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Antivirus for Windows 10 users!

#1 Post by Ruston88 » Fri May 22, 2020 10:02 am

Hello all,

I'm a newbie here. I started using Windows 10 for a few months. Now I would like to set up a new Antivirus. Which one do you recommend?

Please let me know in your reply. Thank you so much!

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Re: Antivirus for Windows 10 users!

#2 Post by RealBlackStuff » Fri May 22, 2020 10:21 am

If you stay on "proper" websites, W10 includes Windows Defender, which is usually good enough.
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Re: Antivirus for Windows 10 users!

#3 Post by BillMorrow » Fri May 22, 2020 11:20 am

Ruston88 wrote:
Fri May 22, 2020 10:02 am
Hello all,

I'm a newbie here. I started using Windows 10 for a few months. Now I would like to set up a new Antivirus. Which one do you recommend?

Please let me know in your reply. Thank you so much!
ESET ESS without doubt.. the best.. they have a free 'sample' on their web site..
i have been using it for many years..
if i had the coding skills to change my own banner i would put up a small ad for them but, alas, when i try making any changes the whole page goes wonky.. :oops:

https://www.eset.com/
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Re: Antivirus for Windows 10 users!

#4 Post by onespeedbiker » Sun May 24, 2020 12:33 pm

I use Malwarebytes Pro (paid) and Defender; if you use another anti-virus (Malwarebytes is technically not an anti-virus), Windows will disable Defender. Many use the free version of Malwarebytes, the difference being the paid version is real time protection.

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Re: Antivirus for Windows 10 users!

#5 Post by Ruston88 » Mon May 25, 2020 5:32 am

Hello guys,

Thanks a lot for your reply. I am interested in Kaspersky or Norton. Are they reliable?

Please let me know.

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Re: Antivirus for Windows 10 users!

#6 Post by skx » Thu Oct 08, 2020 4:21 pm

Ruston88 wrote:
Mon May 25, 2020 5:32 am
Hello guys,

Thanks a lot for your reply. I am interested in Kaspersky or Norton. Are they reliable?

Please let me know.
ufff, norton, past glory from the nineties :mrgreen: i would go for RealBlackStuff's advice if I would use w10 :wink: defender and common sense should keep you safe. norton is a memory hog, kaspersky is less memory eating but not sure it will justify the money. if you would pirate an antivirus you better cannot use one at all as the odds you install malware infected pirated anitivirus is quite high
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Re: Antivirus for Windows 10 users!

#7 Post by atagunov » Fri Oct 09, 2020 6:58 am

Reasonably good experience with ESET under Windows 7. Includes a web proxy which seems to do a decent job even on more "adventurous" websites. Sometimes though I'm getting a yellow triangle on my wired connection and network stops working. I have to reboot my machine. Happened on two desktop PC-s with Windows 7 and ESET. Not sure, but it could be ESET doing.

There is an opinion that antivirus can also increase your attach surface e.g. provide new opportunities for bad guys to get in. I'd use something widely adopted and up-to-date with the times. It's been about 20 years since I heard about Norton, so not advised at all. Kaspersky is live an kicking I guess, but those 20 years ago my machine became slow after installing it and I haven't given it another shot since :)
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Re: Antivirus for Windows 10 users!

#8 Post by cadillacmike68 » Mon Oct 12, 2020 1:51 am

I used to like nortons, but symantec ruined it. Winblows defender is adequate supplemented by malwarebytes, spybot search & destroy, and security task manager
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Re: Antivirus for Windows 10 users!

#9 Post by Vopu » Mon Oct 12, 2020 5:25 am

Apart from so called protection :mrgreen: , i guess it depends by whom you want your data to be harvested :roll: , bit by bit or by a complete package through backdoors by Win10 to NSA ... You have a selection here,
Choose Kaspersky for the Russians,
Sophos or Comodo for the British,
Zone Alarm for Israiles,
Panda for Spanish
Avira for Germans,
Rest for our friends across :)
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Re: Antivirus for Windows 10 users!

#10 Post by cadillacmike68 » Mon Oct 12, 2020 11:44 am

Which is one reason only one of my machines is using w10.
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Re: Antivirus for Windows 10 users!

#11 Post by Vopu » Mon Oct 12, 2020 12:11 pm

cadillacmike68 wrote:
Mon Oct 12, 2020 11:44 am
Which is one reason only one of my machines is using w10.
Couple of things i had done on a Win10 Pro machine is to use multiple layers of limitation :lol: to confuse/restrict/limit telemetry of all sorts. Namely, OOSU10,proton vpi running behind Tor browser & HTTPS everywhere installed. Hmm, also all updates disabled , win servers blocked , digged deep into registry to messup all Win settings, running multiple accounts one of which only admin with no other prg installed and everything blocked supported with paranoid levels of restriction/firewall on my router :lol: And if you are into crypto only run from a live linux distro :eek:
But as you know , no matter what you do, gates have the key holders :mrgreen: crowdfund an isp perhaps :mrgreen:

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Re: Antivirus for Windows 10 users!

#12 Post by atagunov » Tue Oct 13, 2020 6:34 am

Vopu wrote:
Mon Oct 12, 2020 12:11 pm
crowdfund an isp perhaps :mrgreen:
Well if you care that much you could perhaps use a VPN. Of course then the VPN provider knows what you're doing.. I heard Sweden isn't a bad place to use a VPN provider from due to its stricter privacy protections
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Re: Antivirus for Windows 10 users!

#13 Post by Vopu » Tue Oct 13, 2020 6:56 am

Vopu wrote:
Mon Oct 12, 2020 12:11 pm
cadillacmike68 wrote:
Mon Oct 12, 2020 11:44 am
Which is one reason only one of my machines is using w10.
Namely, OOSU10,proton vpi running behind Tor browser & HTTPS everywhere installed
, ah , typo there. Supposed to be Proton VPN...

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Re: Antivirus for Windows 10 users!

#14 Post by skx » Thu Oct 15, 2020 1:04 pm

Vopu wrote:
Mon Oct 12, 2020 12:11 pm
cadillacmike68 wrote:
Mon Oct 12, 2020 11:44 am
Which is one reason only one of my machines is using w10.
Couple of things i had done on a Win10 Pro machine is to use multiple layers of limitation :lol: to confuse/restrict/limit telemetry of all sorts. Namely, OOSU10,proton vpi running behind Tor browser & HTTPS everywhere installed. Hmm, also all updates disabled , win servers blocked , digged deep into registry to messup all Win settings, running multiple accounts one of which only admin with no other prg installed and everything blocked supported with paranoid levels of restriction/firewall on my router :lol:
quite useless attempt honestly :mrgreen: if the host is contaminated, what do you expect to achieve by running VPN, browsing over https or tor? :? if you care about this, you should move to linux/bsd. w10, if if you want to break the OS by trying to disable whatever evil part inside, it will keep exposing your privacy. w10 is broken beyond repair for privacy sensitive people.
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Re: Antivirus for Windows 10 users!

#15 Post by Vopu » Thu Oct 15, 2020 4:27 pm

I can not think of a single ISP being either phsically or virtually not tapped nowadays. If :eek: there are still honest ones left out there they are tapped not from the source but by ocean fiber hubs. And as we agree to agree all host's are in it. That leaves you to make your own preperations for self defence and try to protect your privicy as much as you can . But i completely agree that microsoft took it to a whole new level with Win10.
Yet i am afraid you are wrong about microsoft being the only OS effected and linux is immune to all this. Apart from the submarine cables that taps ALL communications, thee is internal , international and continental spying around us , which does not care which OS you use. Probably most people know about 5eyes, but not many about 1()5+3 , 2()5+3 ,nor 6 eyes, 9 eyes and 14 eyes.On top of all this and as long as we have the monopoly of ICANN held by our friends across, nothing on the net is safe to access. :eek: There is a saying that EN_ES_A has a motto:
3 things are important for us: anything, everything and everyone
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Re: Antivirus for Windows 10 users!

#16 Post by JaneKing » Mon Mar 01, 2021 12:29 pm

kaspersky is actually not bad, we have been using it for 5 years
it all depends on the programs you use, for example, we have employee monitoring software installed, which also includes something like a built-in antivirus, so there is no need for additional antivirus, plus Windows defender also works well
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#17 Post by UkioNotara » Tue Mar 09, 2021 1:03 pm

I think you do not need an antivirus if you do not open questionable links.

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#18 Post by BillMorrow » Tue Mar 09, 2021 8:01 pm

UkioNotara wrote:
Tue Mar 09, 2021 1:03 pm
I think you do not need an antivirus if you do not open questionable links.
maybe so, maybe no..
IMO you need AV for web pages which can generate pop ups which can do nasty things..
i use ESET smart security, which only gets better on a daily or hourly basis as new threats are identified..

FOR INSTANCE: i give you the user above, UkioNotara, who is now deactivated, as a spammer, since his name is in a spammer blacklist and his stated location is questionable and or incomplete..
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Re: Antivirus for Windows 10 users!

#19 Post by keithsketchley » Sun Sep 26, 2021 8:59 pm

You should find anti-malware software that has a firewall in both directions.

I use ESET Suite, reputed to perform faster, UI poor and company not helpful. Has heuristics option which I like. Warns me of problems.

Fired Kaspersky years ago for being surly Russian jerks.

I'd consider McAfee.

Wikipedia has a huge table of anti-malware software, you need a 50" monitor to use it. Maybe could if you write down column headings.

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#20 Post by madicetea » Mon Oct 11, 2021 9:42 pm

cadillacmike68 wrote:
Mon Oct 12, 2020 1:51 am
I used to like nortons, but symantec ruined it. Winblows defender is adequate supplemented by malwarebytes, spybot search & destroy, and security task manager
I'm increasingly disillusioned with Norton, despite being the sysadmin of the [extended] family and putting it on no less than probably 15 machines (including phones, to be fair) in the last 8 years.

The memory hog thing is real, but if you run more than 8GB of RAM in your machine and aren't maxxing the programs you have open, you won't really notice it until you look at the task manager / system resource usage logs.

Windows Defender is what it is, it's not a spyware or a virus itself, so I usually leave it running now.
On my younger brother's computer, I've started him with a test case with Malwarebytes, as they are a local company and I know I can get their support on the phone if I ever needed to. Generally, I think the market opinion from their products is good, so when my Norton licenses run out in late 2022, it's increasingly likely this will be the company I use for antivirus / antimalware going forwards. It also happens to be the only one I'm really considering that you can find licenses sold for in retail brick and mortar stores. (or is that concept all but dead already >_< ?)

I'm in the mood to consider purchasing a few licenses of CrowdStrike from CDW or SHI, but only because I've used both distributors in my work so far, and I'm starting to learn how CrowdStrike Falcon works, so I can set it up to my own custom liking somewhat effectively (and it has its own detections pre-built, ofc and gets heuristic updates quite regularly like any antimalware solution should).

A previous company also managed to get licenses of Sentinel One and we had that on our work machines. I got to see the admin interface -- at least on Mac, it looks beautiful, but I don't think I would want to ask for the quote for getting it, since I've heard that unlike CrowdStrike (who will allow suppliers to sell you as little as one license) -- SentinelOne wants people to buy many tens to hundreds of licenses at minimum. So I hear anyways, would love to give them a try with their other OS clients if anyone can find a supplier who says its OK to just purchase give or take 5 license seats from them.

Another previous company used ESET Japan's products. Was an OK tool, but I felt it was overpriced for what it could offer. Good offering, just bad cost-performance. But I'm a power user, so I'm going to obviously biased here! (If you are not a power user, ESET may be a great retail alternative, available widely around the world!)
BillMorrow wrote:
Tue Mar 09, 2021 8:01 pm
UkioNotara wrote:
Tue Mar 09, 2021 1:03 pm
I think you do not need an antivirus if you do not open questionable links.
maybe so, maybe no.. (...)
i use ESET smart security, which only gets better on a daily or hourly basis as new threats are identified..

FOR INSTANCE: i give you the user above, UkioNotara, who is now deactivated, as a spammer, since his name is in a spammer blacklist and his stated location is questionable and or incomplete..
OK, Bill, I have to hand it to you here. This was a funny and great use for ESET, just perhaps not something in the average non-power user's mind as a use case for antimalware.
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Re: Antivirus for Windows 10 users!

#21 Post by tom lightbody » Tue Oct 12, 2021 11:36 am

Avast--has been a good partner for me since the old days. And of course the
ultimate anti-malware: boot some version of unix.
the way up and the way down are the same (heraclitus)

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#22 Post by BillMorrow » Mon Oct 18, 2021 11:13 pm

i use ESET Smart Security Premium..
IMO the best available..
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