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RetroThinkPad survey #2 of 4 **First try, aborted**
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Re: RetroThinkPad survey #2 of ??
Excellent, they asked about screens this time. They specifically stated that 3:2 would be a cost challenge, so in the interests of "practicality" I voted 16:10. Between the two (3:2 and 16:10) I really have a slight preference towards 3:2, but since they specifically called out the difficulty/expense of acquiring such a panel I voted 16:10. 16:9 is just... No. on all levels.
I suspect they may ask for more input on screens the next time around. They didn't even mention IPS or AFFS...
I suspect they may ask for more input on screens the next time around. They didn't even mention IPS or AFFS...
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Re: RetroThinkPad survey #2 of ??
Not so: they had 4:3 cost/production problems, not with 3:2.
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Re: RetroThinkPad survey #2 of ??
Apparently my eyes have failed me for misreading that. Oh well...
16:10 or 3:2, I'd be happy with either as long as we get something with good resolution and viewing angles. ... As long as it's not 16:9.
16:10 or 3:2, I'd be happy with either as long as we get something with good resolution and viewing angles. ... As long as it's not 16:9.
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Re: RetroThinkPad survey #2 of ??
Done.
Voted for 4:3. Not that it's going to happen, but nevertheless...let them know that the dinosaurs that require vertical space for actual work are not extinct yet.
Voted for 4:3. Not that it's going to happen, but nevertheless...let them know that the dinosaurs that require vertical space for actual work are not extinct yet.
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Re: RetroThinkPad survey #2 of ??
I voted for 3:2.theterminator93 wrote:Apparently my eyes have failed me for misreading that. Oh well...
16:10 or 3:2, I'd be happy with either as long as we get something with good resolution and viewing angles. ... As long as it's not 16:9.
I wish they'd separated out the matte vs. glossy and touchscreen or not into separate issues.
If it came down to it, I'd rather have a matte screen over a glossy. That is non-negotiable. But while I like touchscreens, if it'll detract from other aspects, I can do without.
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Re: RetroThinkPad survey #2 of ??
Exactly. The one problem I had with that survey is that often two or more different binary choices were grouped in a single selection, and it's impossible for me to accurately convey my feelings, if I have a strong preference for one of the choices, but no preference for the other.Nigellus wrote:I wish they'd separated out the matte vs. glossy and touchscreen or not into separate issues.
Unlike in the first survey, there also wasn't sufficient room for custom user input.
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Re: RetroThinkPad survey #2 of ??
The survey link is not working, and the lenovo blog site makes no mention of it...
Re: RetroThinkPad survey #2 of ??
Yep. They must have pulled it down for whatever reason...maybe too many users asking for 4:3 aspect ratio...Bibin wrote:The survey link is not working, and the lenovo blog site makes no mention of it...
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Re: RetroThinkPad survey #2 of ??
Because of the many negative reactions, they may have temporarily disabled it, to make better selections (at least I hope so...)
EDIT: George was faster (I only type with 2 fingers, even after all these years as a programmer... )
EDIT: George was faster (I only type with 2 fingers, even after all these years as a programmer... )
Re: RetroThinkPad survey #2 of ??
Maybe its because the survey isn´t quite finished yet, as it will be released on Friday, combined with a new blog post?
Just be a little more patient...it will be out the day after tomorrow....
Just be a little more patient...it will be out the day after tomorrow....
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Re: RetroThinkPad survey #2 of ??
Why on Earth have they allowed it to go "live" in the first place then?Ibthink wrote:Maybe its because the survey isn´t quite finished yet, as it will be released on Friday, combined with a new blog post?
Oh some of us here have been patient for years now so a couple of days isn't likely to change much of anything...an interesting "glitch" nevertheless...Just be a little more patient...it will be out the day after tomorrow....
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Re: RetroThinkPad survey #2 of ??
Maybe its because its for some internal testing and feedback?Why on Earth have they allowed it to go "live" in the first place then?
You could also ask why Lenovo regularly uploads pictures of new ThinkPads weeks before launch to their servers open for all...
This link was not published by Lenovo.
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Re: RetroThinkPad survey #2 of ??
Huh? And then "internal" suddenly went external?Ibthink wrote: Maybe its because its for some internal testing and feedback?
I haven't given it a thought and doubt that I ever will, but can see no connection between the two...You could also ask why Lenovo regularly uploads pictures of new ThinkPads weeks before launch to their servers open for all...
Are you implying that someone has hacked into their Intranet, found the link in question and then published it on the page controlled by Lenovo?This link was not published by Lenovo.
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Re: RetroThinkPad survey #2 of ??
Thats not at all what I am saying. I am saying that it was online because of sloppiness
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Re: RetroThinkPad survey #2 of ??
Well I voted for 4:3 as well (15" 1600x1200) as I've been using this A31p for several years and it works for me better than the T520 1920x1080 also on my desk at the moment. By my definition a "retro" Thinkpad should be something with a 15" UXGA, at minimum.
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Re: RetroThinkPad survey #2 of ??
Seeing you guys' comments in this thread, it was indeed probably for the better that they pulled this 2nd survey.RealBlackStuff wrote:Because of the many negative reactions, they may have temporarily disabled it, to make better selections (at least I hope so...)
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Re: RetroThinkPad survey #2 of ?? **First try, aborted**
I don't think we were mean. Most of the criticisms seemed constructive to me.
I am cautiously optimistic that they are doing this in the first place.
You can't get initiatives like this through the corporate bureaucracy unless the corporation recognizes a market incentive to do it.
I'm trying not to get too excited, but if they give me a ThinkPad even close to what I want, I will buy it (so long as they get the keyboard right).
I am cautiously optimistic that they are doing this in the first place.
You can't get initiatives like this through the corporate bureaucracy unless the corporation recognizes a market incentive to do it.
I'm trying not to get too excited, but if they give me a ThinkPad even close to what I want, I will buy it (so long as they get the keyboard right).
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Re: RetroThinkPad survey #2 of ??
Why? Maybe something along the quote from an old movie...Summilux wrote:
Seeing you guys' comments in this thread, it was indeed probably for the better that they pulled this 2nd survey.
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Re: RetroThinkPad survey #2 of ?? **First try, aborted**
Probably the link was found by taking the previous one, and changing the 1 to a 2. They may put it back once it is officially announced. Shame on them for not being careful and putting the page up early
Side note: Why is the posting page huge, with everything nearly doubled in size? Is it optimized for the legally blind now?
Side note: Why is the posting page huge, with everything nearly doubled in size? Is it optimized for the legally blind now?
Re: RetroThinkPad survey #2 of ?? **First try, aborted**
Nigellus wrote:I don't think we were mean. Most of the criticisms seemed constructive to me.
Huh? No no, there's a misunderstanding.ajkula66 wrote: Why? Maybe something along the quote from an old movie...
"Truth? You can't handle the truth!"
I meant to say that from reading the comments, it seems like that 2nd survey was half-arsed, therefore it's for the best that it was withdrawn since its design wasn't so helpful.
Re: RetroThinkPad survey #2 of ?? **First try, aborted**
I wasn't referring to you - as in Summilux - not being able to handle the truth, but to Lenovo themselves.. .
Hope all is clear now.
Hope all is clear now.
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Re: RetroThinkPad survey #2 of ?? **First try, aborted**
Nope, it's a Forum-software glitch, that's taking longer than expected to fix.Bibin wrote:Side note: Why is the posting page huge, with everything nearly doubled in size? Is it optimized for the legally blind now?
One of these days...
Re: RetroThinkPad survey #2 of ?? **First try, aborted**
Miscomprehensions have been dissipatedajkula66 wrote:I wasn't referring to you - as in Summilux - not being able to handle the truth, but to Lenovo themselves.. .
Hope all is clear now.
I was wondering as well... and double checked my browser's zoom mode at first.RealBlackStuff wrote: Nope, it's a Forum-software glitch, that's taking longer than expected to fix.
One of these days...
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