Thinkpadders, do NOT Rejoice, WEEP and/or DESPAIR!

[Thinkpad4by3]

I think this should be called the Thinkpad Retromod.

If you can call a 70 corvette with a new fancy engine a 70 corvette, because it is still a sports car that does what its intended purpose.

Same with thinkpads. Without a keyboard and square lcd, is it still a Thinkpad?

Really, if it gets work done efficently, is super rugged, why cant it bear the Thinkpad Name?

Thinkpads were designed to get work done no matter what happened. If it can do that, its a thinkpad. As the new(xx40 and later) are fragile movie machines. Therefore they arent thinkpads.

[micrex22]

I think this should be called the Thinkpad Retromod.

If you can call a 70 corvette with a new fancy engine a 70 corvette, because it is still a sports car that does what its intended purpose.

Same with thinkpads. Without a keyboard and square lcd, is it still a Thinkpad?

Really, if it gets work done efficently, is super rugged, why cant it bear the Thinkpad Name?

Thinkpads were designed to get work done no matter what happened. If it can do that, its a thinkpad. As the new(xx40 and later) are fragile movie machines. Therefore they arent thinkpads.

Well you've basically just summarized the differences between an IBM ThinkPad and a Lenovo ThinkPad.

[evening_hunger]

Yet another Chinese company disproving the popular mythos about how 3:2 screens are hard to get, expensive, and would bring the price of the device up. Look here: https://www.notebookcheck.net/Cube-Thin ... 312.0.html
That's a budged laptop with such a screen. Sure, this particular one has [censored] RGB coverage, but not that worse than most Thinkpads...

[Ibthink]

They are apparently using C-grade quality screen of the Microsoft Surface Book production, if you look at brightness distribution and sRGB values. In other words, they are using the trash of the production that Microsoft doesn´t want.

This doesn´t matter. HP, Dell, Lenovo, if one of those manufacturers releases a 3:2 Notebook, that would be a big change.

[Puppy]

That's a budged laptop with such a screen. Sure, this particular one has [censored] RGB coverage, but not that worse than most Thinkpads...

There are more of them, check Chuwi company and many others. These might a C-grade but still better than most of Lenovo ones And there is no display vendor lottery.

Lenovo ThinkPad T470 (Core i5, Full-HD): 61.44% sRGB, Brightness Distribution: 88 %, Contrast: 1020:1
Cube Thinker Laptop (Core m3-7Y30, 8 GB, 256 GB): 70% sRGB, Brightness Distribution: 81 %, Contrast: 1723:1

And a 230 Euro Chuwi Hi12 Tablet Review: 95.2% sRGB, Brightness Distribution: 89 %, Contrast: 1145:1. Better in every parameter compared to T470.

[TPFanatic]

What about the quality control? Does Brightness Distribution mean how even the brightness is across the panel?

[Thinkpad4by3]

What about the quality control? Does Brightness Distribution mean how even the brightness is across the panel?

Probably just an average of center brightness vs edge brightness.

[Ibthink]

What about the quality control? Does Brightness Distribution mean how even the brightness is across the panel?

Yes. On the tested "Cube Thinker" laptop, the lower right corner is 100 nits darker than the upper left.

[Thinkpad4by3]

Unless its like the ToughBook's 1000nits, thats a BIG difference.

[Puppy]

Yes. On the tested "Cube Thinker" laptop, the lower right corner is 100 nits darker than the upper left.

Reminds me the famous T440 LG vs AUO war where the uniformity was also terrible. But the 230 Euro Chuwi has better screen than T470 In other words no need to bash cheap chinese laptops since they provide screen we want for a long time.

[Ibthink]

But the 230 Euro Chuwi has better screen than T470

A Tablet, which you can´t compare with a Notebook anyway. Tablets with bad screens are rare. Notebooks, especially Business Notebooks, not so rare.

In other words no need to bash cheap chinese laptops since they provide screen we want for a long time.

Well, maybe the second-rate version of the wanted screen. And its terrible in every other way. If you just want a good screen, you could also buy a Macbook Pro. Terrible keyboards, but good screens.

[Thinkpad4by3]

Only If you get the retina version. Otherwise, you have an coke can filled with crap screen and keyboard.

[TPFanatic]

At least Macbook's are 16:10. What's it take to put a Retina in my T500? Retina to HDMI adapters exist. The gloss would kill me though, since I like using my laptop outside.

[thomase13]

I don't think you understand how good Retina monitors are.
You'd think the gloss would be a problem, but my sister uses her MacBook Pro in direct sunlight and the backlight is so bright that it's perfectly readable!

Really incredible! (especially compared to my weak ThinkPad screen that's only viewable in dim indoor lighting)

[evening_hunger]

I've been fantasizing about transplanting MB 13'' screen into x230 for some time, until nitrocaster cured me of it by explaining that mac's backlight is hardly removable, in other words one would need to transplant entire lid. Still, fruit screen in a Thinkpad would constitute a Holy Grail of Laptops. So far, AFAIK noone's done it.

[Thinkpad4by3]

I've been fantasizing about transplanting MB 13'' screen into x230 for some time, until nitrocaster cured me of it by explaining that mac's backlight is hardly removable, in other words one would need to transplant entire lid. Still, fruit screen in a Thinkpad would constitute a Holy Grail of Laptops. So far, AFAIK noone's done it.

BoeHydis Makes an eDP 4K IPS LCD @12.5". Now that would be something to witness.

[jcvjcvjcvjcv]

Lenovo would probably want multiple suppliers...

Except for CPU's of course; there they fine with only one supplier...

[Thinkpad4by3]

Lenovo would probably want multiple suppliers...

Except for CPU's of course; there they fine with only one supplier...

Then why do they have 2 suppliers for the E-series?

[Puppy]

Looks like some people already know the specs
https://www.reddit.com/r/thinkpad/comme ... be_buying/

[Thinkpad4by3]

Looks like some people already know the specs
https://www.reddit.com/r/thinkpad/comme ... be_buying/

If its 16:9, Im going to ship David Hill a Panasonic Toughbook with a Thinkpad Label. Even though it has an XGA LCD that ajkula66 despises, its still closer to a Thinkpad than a 'real' Thinkpad.

[dr_st]

IMHO, just IMHO, the obsession over aspect ratio (Not 16:9!!! Please Oh God not 16:9!!! Anything but 16:9!!!) in this thread has gone beyond lunacy.

[Thinkpad4by3]

IMHO, just IMHO, the obsession over aspect ratio (Not 16:9!!! Please Oh God not 16:9!!! Anything but 16:9!!!) in this thread has gone beyond lunacy.

1: Im Thinkpad4by3, so obviously Im obsessed with aspect ratio

2: Im using a 11.6" 16:9 screen. With my 17" 4:3 monitor with the same amount of pixels and I can get 5x more productive.
If thats not proof I dont know what is.

3: Did you expect anything different from a group of Thinkpadders wanting a productive computer? What would you say if Lenovo made a total s**t version of the trackpoint. Wouldnt you go crazy(unless you use touchpads then you wouldn't care


No harsh feeling meant to you, just saying.

[Summilux]

Looks like some people already know the specs
https://www.reddit.com/r/thinkpad/comme ... be_buying/

It would be cool but I already own actual old-school Thinkpads. I use them for a variety of reasons, the Retro doesn't seem to have many of those things. I wanted 4:3, I wanted a thinklight, I wanted a medium travel distance connected chiclet board and I wanted a thicker, more durable design.
The bit of the Retro ive seen looks like any other ultrabook.
Ill continue to use my T42, waiting on a T44 modern mobo mod now.

Oh boy tell me he saw the wrong prototype...

[Ibthink]

I think he just saw the picture that David Hill posted.

[TPFanatic]

Either that picture or the concept from the Time Machine blog.

[jdrou]

IMHO, just IMHO, the obsession over aspect ratio (Not 16:9!!! Please Oh God not 16:9!!! Anything but 16:9!!!) in this thread has gone beyond lunacy.

Personally I don't care much about ratio, just vertical pixels. Anything less than 1000 feels cramped. 1280x1024, 1400x1050, 1680x1050, 1920x1080 are all OK with me for 12" screens.

[ajkula66]

Personally I don't care much about ratio, just vertical pixels. Anything less than 1000 feels cramped. 1280x1024, 1400x1050, 1680x1050, 1920x1080 are all OK with me for 12" screens.

Anything less than 1000 is absolutely worthless for *my* needs, not just cramped and I would *really* like 1200, d a m n the torpedoes. TBT, I don't believe that I could handle 1920x1200 or 1920x1080 on a 12" for an extended period of time.

[Thinkpad4by3]

Personally I don't care much about ratio, just vertical pixels. Anything less than 1000 feels cramped. 1280x1024, 1400x1050, 1680x1050, 1920x1080 are all OK with me for 12" screens.

Anything less than 1000 is absolutely worthless for *my* needs, not just cramped and I would *really* like 1200, d a m n the torpedoes. TBT, I don't believe that I could handle 1920x1200 or 1920x1080 on a 12" for an extended period of time.

I feel that that 1920x1200 is a very good resolution for me. Its very good for photo-editing where a nice 4:3 image sits in the middle with all my controls around it. No wasted space what so ever.

[TPFanatic]

I enjoy WUXGA too but on my T500. I've never seen a higher DPI than 147 DPI except some 4K Ideapad at Best Buy so I don't know if I would be comfy with 12" WUXGA.

[SaskFellow]

Considering the availability of 3:2 screens... I'm really really hoping this thing gets a 3:2 IPS 1920x1280 display at the minimum. Give me a socket for the CPU, and at least 2 DIMM slots, with a bay for battery/hdd(SSD)/optical drive... Yum!

Will have to wait and see... My trust in Lenovo isn't so hot. They've really done a lot of damage to the ThinkPad brand.