinkPad" Yoga First Impressions

Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2014 6:18 pm
by HoSlayer210
So I finally found a store that carried the ThinkPad Yoga and after playing with it for a while I thought I'd share my initial impressions of it.

First off, the screen is absolutely beautiful, 1920x1080 resolution and IPS technology. At 12.5 inches this makes for a very crisp display and combined with the vibrant colors and great viewing angles, I feel like this is the type of screen we've been waiting for Lenovo to provide since the T60.

The keyboard felt the same as the backlit chiclet style I had on my T430s and while I do prefer the classic keyboard (T420/T520 and back), I don't necessarily mind this one as it's leaps and bounds better than other chiclet style keyboards I've used. I got used to it on the T430s, that's not to say that some people won't find it terrible, I know how opinionated we ThinkPad faithful are. I tested out the "Lift 'n Lock" feature when you transition into tablet mode and I found it to be very cool. One of the things that turned me off from the idea of the "Yoga" style notebook is the fact that you could feel the keys on the bottom in tablet mode regardless if they're disabled or not. This completely prevents that issue from occuring.

This was the first time I came in contact with the new clickpad ultranav setup, mixed feelings here. I tend to be nostalgic and love the physical buttons of my older T series pads, that being said I felt like it was well implemented and it's kind of the same situation as the keyboard, it is different but that doesn't necessarily make it terrible. They clearly put a lot of thought into this, it didn't take me very long to nail the middle button scrolling and after using it, it feels like they adaquately differentiated the 3 click areas representing the former buttons. I never use the touchpad but the fact that it's so huge didn't seem to bother me, the trackpoint functioned the same as any other ThinkPad.

Now is where things start to head downhill and (in my opinion) it's a problem with all of the new ThinkPads unfortunately. The design team at Lenovo created an incredibly sharp looking laptop, however it does not look like a ThinkPad at all. Some people might not care much but if I wanted to buy an Elitebook from HP, I would have done so. The ThinkPad brand is losing it's identity and it's sad, the least they could do is introduce a ThinkPad "classic" or "legacy" model that brings back the classic keyboard, LED status indicators, black ABS plastic case and physical ultranav buttons. We'll never see it again but a 4:3 screen would be nice too :D

Last but not least, this is where it gets downright ugly. The build quality of this notebook felt terrible. There was flex present absolutely everywhere, especially the screen. While it may be polished on the outside, the overall feel I got from it was that it will fall apart before my 9 year old T43p does.

Overall I found this to be an impressive laptop in a sea of touchscreen computers but I do not consider this a ThinkPad. Lenovo has gotten to the point where they will slap "ThinkPad" stickers and a trackpoint on anything and unfortunately it will sell like hotcakes. The only way I would consider buying one is if I was in the market for an IdeaPad as this might as well be one but includes my beloved trackpoint. Flame me if you want for this post but I believe in the idea of "if it's not broken, don't fix it" and Lenovo clearly has other plans.

Re: "ThinkPad" Yoga First Impressions

Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2014 3:45 pm
by syrahnose
any further thoughts after having lived with it for a while now?

Re: "ThinkPad" Yoga First Impressions

Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2014 12:47 am
by Saucey
Hmmmm... so a ThinkPad in name then?
Unless this will be what ThinkPads are going to be from now on.
Nice review!

Re: "ThinkPad" Yoga First Impressions

Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2014 4:21 pm
by ducky2802
HoSlayer210 wrote: Last but not least, this is where it gets downright ugly. The build quality of this notebook felt terrible. There was flex present absolutely everywhere, especially the screen. While it may be polished on the outside, the overall feel I got from it was that it will fall apart before my 9 year old T43p does.
I went to the MS store and bee-lined straight for the TP yoga they just got in. Ive been using the X series since my trusty X20/X22 and this is the first "small" TP that I felt the same way. The machine was literally a few days old and already the screen bezel was separating from the lid... unlike the X series which uses screws (though admittedly, the new ones use more clips than screws), it seemed that the screen was just made up of 2 halves glued together. The Tablet mode worked as well as I could hope a convertible should work (based on my X60/X61/X200 Tablets), but it just felt wayyyy too flexible to take manhandle around a talking presentation. Sure, the price is much cheaper than the other tablets (X tablets were like $2000 machines), but it did not feel even worthy of the $1100 price tag. Not to mention, its technically an edge series and topseller model only has 1 year warranty compared to the standard 3 years you would get with any other topseller thinkpad.

Re: "ThinkPad" Yoga First Impressions

Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2014 4:21 am
by BillMorrow
IRT warranty..
I use my American Express Platinum card when/if I buy anything with a warranty..
why..?
amex will double the warranty and I have used this freebie feature in the past and it has paid off..
its not a cheap credit card but it keeps me honest by requiring full payment every month so if a can't afford to but it I don't and sadly most new thinkpads fall into this category..

thus 1 year top seller = two years when amex is used..

edit, june 1
sorry for misleading.. AMEX adds ONE YEAR to the warranty, not double it.. my bad.. I guess this was changed at some point.. having a Philips/Norelco razor that crapped out EXACTLY at the three year mark (for the second time) I am invoking the AMEX warranty extension.. seems they need to think about it..
if this razor did not give such a great shave I would go back to braun..