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So Who Actually Ordered?

#1 Post by jdk » Sat Oct 07, 2017 3:16 pm

Has anybody here actually ordered the T25?

I went back and forth on it for a couple of days. The screen was a tad disappointing, but the keyboard won me over. I can have a brand new machine with the classic keyboard. That's the first time I've been able to make that claim since early 2012.

Estimated ship date is 17 October. That's extremely disappointing. I was hoping to have it in my hands by this time next week, when I'll be back in NC for a few days.

The first order of business will be to cover up those atrocious webcams. Maybe some black cardstock? I'll also try a spare 16GB SODIMM to bump it to 32GB, and see if my OpenBSD installation runs on it.
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Re: So Who Actually Ordered?

#2 Post by MikalE » Sat Oct 07, 2017 3:34 pm

A small cut square of electrical tape works wonders for covering cameras. You can hardly tell it's there.
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Re: So Who Actually Ordered?

#3 Post by dr_st » Sat Oct 07, 2017 4:07 pm

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I like the sliding camera covers; previously mentioned them here:
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Re: So Who Actually Ordered?

#4 Post by jcvjcvjcvjcv » Sat Oct 07, 2017 4:13 pm

After I cut through all the marketing smoke, I just saw a regular no-good thin laptop with -U CPU with a surprisingly good keyboard, nothing else. So; no, I didn't order.
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Re: So Who Actually Ordered?

#5 Post by theterminator93 » Sat Oct 07, 2017 5:18 pm

I ordered one, and it arrived today. Typing this on it now, actually. I posted a short first impression in the super thread which I think is now buried. In any case I quoted myself here:
theterminator93 wrote:
Sat Oct 07, 2017 3:53 pm
Well, my TP25 arrived this afternoon, and I type this to you all here on it now.

I'm actually pleasantly surprised. The keyboard's feel is much more natural coming from *20 than any of the chiclet style keyboards (which I regularly encounter as part of my line of work). Build quality, so far, seems pretty good. Performance is good. And the screen is very nice as well; I find 14" FHD quite comfortable with no DPI scaling. I don't notice any flicker at all at any brightness level. Would I like it more if it was WUXGA? Sure, but this is perfectly fine.

There are a "few" status LEDs. There's a dedicated LED by the charging port (what shipped with the unit was the standard square tipped 65W AC adapter, not a Thunderbolt charger like some reviews indicated) to show you what the battery is doing. As efficient as the color coded/blinking LED of the prior generations? No, but I appreciate its presence nonetheless. And of course there's the green power/standby LED around the power button.

Key travel is slightly less than the *20 series keyboards for sure, but due to the key feedback and shape/layout, it's very natural coming straight from a *20 series keyboard. Do I have a preference to either, hmm... well, I think it's too early to say. But I can say there's much less adaptation than there is having to type on 6 row chiclet keyboards!

Time will tell how much this gets used. But for now, my biggest obstacle is Windows 10. I haven't used it much except when work requires, so I'm still new at it. I'm going to start out slow and do the stuff I don't care MS to know about on my other computers for now... ;)


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Re: So Who Actually Ordered?

#6 Post by jdk » Sat Oct 07, 2017 11:41 pm

Congrats on your purchase! Do you remember what the estimated ship date was? My date is ten days out.

I find it incredibly hard to believe that a machine which was planned for over two years, to be released in a very low, fixed quantity, and with no customization options at all, would take ten days to ship. To an address two counties away in North Carolina.
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Re: So Who Actually Ordered?

#7 Post by w0qj » Sun Oct 08, 2017 2:12 am

Hi theterminator93,

Are you usually using Windows 7?
*IF* by chance you try to install Win7 Pro onto TP25, please do let us know how it works out!

We also are (trying) to figure out if TP25 can run under Windows 7 Pro 64-bit, especially for the 7-row keyboard and USB-C port...
(We anticipate the fingerprint reader may not work under Win7 due to no Win7 driver; our own experience with X1 Carbon Generation 4 (made in 2nd half of 2016) used a new fingerprint [which looked just like the one in TP25] which had no Win7 support... but we don't use our fingerprint reader, so nothing lost!)

[Edit: Windows 7 does not support USB-C ports. Only Windows 10 and later OS's support USB-C ]
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Sat Oct 07, 2017 5:18 pm
I ordered one, and it arrived today. ...

Time will tell how much this gets used. But for now, my biggest obstacle is Windows 10. ...
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Re: So Who Actually Ordered?

#8 Post by theterminator93 » Sun Oct 08, 2017 6:41 am

jdk wrote:
Sat Oct 07, 2017 11:41 pm
Congrats on your purchase! Do you remember what the estimated ship date was? My date is ten days out.

I find it incredibly hard to believe that a machine which was planned for over two years, to be released in a very low, fixed quantity, and with no customization options at all, would take ten days to ship. To an address two counties away in North Carolina.
I placed my order at about 10:30 AM local time (same time zone as the warehouse it shipped from) and I got a shipping notice email that evening at about 9 PM. It was delivered two days later. The build date on the unit is 09/17.
w0qj wrote:
Sun Oct 08, 2017 2:12 am
Hi theterminator93,

Are you usually using Windows 7?
*IF* by chance you try to install Win7 Pro onto TP25, please do let us know how it works out!

We also are (trying) to figure out if TP25 can run under Windows 7 Pro 64-bit, especially for the 7-row keyboard and USB-C port...
(We anticipate the fingerprint reader may not work under Win7 due to no Win7 driver; our own experience with X1 Carbon Generation 4 (made in 2nd half of 2016) used a new fingerprint [which looked just like the one in TP25] which had no Win7 support... but we don't use our fingerprint reader, so nothing lost!)
theterminator93 wrote:
Sat Oct 07, 2017 5:18 pm
I ordered one, and it arrived today. ...

Time will tell how much this gets used. But for now, my biggest obstacle is Windows 10. ...
Well... It's a Kaby Lake CPU so there's no official support for Windows 7 on the hardware. :(

I was (well, and still am) much the same way; not a fan of 10. But the longer I march on in the IT environment the more I realize we can't keep 7 forever, and 10 won't be going away. So I at least need to know how to use it and feel comfortable with it from a professional standpoint. So on these grounds I'm almost forcing myself to use it since for now, I've got plenty of Windows 7 hardware running well and this machine to retreat to if I want.

There may be a way to hack it in, but for the time being I'm not certain I'm ready (or willing) to undertake the adventure. From what I can see at the moment there's no recovery partition or options on the unit. I should probably create a backup image of it today before I get too many more customizations of my own on it, in case I need to restore it later. There isn't much Lenovo software on it aside from the control center app and a special TP25 wallpaper, so it seems. Fortunately even if I did create an image of it now, the extras of my own additions would be simple things like runtimes, web browsers, media players etc...
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Re: So Who Actually Ordered?

#9 Post by w0qj » Sun Oct 08, 2017 7:46 am

Hi theterminator93,
OK, noted Kaby Lake CPU so no Win7 support (and almost definitely no Windows Update either).
As such, please do not try to install Win7 on your TP25 !
Kind regards,
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Sun Oct 08, 2017 6:41 am
...
Well... It's a Kaby Lake CPU so there's no official support for Windows 7 on the hardware. :(
...
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Re: So Who Actually Ordered?

#10 Post by MikalE » Sun Oct 08, 2017 8:33 am

I was on the Lenovo site last night looking at the P71, but I could not find the TP25 anywhere on the site and a search of the site turned up nothing.

Does someone have a link to the page at Lenovo with this system?
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Re: So Who Actually Ordered?

#11 Post by w0qj » Sun Oct 08, 2017 8:36 am

TP25 is listed under the T-Series ThinkPads.
Our region still did not offer TP25 for sale yet :(
MikalE wrote:
Sun Oct 08, 2017 8:33 am
I was on the Lenovo site last night looking at the P71, but I could not find the TP25 anywhere on the site and a search of the site turned up nothing.

Does someone have a link to the page at Lenovo with this system?
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Re: So Who Actually Ordered?

#12 Post by Ibthink » Sun Oct 08, 2017 9:20 am

MikalE wrote:
Sun Oct 08, 2017 8:33 am
Does someone have a link to the page at Lenovo with this system?
You can find it here: https://www3.lenovo.com/us/en/laptops/t ... hinkPad_25
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Re: So Who Actually Ordered?

#13 Post by MikalE » Sun Oct 08, 2017 10:15 am

Thanks.

I didn't realize it came with only the 14" screen. I'll hold out for the inevitable 15.6" version. I hope so anyway.
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Re: So Who Actually Ordered?

#14 Post by jdk » Mon Oct 09, 2017 9:19 am

I’ve canceled my order. My decision to purchase was largely influenced by the estimated 2-3 business day arrival time, which lined up perfectly with my next trip home. Ten days just to ship means that I won’t realistically see the laptop until early next year, based on my upcoming itinerary.

I still don’t understand how, with two years lead time, no customization options and a very limited run, that the full batch of 5,625 machines weren’t ready to slap a label on and ship immediately. This rollout reminds me of the botched BlackBerry KeyOne release from early summer.
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Re: So Who Actually Ordered?

#15 Post by chx1975 » Mon Oct 09, 2017 11:28 am

I ordered; I am not home; I won't see it until January; I still ordered. I am stoked! Especially by theterminator93's report of the keyboard!

Care to tell us whether it came with a WWAN card? Is it really single module 16GB? Finally, do you have a 45W charger at hand and could you try whether it keeps the lights on at least even if not charging the battery? Thanks!

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#16 Post by theterminator93 » Mon Oct 09, 2017 2:12 pm

I tried it with a 45W adapter that came with an E570 at one of my clients this morning, it ran fine when I booted it up. It had a full charge at the time though so I can't elaborate beyond that.

Based on what's in Device Manager, it has an Intel 8265 dual band AC card as well as NFC, but I don't see any WWAN devices listed.

It also appears that I have a 3 year warranty which came with it standard. Going to see if I can get the recovery media sent out (edit: 2 minutes in chat and a USB key is on its way!). I also created a CloneZilla image just in case, although I have already installed some programs. :)

It discharges the internal battery first. I would rather it discharge the removable battery first. Gonna need to look into seeing if I can control that... Battery life so far has been superb as well. I was working on some things in Photoshop last night for about 3 hours and ran it down to 75%.

The touchscreen finish matches what I'd expect from any other ThinkPad. If I didn't know beforehand it was a touchscreen, I would have never suspected. There's also a built in fn/ctrl key swap option in BIOS, as well as a sticky-fn-key option too.
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Re: So Who Actually Ordered?

#17 Post by dr_st » Mon Oct 09, 2017 2:40 pm

theterminator93 wrote:
Mon Oct 09, 2017 2:12 pm
It discharges the internal battery first.
Really? Are all Thinkpads with internal batteries like this? Seems stupid.
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#18 Post by theterminator93 » Mon Oct 09, 2017 2:42 pm

Yeah, I agree. I'll pay closer attention to what a T460 at one of my other sites does next time I work with one...
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Re: So Who Actually Ordered?

#19 Post by dr_st » Mon Oct 09, 2017 3:24 pm

I read about it a bit just now, and my understanding that it is not by design. The external should discharge first. However, some BIOS versions for some machines have a bug where the internal discharges first. Another however, it is said that it only discharges it down to 5% before switching to external, so you still have some juice to swap external batteries.

In any case, this is something that can and will be fixed with a BIOS update, once someone brings it to Lenovo's attention.
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Re: So Who Actually Ordered?

#20 Post by Puppy » Mon Oct 09, 2017 3:27 pm

dr_st wrote:
Mon Oct 09, 2017 3:24 pm
In any case, this is something that can and will be fixed with a BIOS update, once someone brings it to Lenovo's attention.
Still wondering whether there is any quality control? :roll: Such issues would be found during first week of usage.
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#21 Post by theterminator93 » Mon Oct 09, 2017 3:35 pm

Which is interesting, because I checked and found that there was a BIOS update available as soon as I unpacked it. Which has since been applied. Hmm. :?
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Re: So Who Actually Ordered?

#22 Post by Olangu » Tue Oct 10, 2017 6:24 am

theterminator93 wrote:
Sat Oct 07, 2017 5:18 pm
I ordered one, and it arrived today. Typing this on it now, actually. I posted a short first impression in the super thread which I think is now buried. In any case I quoted myself here:
theterminator93 wrote:
Sat Oct 07, 2017 3:53 pm
Well, my TP25 arrived this afternoon, and I type this to you all here on it now.

I'm actually pleasantly surprised. The keyboard's feel is much more natural coming from *20 than any of the chiclet style keyboards (which I regularly encounter as part of my line of work). Build quality, so far, seems pretty good. Performance is good. And the screen is very nice as well; I find 14" FHD quite comfortable with no DPI scaling. I don't notice any flicker at all at any brightness level. Would I like it more if it was WUXGA? Sure, but this is perfectly fine.

There are a "few" status LEDs. There's a dedicated LED by the charging port (what shipped with the unit was the standard square tipped 65W AC adapter, not a Thunderbolt charger like some reviews indicated) to show you what the battery is doing. As efficient as the color coded/blinking LED of the prior generations? No, but I appreciate its presence nonetheless. And of course there's the green power/standby LED around the power button.

Key travel is slightly less than the *20 series keyboards for sure, but due to the key feedback and shape/layout, it's very natural coming straight from a *20 series keyboard. Do I have a preference to either, hmm... well, I think it's too early to say. But I can say there's much less adaptation than there is having to type on 6 row chiclet keyboards!

Time will tell how much this gets used. But for now, my biggest obstacle is Windows 10. I haven't used it much except when work requires, so I'm still new at it. I'm going to start out slow and do the stuff I don't care MS to know about on my other computers for now... ;)


A lot of folks slam it for having a low power CPU. But it's about 30% more powerful than the i7-2640m in my T420 and X220s, and the GPU is on par with the Quadro 2000m in the W520. So I'm perfectly content with the performance.
I ordered one of the 8 that arrived in the Nordic.
Not what I wanted exactly, but finally a chance to get a modern laptop with a real keyboard.
(Would have loved a real screen (wqhd+ and preferably 3:2), and connectors on the backside)

I got a bad feeling when you wrote that it would be the same performance as a t420 (as I'm replacing my t430s-classic-keyboard-mod) so I did some googling:
CPU 20% faster overall,
10-15% faster integer speed,
30% faster floating point.
at 15W instead of 35!
Which gives a 20% increase of speed at less than half the power draw.

Source:
http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/In ... 71274vsm50

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161% faster

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Re: So Who Actually Ordered?

#23 Post by RealBlackStuff » Tue Oct 10, 2017 12:08 pm

And.... they seem to be sold out (or at least out of stock in US and CA).
Still took 'em 4 days to sell a measly 5000!

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Re: So Who Actually Ordered?

#24 Post by cacophony » Wed Oct 11, 2017 1:40 am

RealBlackStuff wrote:
Tue Oct 10, 2017 12:08 pm
And.... they seem to be sold out (or at least out of stock in US and CA).
Still took 'em 4 days to sell a measly 5000!
I'm still able to add it to the cart and I'm in the US.
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Re: So Who Actually Ordered?

#25 Post by chx1975 » Wed Oct 11, 2017 3:27 am

It did run out yesterday at first you could get to the cart and complained there later you couldn't even get to the cart https://photos.app.goo.gl/ASH7muddxiK5op892

Today it's back because they cancelled a ton of discount orders , reddit is full of it and yes , mine as well. I reordered real darn quick at full price but https://www.reddit.com/r/thinkpad/comme ... t_ack_for/ says they cancelled their second order. I will call lenovo in 4.5 hours when they reopen for a real friendly chat. While some might have used the IBM EPP portal in Canada with the not-at-all-secret password without having a right to it, I have a relative who is working at IBM and he is not a janitor but a Distinguished Engineer, FFS.

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Re: So Who Actually Ordered?

#26 Post by Olangu » Wed Oct 11, 2017 11:40 am

Some real numbers on the speed of the machine:

t430s NVS 5200M:
Superposition Benchmark
Score: 1349
http://i65.tinypic.com/2w5p0l0.jpg

TP25 940MX:
Superposition Benchmark
Score: 3893
http://i66.tinypic.com/2u9ub09.jpg

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Re: So Who Actually Ordered?

#27 Post by frankparisi » Wed Oct 11, 2017 1:29 pm

I just tried to order one. i contacted sales chat
"Would you like me to order you with a discount?"
I say, how much discount.
Gets back to me and says "they are sold out, give me your email address, I will let you know when there are more"
CLICK
W530 i7-3920XM, Sandisk Extreme SSD 240GB, K2000M, 32GB RAM (1866GHz), FP, Win7.
T520 i7-2860, nVidia 4200, SSD 160GB, 8GB RAM, FP, Win 7
T520 i5-2520, nVidia 4200, SSD 16GB/ 7200 1TB, 8GB RAM, FP, Win 7
Retired PCs. T22, T30, T40, T41, T42, T43P, T60 Flex, T61P, T500, T510 x2

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Re: So Who Actually Ordered?

#28 Post by Thinkpad4by3 » Wed Oct 11, 2017 2:48 pm

Olangu wrote:
Wed Oct 11, 2017 11:40 am
Some real numbers on the speed of the machine:

t430s NVS 5200M:
Superposition Benchmark
Score: 1349
http://i65.tinypic.com/2w5p0l0.jpg

TP25 940MX:
Superposition Benchmark
Score: 3893
http://i66.tinypic.com/2u9ub09.jpg
How does the W530 maxed out do?
Probably should be Thinkpad16by10.

Looking For: 386 laptop, IBM or not.

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Re: So Who Actually Ordered?

#29 Post by Pokrzept » Thu Oct 12, 2017 12:47 am

Thinkpad4by3 wrote:
Wed Oct 11, 2017 2:48 pm
Olangu wrote:
Wed Oct 11, 2017 11:40 am
Some real numbers on the speed of the machine:
[...]
How does the W530 maxed out do?
Are you aware of fact that Superposition benchmark mentioned by Olangu was created to analyze video cards performance not the overall computing power? Since when do we use office computers as an gaming rigs? :roll:
Extreme performance and stability test for PC hardware: video card, power supply, cooling system. Check your rig in stock and overclocking modes with real-life load! Also includes interactive experience in a beautiful, detailed environment.
P70 / W530 / W700 and 30 more :roll:

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Re: So Who Actually Ordered?

#30 Post by Olangu » Thu Oct 12, 2017 3:42 am

Pokrzept wrote:
Thu Oct 12, 2017 12:47 am
Thinkpad4by3 wrote:
Wed Oct 11, 2017 2:48 pm

How does the W530 maxed out do?
Are you aware of fact that Superposition benchmark mentioned by Olangu was created to analyze video cards performance not the overall computing power? Since when do we use office computers as an gaming rigs? :roll:
Extreme performance and stability test for PC hardware: video card, power supply, cooling system. Check your rig in stock and overclocking modes with real-life load! Also includes interactive experience in a beautiful, detailed environment.
It's quite safe to say that the values I posted earlier hold up pretty well.
So it's a 15-30% increase in computing power (CPU)
and a 161% increase in the performance of the GPU.

The additional performance increase is from faster ssd and ram.

The message I'm trying to pass on is that the TP25 is faster in every aspect compared to the xx20 (or modded xx30) computers most of us is using. Sure it set me back $3k to get it with a docking station. But I have the money to signal to Lenovo that we need computers with useful keyboards.

That said, If I could get a wqhd mod for my t430s I would probably stick with it...

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