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W10: FIX for Lenovo Power Manager

#1 Post by shawross » Sat Aug 13, 2016 7:34 am

Lenovo Power Manager doesn't work because the Setup file is blocked.
The blocking mechanism is a so-called hard block and is applied by the Program Compatibility Assistant.
The following workaround fixed it for me:
Install the Windows 10 Assessment and Deployment Kit ( adksetup for Windows 10) and download from Microsoft. (when you install Windows ADK, choose only Application Compatibility Toolki (ACT))
From the start menu, run the Compatibility Administrator, either the 32-bit or the 64-bit version depending on your application
In the left-hand pane under System Database (32/64-bit) -> Applications, look for the corresponding application ( Lenovo Power Manager)
In the large pane on the right-hand side there should be an entry AppHelp - HARDBLOCK
Right-click the exe-file with the hard block and select Disable entry
Now you should be good to go. In my case I additionally had to set the program to run in Windows 7 compatibility mode.

After the Redstone Upgrade I had to reapply the "Fix" so keep this in mind for the future as MS will apply upgrades annually.

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Re: W10: FIX for Lenovo Power Manager

#2 Post by WVZR1 » Sat Aug 13, 2016 7:57 am

And how much HDD space does the ADK use on your machine?
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Re: W10: FIX for Lenovo Power Manager

#3 Post by MikalE » Sat Aug 13, 2016 11:30 am

6.6 GB if you install only what is checked off in the selection box by default. There is a selection that bumps it up to over 7 GB. And I did not check to see how big the SLQ database was.
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Re: W10: FIX for Lenovo Power Manager

#4 Post by shawross » Sat Aug 13, 2016 7:58 pm

WVZR1 wrote:And how much HDD space does the ADK use on your machine?

When you download the ADK setup make sure you only install the "Compatibility Toolkit" which I think is no more than about 25 Mb download.

It won't bloat your system and my C:/ drive Windows 10 install is less than 15 Gb. I run a lean system and I only use a 65 Gb SSD.

I only use Lenovo Power Manager because of the battery threshold charging.

Remember on major system upgrades you will probably need to re-invoke the hardware block but the Compatibility Toolkit should still be installed.

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Re: W10: FIX for Lenovo Power Manager

#5 Post by cchsiao » Mon Sep 05, 2016 5:02 pm

I don't know if this is obvious but I found that the lenovo setting software can be used to enable the charge threshold. See http://shop.lenovo.com/us/en/accessorie ... /settings/ for more information.

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Re: W10: FIX for Lenovo Power Manager

#6 Post by shawross » Mon Sep 05, 2016 6:38 pm

Older Lenovo / IBM systems aren't supported for use with Windows 10.

Many Forum members don't have much passion for the latest hardware offerings or Windows 10 as a matter of fact.

Newer systems you would realistically expect will be supported. YMMV
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Re: W10: FIX for Lenovo Power Manager

#7 Post by Cigarguy » Mon Sep 05, 2016 7:59 pm

Lenovo Power Manager is one of the few useful software that was part of the Thinkpad ecosystem. I'd wish Lenovo would continue to support it past Win 7. Instead they gave use more crap and bloatware.

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Re: W10: FIX for Lenovo Power Manager

#8 Post by TPFanatic » Mon Sep 05, 2016 10:51 pm

Unfortunately to get Settings you need a Microsoft account.

There is a way to use the Microsoft account to install a Microsoft Store App, without linking the Microsoft account with your user. (STUPID IDEA, MICROSOFT!)

When you install Lenovo Settings it will try to make you install a newly released System Interface Driver, part of the Hotkey Integration Features, but the new SI Driver will mess up your Fn hotkeys and Mute buttons if you are using an older Thinkpad! If you are using Windows 10 on an older Thinkpad (T500 generation and older) you need to install Hotkey Integration Features Driver 3.81 (including its included, older and working, System Interface Driver package) for your hotkeys to remain working, but this older version still seems to work with Lenovo Settings, at least on the R500 I tested Lenovo Settings with.

Lenovo Settings may also prompt you to download a bunch of other hidden Lenovo updates that can't be found from anywhere else. I've let it download these and they haven't seemed to cause any problems, and may be necessary to get the custom battery threshold, as well as the battery gauge!
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New Lenovo Settings Battery Gauge

#9 Post by TPFanatic » Fri Sep 30, 2016 2:01 pm

There is a new update package to Lenovo Settings n1lsd29w.exe ( https://download.lenovo.com/pccbbs/mobiles/n1lsd29w.exe ) that includes an updated Battery Gauge. It is better looking and is finally as functional as the Windows battery gauge, in that it shows mouseover info. Clicking on it brings up an options window.

Windows advanced Power Options is all we have to set things like maximum processor speed and idle timers. It's not as easy to work with as Power Manager, but it works. Unfortunately you can only get 2 plans, Balanced and the last used one, to show up in either Windows' or Lenovos' battery gauges.

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Re: W10: FIX for Lenovo Power Manager

#10 Post by TPFanatic » Wed Oct 26, 2016 12:05 am

Just reporting that the new Lenovo Battery gauge disappeared off my R500 running Windows 10. The setting to toggle it from Settings is gone too.

Installing the latest version of the old battery gauge brought the old version back which has all the settings except for the camera, but it lacks mouseover info:
https://download.lenovo.com/consumer/mo ... 10ww30.exe

I will attempt to reinstall the n1lsd29w.exe dependency package and see if that fixes things.

It'd be nice if Lenovo had a darn thing to say about this but they're quiet and they suck. The page for downloading their battery gauge is gone but the download links still work. The hell. Guess how I'm finding the latest versions of everything.
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Re: W10: FIX for Lenovo Power Manager

#11 Post by cros » Wed Oct 26, 2016 8:30 am

See here: http://forum.thinkpads.com/viewtopic.ph ... 22#p781543

The old Windows 7 power manager works fine on Windows 10, even for setting charge thresholds.

You just have to rename/copy one extracted setup file, and also periodically re-install as every annual/major update to Windows 10 re-runs the whitelist computability assessment and force-uninstalls anything deemed obsolete.

The same applies to the "Dolby" EQ/compressor that Lenovo distributed for Windows 7; it still works great in reality.

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Lenovo Settings causing high disk usage ?

#12 Post by TPFanatic » Sun Nov 13, 2016 1:43 pm

A strange thing happeed to me today. My win10 testbed has been experiencing a lot of disk related slowdowns after any power change, with symptoms being 100% reported disk activity, poor desktop and start menu responsiveness, and an always on HDD light after a suspend resume, power on, or reboot.

Today I decided to see what would happen if I "reset" the Lenovo Settings app. The system immediately sped up. Now it still experiences high disk usage after a reboot or cold start but I'm no longer getting random slowdowns.

So... Settings could be a culprit to some of the issues I'm having.
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Re: W10: FIX for Lenovo Power Manager

#13 Post by w0qj » Sun Apr 02, 2017 12:07 pm

And here is the Readme.txt file if anyone is interested:
http://download.lenovo.com/consumer/mob ... 10ww30.txt
http://download.lenovo.com/consumer/mob ... 10ww30.exe
TPFanatic wrote:Just reporting that the new Lenovo Battery gauge disappeared off my R500 running Windows 10. The setting to toggle it from Settings is gone too.

Installing the latest version of the old battery gauge brought the old version back which has all the settings except for the camera, but it lacks mouseover info:
http://download.lenovo.com/consumer/mob ... 10ww30.exe

I will attempt to reinstall the n1lsd29w.exe dependency package and see if that fixes things.

It'd be nice if Lenovo had a darn thing to say about this but they're quiet and they suck. The page for downloading their battery gauge is gone but the download links still work. The hell. Guess how I'm finding the latest versions of everything.
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Re: W10: FIX for Lenovo Power Manager

#14 Post by nkn1506 » Tue May 02, 2017 5:41 am

I use x220. Upgrade window 10 creator 1703. Power Manager does not working. Lenovo setting is too. Help me please

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Re: W10: FIX for Lenovo Power Manager

#15 Post by w0qj » Thu Jun 08, 2017 3:55 am

Lenovo Settings (for Windows 10)
http://www3.lenovo.com/se/sv/accessorie ... s/settings

Lenovo now has a new utility in Win10 Windows Store for free that allows you to control threshold settings for the charging your battery.
eg: charge when below 45%, stop charging at 55%.

Or change your charging settings to whatever you like.

It has the same functionality as the Power Manager from Windows 7.

In short, you do not need to force Lenovo Power Manager onto Windows 10 anymore.
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Re: W10: FIX for Lenovo Power Manager

#16 Post by hellosailor » Mon Jul 31, 2017 9:17 pm

"404 Sidan hittades inte"

Sounds like that utility (what is that page, Swedish?) was pulled.

I don't find any trace that any Lenono Power Manager works in Win10, and works without collateral damage.

Anyone with a current solution on this? The Power Manager that they have posted on the US support pages for Win10, simply does not install. It is blocked out.
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Re: W10: FIX for Lenovo Power Manager

#17 Post by hellosailor » Thu Nov 30, 2017 4:10 pm

Has Lenovo come up with a fix to restore the lid closure/sleep options?

I've noticed that W10 (upgraded or clean) will put the computer to sleep when the lid is closed, with no option to change that. And, that sometimes when the computer has been sleeping, it automatically starts to wake when the lid is open--before anything is pressed.

I'd also swear that when it is sleeping, it isn't really sleeping, because sometimes I'll find things like new mail that wasn't there when I put it to sleep. Although I *might* be mistaken about that, little things like that, and the lack of a real sleep option in the W10-1703 clean install make me wonder what games who is playing.
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Re: W10: FIX for Lenovo Power Manager

#18 Post by dr_st » Thu Nov 30, 2017 4:28 pm

hellosailor wrote:
Thu Nov 30, 2017 4:10 pm
I've noticed that W10 (upgraded or clean) will put the computer to sleep when the lid is closed, with no option to change that.
Not true.
hellosailor wrote:
Thu Nov 30, 2017 4:10 pm
And, that sometimes when the computer has been sleeping, it automatically starts to wake when the lid is open--before anything is pressed.
Yes, this bug (wake up on lid open even if not set to sleep on lid close) exists, but has nothing to do with Win10. I've witnessed it on both Sandy Bridge (*20) and Ivy Bridge (*30) series, with Win7 and Win8.1 as well.
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Re: W10: FIX for Lenovo Power Manager

#19 Post by TPFanatic » Thu Nov 30, 2017 6:08 pm

Sometimes my T500 would wake up from sleep for no reason (Windows 7) until I disabled "Allow Wake Timers" in Power Manager, I suspect it may be related to various update programs waking up the computer. Looking in Task Scheduler reveals many evil tasks.
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Re: W10: FIX for Lenovo Power Manager

#20 Post by hellosailor » Thu Nov 30, 2017 7:08 pm

Yeah, after I found that "new" place to go, I took out the big flamethrower and just nuked 'em all. Which seems to have curved the "Weren't you asleep when I was last night?" issue, but still seems to leave the system with odd things like emails that sure weren't there when I shut it down.

Between puzzles like this and lithium batteries...I'm ready to put the machine in a cast iron pot, with the cover on it, to make sure nothing gets in or out when I'm not watching it.

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Re: W10: FIX for Lenovo Power Manager

#21 Post by dr_st » Thu Nov 30, 2017 11:48 pm

hellosailor wrote:
Thu Nov 30, 2017 7:08 pm
still seems to leave the system with odd things like emails that sure weren't there when I shut it down.
Do you make sure to wake up your system with the hardware wireless switch disabled and disconnected from Ethernet as well?

Because it is not inconceivable that the mail client can pull new email in the background fast, while you are logging on.

And most certainly does not seem like such an important puzzle to solve...
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Re: W10: FIX for Lenovo Power Manager

#22 Post by hellosailor » Fri Dec 01, 2017 3:15 pm

Not an important puzzle...I can see you haven't read Clifford Stoll's book, The Cuckoo's Egg. He found a real tiny discrepancy in computer time-sharing billing, which led to one of the (then) largest espionage investigations. Given that my email client is accessing multiple accounts and routinely takes longer to look into all of them than the time my (SSD based) laptop takes to "wake"...

Interesting concept but I can't consider it possible.

I also mistrust the email client (Outlook 2013) because it consistently mis-states the number of emails it is sending, and MS has no comment on that bug. And it is a bug, there's no ghoul infesting the system.

No, what is important about the "minor" problem, as with what Stoll found, is that if there is SOMETHING wrong in a computer system, you really need to find out exactly what and why, because it may be the tip of a whole other iceberg.

The system is set up so that when it is sleeping, EVERYTHING is supposed to be powered off, except the fingerprint sensor and the power button, to wake it. Before Win10, that worked. I suspect Win10 modified things so it can "phone home" whenever it wants to, even though the computer user may very intentionally want the machine to be in extreme power-saving mode.
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Re: W10: FIX for Lenovo Power Manager

#23 Post by pidjones » Sun Dec 03, 2017 5:35 pm

If you are so paranoid, I'd suggest a) quit using a computer and revert to "reliable" snail mail, or b) get a computer DESIGNED for Windows 10.

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Re: W10: FIX for Lenovo Power Manager

#24 Post by hellosailor » Sun Dec 03, 2017 6:37 pm

Well, pid, last I'd seen was some five years ago. And at that point industry estimates were that 25% of all personal computers (office and home alike) were running malware, typically sending spam or doing other tasks for which the owners weren't being paid and might not have been too happy about.

So you can call it paranoid, but a lot of industry professionals would say the same thing: If you don't know what your computer is doing, you are probably part of (or going to be part of) the malware problems for the rest of us.

And Win10, sadly, was quickly proven not to change that any.

I've seen malware attacks on modem pool IT addresses. And during the first 60 seconds in new users joining university networks. And all sorts of clever stuff over the years. Including stuff that may lay dormant for six months before it goes active, making fairly certain that every backup tape has been infected before it is found, too.
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Re: W10: FIX for Lenovo Power Manager

#25 Post by ajkula66 » Sun Dec 03, 2017 8:16 pm

hellosailor wrote:
Fri Dec 01, 2017 3:15 pm
I suspect Win10 modified things so it can "phone home" whenever it wants to, even though the computer user may very intentionally want the machine to be in extreme power-saving mode.
I would not be surprised if this were the case. At all.

With that being said, I am somewhat surprised that someone who appears to be as concerned as you are about malware in the widest sense of the word would be running W10 to begin with. Possibly *any* MS product for that fact.
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Re: W10: FIX for Lenovo Power Manager

#26 Post by hellosailor » Mon Dec 04, 2017 1:31 pm

George-
I run MS OSes (reluctantly including Win10 since everything else is already tombstoned) because in today's world, if you go into someone's office and work on their computers, those computers stand about a 95% chance of running a MS OS. The UNIX systems are mainly secured in server closets, or in art departments where they wear an Apple iOS shell. LINUX boxes? Yeah, not found in the corporate world so much.
And, if you keep up with the CERT reports and other federal or institutional computer security reports, the bottom line is that overall MS OSes are no more or less vulnerable than anything else out there. They are a popular attack target, but Apple gets hit just as badly and just as often. Apple just eats their own dead, rarely admitting anything in public much less discussing it. UNIX systems also get hit, but those users (as in hospital databases) are not really in the loop, they've got a corporate IT department who deal with it.

Bottom line? My Palm is secure. My slide rules are secure. But I'm still looking for a good abacus that doesn't have any Chinese-sourced parts in it. You know, just in case there's a back door in one of those beads.(G)

Equifax, the Department of Defense, the State Department, major hospitals and institutions, two of the world's largest ocean cargo companies....lots of bigger folks have been hacked this year alone. And it isn't that the hacks have been so clever, but usually from someone doing something unthinking, like clicking on the wrong clickbait, or picking up a USB drive they find in the parking lot.

I'd rather not be that guy. Then again, I've also passed on a fortune in lottery winnings and I've turned down DOZENS of calls from :Microsoft Support: urgently calling me about a virus on my computers. I suppose I really should set up an airgapped honeytrap for them instead...
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